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Offline ClarkKent

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The Truth about Consensus :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J8WjHXRhjE

2016 Independent & Third Party, on the Ballot, Candidate Interviews : These candidates specifically are the ONLY third option in their area/district
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL78V4UeNt1IM4MJWuy8YCfOlMQWfH_Iv0

I believe if a candidate has gathered enough signatures to be on the ballot and has a statistical chance to win then a responsible media will include them in the debates and interview them, to educate and inform the public of their options.

Imagine if, We the People, elected even one independent or third party representative to Congress – in each of the 50 states. If that goal is seen as a national movement, perhaps it might make it easier for independent and third party candidates – they could ~ ride the wave.

There are 435 members in the US House of Representatives, elected every 2 years – it was designed that way on purpose, to be the least resistant, most peaceful and quickest path to reform, in our democratically elected Republic.

Talking with people regarding Congress is a lot less divisive then Presidential politics.

There are about 324 million people in the USA.

There are about 219 million people eligible to vote and about 146 million registered to vote.

42% are independent
29% are Democrats
26% are Republicans
<1% are special interests
Who has the most influence do you think?

If there were 10 issues important to you, and 5 issues had popular consensus and 5 didn't, which 5 would you prioritize first?

I advocate uniting and winning, instead of being divided & conquered.

There will be plenty of time to argue on things that we disagree about AFTER we pass legislation regarding important things we agree upon :

1. Accountability & Transparency reforms, freedom of information, integrity safeguards, auditing our government.

2. Civil Liberties, NSA privacy & spying, preserving the Bill of Rights, due process.

3. Corporate Cronyism, Lobbyists, no bid contracts, bailouts, the revolving door.

4. Military Spending, mission creep, regime change foreign policy, Congressional approval & oversight.

5. Ending the Drug War, reform the justice system, asset forfeiture, demilitarization of police, private prisons, mandatory minimums, quotas, racial profiling, industrial hemp.

6. Election reform, open primaries, Election Day holiday, fair debates, rank or score voting, none of the above option, paper trail.

7. Fair and Free Trade.

8. Promoting an environment of growth and opportunity, less regulation and more competition for small and mid-sized businesses.

Does competition matter?

The fundamental question is Not : whether one should vote for independent or 3rd party candidates - Rather : WHY? DO REPUBLICANS & DEMOCRATS REPRESS EQUAL COMPETITION IN DEBATES AND ELECTIONS? Who are they disallowing? (ask yourself this) because if they do that to Them - they ARE doing it to You and to all of Us - we ARE the independents and 3rd party's; as more people realize this (and the consequences thereof) there will be more questions, options, relevant information and choices.

Is WHAT matters - HOW the game is played?

. . . If 50 independent and third party candidates are elected to the House of Representatives that would shatter the status quo & the “in the box” paradigm, it will open the flood gates to positive change – and it is the easiest most peaceful way to do it. We might start with 10 this year then build to 25 in 2 years and so on however let us deserve with our efforts to have 50+

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Re: Would you like to see a brand new Congress USA - i.e. elect them all out!
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2016, 06:28:29 AM »
Without actual national term limits (Which will never happen, since it would take a Constitutional amendment, which would have to start in Congress) it's a terrible idea.  As ineffective as the GOP Senate has been, that's basically due to not being able to get the 60 votes necessary to move legislation forward in the Senate; when they were the minority party, none of their bills could even get to the floor though they could block the worst of the Dem bills if they could all unite, which seems to be a lot less of a problem for the Democrats.

To the extent it works, the 'Cleaning house' meme generally results in the most senior (And, therefore, most powerful) Senators staying in place, and the ones that are still junior (And lacking power) to be kicked.  This tends to work to the disadvantage of whichever party holds the majority, since the vast majority of their candidates are the incumbents.  The time to change that is in the primaries, only a complete idiot would think you can get a re-do of the primaries in the general election.   
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Re: Would you like to see a brand new Congress USA - i.e. elect them all out!
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 07:09:55 AM »
I stopped at the second paragraph:

I believe if a candidate has gathered enough signatures to be on the ballot and has a statistical chance to win then a responsible media will include them in the debates and interview them, to educate and inform the public of their options.

This is a false assumption.

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