Author Topic: I'm sorry, but I do not feel good about this debate. Randysf  (Read 5322 times)

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Re: I'm sorry, but I do not feel good about this debate. Randysf
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2016, 03:04:09 PM »
I haven't watch a Presidential debate since RWR or GHWB were POTUS. Between wishing "my guy" had responded "better", disliking "the other guy's" "BS", and wanting to take a cattle prod to most "Moderators", it's not good for my patience or BP. So take what follows with the block of salt whose size you think appropriate.

From what I understand, The SHREW didn't collapse. roll her eyes independently of each other, or leave a puddle on the platform. OTOH, Trump didn't respond like a raving maniac or collapse in despair - as DU-folk thought, or at least wished he would - in response to The SHREW's baiting or the "Moderator's" prodding, interrupting, and "fact-checking". It sounds as though both did well enough for their respective partisans to claim victory.

Looking forward, I think Trump will learn more from this debate than will/can The SHREW. She's more experienced, and has developed habitual tactics and responses. She'll adjust less. Trump has shown he can and does learn, and I think he'll adjust more, very possibly for the better.

In what way do debates matter? Frankly, not much here or on DU - places where members have largely made up their minds. Where it does matter is in the candidates defining themselves for undecideds and those barely on one or the other side of the fence. To the degree many of such have been influenced toward Trump by recent events and revelations, I don't think The SHREW did well enough to reverse the Trump-ward inclination.

I have a similar approach so perhaps my judgment is suspect too, but it's not worth my time to waste it on the charade.  There are so few and so late I doubt they have much effect on things this time unless one candidate completely melts down. 

The thing is this time, Hitlery needs to nuke him out of existence to reverse the trend, which has brought him up to even or better with her since August, making up a huge amount of ground.

She'll be so propped up with drugs and coaching that it brings Pink from 'The Wall' to mind, the haunting strains of 'Comfortably Numb' hanging in the air...
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Re: I'm sorry, but I do not feel good about this debate. Randysf
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2016, 03:32:23 PM »
It all does not matter,Trump has not lost any ground.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

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Re: I'm sorry, but I do not feel good about this debate. Randysf
« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2016, 03:39:09 PM »
It all does not matter,Trump has not lost any ground.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

Just IMHO, anything in these debates that comes out near a draw will not hurt Trump (Though it may drive a lot of folks crazy), if anything it'll just convince some people not to vote at all or go for the Libertarians, Greens, or other splinter parties...and I expect most of that disenchantment to work out more in Trump's favor than Hitlery's.
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Re: I'm sorry, but I do not feel good about this debate. Randysf
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2016, 05:30:00 PM »
Just IMHO, anything in these debates that comes out near a draw will not hurt Trump (Though it may drive a lot of folks crazy), if anything it'll just convince some people not to vote at all or go for the Libertarians, Greens, or other splinter parties...and I expect most of that disenchantment to work out more in Trump's favor than Hitlery's.

Exactly and not just cheer leading but from decades of watching these things and the public reactions to them.

As soon as Holt served up the first question as a Obozo PR release the public knew what was happening.

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Re: I'm sorry, but I do not feel good about this debate. Randysf
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2016, 06:36:44 PM »
IIRC, Cooper got quite a whupping by The SHREW's partisans, both in and outside of the MSM. I'd expect him to be clearly but not outlandishly partisan.

As for Raddatz, from http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2016/09/26/mrcs-notable-quotables-media-should-give-hillary-total-free-pass:

She's in The SHREW's tank.

Thing is, Cooper and Raddatz being so clearly partisan could be an opportunity for Trump to needle them into being more blatant than they might be if they were calm. But all he really needs to do is call them out if they make their bias clear.

I think if they do go the full in the tank for Hillary mode, Trump should stop and ask them to get themselves a podium like any other debate participant, so as to prevent the audience from being confused.
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Re: I'm sorry, but I do not feel good about this debate. Randysf
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2016, 08:05:12 PM »
Exactly and not just cheer leading but from decades of watching these things and the public reactions to them.

As soon as Holt served up the first question as a Obozo PR release the public knew what was happening.

Of course. There were two goals..

1 ) Serve up softballs to Clinton, to make her look awesome.
2 ) Piss off Trump so he will react poorly, making the 'Trumplosion' the only thing on the news.

The first was partially successful. The second pretty much failed.

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