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Misogynist dog whistle?Is it just me, or is Trump sounding a dog whistle for misogynists today? In his speech in Cleveland Heights today, he takes on the female police officer who murdered Terence Crutcher. From the CNN website http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/21/politics/trump-police-shooting-response/, he said:QuoteTrump began his response by praising police and noting he has been endorsed by several law enforcement groups, but added that "you always have problems.""You have somebody in there that always makes a mistake, that's bad or that chokes," Trump said, using a term he often uses to describe somebody who falters under pressure.Trump did not address Tuesday's shooting in Charlotte of Keith Lamont Scott, who police say was armed at the time he was fatally shot, but the Republican nominee did describe the video of the shooting of Terence Crutcher in Tulsa. Crutcher was unarmed when he was shot by a police officer."I must tell you, I watched the shooting in particular in Tulsa and that man was hands up, that man went to the car -- hands up -- put his hand on the car. To me, it looked like he did everything you're supposed to do," Trump said. "And he looked like a really good man -- and maybe I'm a little clouded because I saw his family talking about him after the fact ... but he looked like somebody who was doing what they were asking him to do.""This young officer, I don't know what she was thinking. I don't know what she was thinking, but I'm very, very troubled by that and we have to be very careful," Trump said, referring to the officer who fatally shot Crutcher. The officer, Betty Shelby, is 42 years old.Trump questioned whether Shelby got "scared" or if she was "choking.""Did she get scared? Was she choking? What happened? But people that choke, maybe they can't be doing what they're doing," he said."Scared"? "Choking"? "But people that choke, maybe they can't be doing what they're doing"? Isn't that exactly the language that he uses to describe Hillary Clinton?I've sent a note off to the Rachel Maddow Show, to see if they will look into this. To the best of my knowledge, Trump has never put down a police officer involved in the death of a black man or woman. But, to the best of my knowledge, this is the first case in the last year or so where the sole shooter was a policewoman, not a policeman.Am I right, or am I right?
Trump began his response by praising police and noting he has been endorsed by several law enforcement groups, but added that "you always have problems.""You have somebody in there that always makes a mistake, that's bad or that chokes," Trump said, using a term he often uses to describe somebody who falters under pressure.Trump did not address Tuesday's shooting in Charlotte of Keith Lamont Scott, who police say was armed at the time he was fatally shot, but the Republican nominee did describe the video of the shooting of Terence Crutcher in Tulsa. Crutcher was unarmed when he was shot by a police officer."I must tell you, I watched the shooting in particular in Tulsa and that man was hands up, that man went to the car -- hands up -- put his hand on the car. To me, it looked like he did everything you're supposed to do," Trump said. "And he looked like a really good man -- and maybe I'm a little clouded because I saw his family talking about him after the fact ... but he looked like somebody who was doing what they were asking him to do.""This young officer, I don't know what she was thinking. I don't know what she was thinking, but I'm very, very troubled by that and we have to be very careful," Trump said, referring to the officer who fatally shot Crutcher. The officer, Betty Shelby, is 42 years old.Trump questioned whether Shelby got "scared" or if she was "choking.""Did she get scared? Was she choking? What happened? But people that choke, maybe they can't be doing what they're doing," he said.
Response to Staph (Original post)Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:33 PMMatrosov (1,018 posts)2. Crutcher didn't deserve to be executedDoesn't matter if the executioner was a he or a she.It's a strange stance for the Mango Messiah but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Response to Matrosov (Reply #2)Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:45 PMStar Member kcr (9,906 posts)5. But if he's only decrying this cop because she's a woman, it's okay to point out that reasonI thought it was strange that he was calling out this police officer. Now that I hear she was a woman, it makes sense. It isn't defending her actions to say so.
Response to Staph (Original post)Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:34 PMdemigoddess (3,479 posts)3. he's trying to look even-handed by throwing the female officer under the bus.if it were a male, they would all be defending him, but females are expendable.
Response to Staph (Original post)Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:38 PMStar Member Control-Z (10,848 posts)4. The very second it came out of hisugly ass piehole I thought it. He would never stand up for a black shooting victim - especially when a cop was the shooter. Except, of course, if the cop happened to be a woman. I've always wondered who he had more disdain for. African American men, or women in general. Now we know. My heart breaks for AA women, or any woman of color, really. Gawd, what a filthy, twisted, animal he is.ETA: I'm not defending the female cop. Just pointing out how utterly horrifying Trump is.
Response to Staph (Original post)Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:48 PMStar Member meow2u3 (19,517 posts)6. He never called out a male cop who killed a black guy in cold bloodSo this is a misogynist dog whistle.Donnie, we weren't born yesterday!
Response to Staph (Original post)Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:16 PMStar Member GoCubsGo (16,064 posts)8. Yep.I doubt he would have even broached the subject had that cop not been a woman.
Don't ya just love it ?A Republican take a position that they would take any other day of the week, but because the Republican took that position, they use their liberal voodoo powers to read his mind and ascribe an alternate motive to it.
I've sent a note off to the Rachel Maddow Show, to see if they will look into this.
1.) I've sent a note off to the Rachel Maddow Show, to see if they will look into this. To the best of my knowledge, Trump has never put down a police officer involved in the death of a black man or woman. But, to the best of my knowledge, this is the first case in the last year or so where the sole shooter was 2.) a policewoman, not a policeman.
Staph (3,300 posts)Misogynist dog whistle?this is the first case in the last year or so where the sole shooter was a policewoman, not a policeman.
Progs condemning the Tulsa shooting by a female police officer = Good.Trump condemning the Tulsa shooting by a female police officer = Misogyny.BTW, video from a police helicopter (embedded in the linked article) shows that the man who was killed was disobeying police officers' instructions, and that in the seconds before the shooting, one or both of his hands were NOT up.The murder of a thug (white, black, or pea-green) is a murder, but it looks like Crutcher was quite a thug. His convictions include three for resisting or obstructing an officer (once is stupidity, three times is a pattern of behavior). And guess what was found in his car ...
Well now that'll really shake things up! I'm sure they'll get right on it.
The DUmmies used to furiously say "send this to Olbermann!!!!!". Yeah, I imagine both he & Maddow both laugh at the silliness of the DUmp.
