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hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« on: September 26, 2016, 11:26:32 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028186358

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TheMastersNemesis (5,818 posts)   Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:09 AM

Internet Access Already Being Tiered At Hotels & Institutions Based On Wealth.
 
I am right now at a resort time share and have stayed at a few higher and lower end hotels. It you are on basic Wi Fi it is slow and bulky. THEY WILL OFFER YOU HIGH SPEED INTERNET FOR $10 per day. So we are already seeing an under the radar move to make internet access based on what you can pay.

You can access the basic server in places of stay or you can upgrade to the cadillac model for a fee. So if you stay 5 days in a hotel you can spend $50 if you want to use your computer on their Wi Fi.

The internet companies want to charge by the hour or amount of data. So if you are NOT rich then you are likely to be shut our of information networks in the future.

We know that the internet is the final political equalizer now that the other media has been totally destroyed.

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Dreamer Tatum (10,409 posts)    Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:41 PM

11. So...$500 a night isn't the issue...$10 internet is?
 
Wow.

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Bonx (1,167 posts)      Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:26 AM

4. You can get a bigger room for more $$ too.

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EL34x4 (1,182 posts)      Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:35 AM

6. Clearly, discrimination against the obese.

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EL34x4 (1,182 posts)      Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:35 AM

5. Good grief! Seriously? This is an issue?
 
Yes, all those poor people staying at high-end hotels are being denied the final political equalizer because of higher charges for high speed internet.

Um, Comcast also charges a higher price for faster internet. And Cadillacs cost more than Chevrolets.

WHEN WILL THIS INJUSTICE END!!!!!

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WestCoastLib (430 posts)    Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:46 AM

7. You have always been able to pay more for faster internet.
 
This isn't an under the radar move to make internet access pay for speed. This has been the case since the very first (I guess technically second) commercial modems decades ago.

Whether via modem, or ISP, you have always been able to pay more money or faster connections.

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linuxman (1,939 posts)      Sun Sep 25, 2016, 02:38 PM

9. "Better services cost consumers more money"
 
More at 11, Diane. 

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Dreamer Tatum (10,409 posts)      Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:40 PM

10. Good God man.
 
They make me pay more for Macallan 18 than JB. The OUTRAGE.

Seriously: you're on vacation and you think it's unusual to pay more to get more? Really?

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oberliner (39,950 posts)      Sun Sep 25, 2016, 03:46 PM

12. You also have to pay more for a steak dinner than you do for a hamburger
 
That's sort of the way things work. 

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Adrahil (8,410 posts)     Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:53 PM

25. It's been that way for a long time at hotels....
 
And this kind of thing is not new... the quality of the room you get is based on what you can pay. The quality of the car you drive, the house you live in, the clothes you wear.... all are dependent on what you can pay. 

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JDC (20 posts)    Mon Sep 26, 2016, 05:55 AM

34. I travel extensively for work
 
As a "perk" for my hotel brand loyalty, I get bumped up on the internet speed for free. To my knowledge, I haven't received my membership card to the fat cat's club yet.

I kind of feel that this is not really a prime example of the oppression suggested. 

<<<wonders why ol' Bob never hangs around; he just comes in, shoots off his mouth, and turns tail and runs away, never sticking around to engage with his audience.
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2016, 12:04:19 PM »
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Yes, all those poor people staying at high-end hotels are being denied the final political equalizer
:lmao: :rotf:

Banzin is such a DUmbass. 
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2016, 12:21:04 PM »
When I first started using the internet at home back in the early to mid 1990s access rates were hourly. I paid $20 an hour. I generally logged in long enough to pull back email (didn't read it online) or to retrieve Archie search results. You had to plan all your actions so you could login, collect stuff you were expecting (no graphics, took to long to download) and send all your email replies. Only connected once every day or two.
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2016, 12:44:08 PM »
There are a few of the gimmedat crowd though.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028186358

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Sun Sep 25, 2016, 06:11 PM

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18. Paying for access is not the same as paying for traffic priority.

If the hotel is charging you money so that YOU can get Netflix streaming ahead of the guy that uses the basic free access then that is an issue. That's the pay-for-priority traffic that people should be loud in opposing. All internet traffic should be treated equal.

If you're just complaining about paying for more speed then sorry pal, it's been like that for a long time.

Never been in business I see.

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Sun Sep 25, 2016, 06:36 PM

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19. Hotel internet access is total bullshit.

When I travel anything I can't do on my phone I just don't do. It really sucks for business travelers and small businesses. I can imagine that they get hosed on this bullshit all the time.

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Sun Sep 25, 2016, 09:31 PM

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22. I hear you.

My problem with internet access at hotels is that they don't tell you it's tiered ahead of time. They just say they have wifi access and then when you check in you find out that you have to pay for anything other than the slowest speed. Sure they didn't lie but it's misleading.

On a side note, I use to like staying in the higher end hotels like the Hilton and the Marriott but now I think they're a total ripoff. I stayed at the Hilton right next to Universal Studios in Burbank earlier this year and they charged an arm and a leg for breakfast and no free wifi either; and the room was like $278 a night. Crazy. I should have stayed at a cheaper place and use that money for other things.

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Mon Sep 26, 2016, 01:06 AM

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32. I can imagine the cost for the hotel to provide some of these services are

already factored in the room rate whether the customer knows it or not. So in essence you're getting double ****ed, especially if resort fees are tacked on already. Hey maybe you'll have to pay for ice soon enough. Check out all the people bringing ice chests into Vegas casinos because they've removed the refrigerators from the rooms, which you can rent.

Sorry for some of the responses from a few a-holes here. Make a lol-cat thread here though and it will be the big hit of the day.

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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2016, 12:48:43 PM »


He needs some ice for all that burn  :lmao:
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2016, 01:08:37 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on September 26, 2016, 11:31:05 AM
Try a different link, frank.

Ooops, sorry; now corrected, although Carl had already done so.

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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2016, 01:11:01 PM »
Yes, Bob--Even The Other ****ing Primitives On Skinner's Island Of Misfit Idiots Are Tiring Of Your Schtick.

There! :whistling:
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2016, 01:35:41 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on September 26, 2016, 01:11:01 PM
Yes, Bob--Even The Other ****ing Primitives On Skinner's Island Of Misfit Idiots Are Tiring Of Your Schtick.

There! :whistling:

He just can`t get many to follow in his footstep.
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2016, 01:37:44 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on September 26, 2016, 11:26:32 AM


<<<wonders why ol' Bob never hangs around; he just comes in, shoots off his mouth, and turns tail and runs away, never sticking around to engage with his audience.
It seems to me that it is Bob's own version of the daily "2 Minutes of Hate", only he does it 3 to 5 times a day.
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2016, 02:44:22 PM »
Internet access and speed have been pay-as-you-go here in the US since it was made accessible to the general public. Want a 56KB modem instead of 14.4KB? Buy the higher priced computer. Want DSL instead of dial-up? Buy the right computer and pay for the high-end service. Etc., etc., etc.! Internet access at a particular speed is not a constitutional right.

Hotels have offered different levels of service since, well, hotels existed. And the basis has always been how much the customer pays. Why would Internet access and speed be an exception? So TMN's issue-scandal is utterly phony. That said, how fast does one's Internet speed need to be? Unless some one wants to stream movies - of whatever rating - or play some multi-player game, super high speed really doesn't matter. And if some "rich" person pays extra for super high speed that (s)he doesn't really need, why should TMN care? Would TMN rather that $$ be donated to the Trump campaign?
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2016, 02:46:51 PM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on September 26, 2016, 01:37:44 PM
It seems to me that it is Bob's own version of the daily "2 Minutes of Hate", only he does it 3 to 5 times a day.

He keeps self-deleting, so he "needs" to post new rants regularly. I wonder when this post will get the self-deletion treatment (or has it already).
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2016, 05:15:30 PM »
Time share, more proof that the DUchebag is not very smart.
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2016, 05:50:37 PM »
Quote from: Carl on September 26, 2016, 01:35:41 PM
He just can`t get many to follow in his footstep.

I (finally) see what you did there!  H5!
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2016, 08:52:47 PM »


Lulz, TMN. Lulz.

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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2016, 10:03:36 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on September 26, 2016, 02:44:22 PM
Internet access and speed have been pay-as-you-go here in the US since it was made accessible to the general public. Want a 56KB modem instead of 14.4KB? Buy the higher priced computer. Want DSL instead of dial-up? Buy the right computer and pay for the high-end service. Etc., etc., etc.! Internet access at a particular speed is not a constitutional right.

Hotels have offered different levels of service since, well, hotels existed. And the basis has always been how much the customer pays. Why would Internet access and speed be an exception? So TMN's issue-scandal is utterly phony. That said, how fast does one's Internet speed need to be? Unless some one wants to stream movies - of whatever rating - or play some multi-player game, super high speed really doesn't matter. And if some "rich" person pays extra for super high speed that (s)he doesn't really need, why should TMN care? Would TMN rather that $$ be donated to the Trump campaign?

Internet costs money? Hell, I have 150MB internet at home, unlimited data on my cell phone with a tethering option and work pays for all of it. Too bad I can't talk to Bitchin-Bob and rub it in, maybe I could trigger an aneurysm rupture
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2016, 11:08:23 AM »
Bob should just kill himself. 

Hmmm I wonder if his shoelace is long enough?  :lmao:
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2016, 11:17:27 AM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on September 28, 2016, 11:08:23 AM
Bob should just kill himself. 

Hmmm I wonder if his shoelace is long enough?  :lmao:

He does get a spare in every pack.
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2016, 11:52:18 AM »
Don't think I would take a financial rant too seriously from somebody that thinks a timeshare is a quality investment.

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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2016, 12:26:32 PM »
Quote from: miskie on September 27, 2016, 08:52:47 PM


Lulz, TMN. Lulz.




Haha! Sitting here wearing my top hat and monocle and thinking, Isn't cable great? Pip Pip, Tallyho!
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Re: hypertensive Bob all upset, bent out of shape; doesn't get much primitive love
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2016, 01:00:10 PM »


Well, it's not anywhere near the head of the pack, but I'm happy.
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