Hillary's first move: Seize the MSM...

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TheMastersNemesis (5,774 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028159830

Hillary's First Move - Break Up The MSM And Enforce Anti Trust Act.


If we don't break up the media the hate against hlllary will be be worse than it has been under Obama. The media is now a national security risk.

move against the first amendment then the second....

FBaggins (15,574 posts)
1. That sounds like a clear 1A violation

"I don't like what I think you're going to say, so I'm putting you out of business" ?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_LSPLguAtM[/youtube]

 

Star Member still_one (45,662 posts)
7. The media needs to be broken up, but not because of the hate against Hillary, but because

the mass media mergers have essentially created a monopoly, where a few corporate media outlets control the flow of news and information, especially since there is no equal time requirement or fairness doctrine

Star Member still_one (45,662 posts)
12. 90% of the talk radio airwaves are filled with the conservative view point. Titans such as clear

channel set the agenda, which doesn't always match the demographic they serve. A perfect example is the San Francisco Bay area. There used to be a good variety of voices from all view points heard. That is now predominately filled with a conservative agenda. The cumulus broadcasting takeover of KGO was the final straw.

Yes on a national level there can be found sources that present progressive voices, but those are extremely small fish.

As far as broadcast media in general, such as local channels, yes they present a more neutral voice, but most have very little national coverage.

As for CBS, ABC, and NBC they are owned by huge corporations that influence the agenda. While most realize the blatant distortions of Fox News, some may not be aware of the Sinclair Broadcasting Group which announced plans to FORCE its affiliate stations to preempt regularly scheduled programming and air the anti-Kerry documentary, "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal", just days before the election involving many critical swing states such as Ohio, Florida, Iowa and Wisconsin.

http://www.alternet.org/story/20208/sinclair's_shame

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Honor

The WMDs which were propagated by 95% of the media, and provided public support for the invasion of Iraq based on a lie, is another

Star Member Nye Bevan (25,273 posts)
15. In 5 minutes on my phone I can go to the Guardian online, LBN on DU, the BBC,

the Economist, and MSNBC. And yet somehow there is a media "monopoly" that urgently needs to be broken up? Ridiculous.

[Big Dog]

Star Member still_one (45,662 posts)
7. The media needs to be broken up, but not because of the hate against Hillary, but because

the mass media mergers have essentially created a monopoly, where a few corporate media outlets control the flow of news and information, especially since there is no equal time requirement or fairness doctrine

"Monopoly". It doesn't mean what you think it does, DUmbass.

Star Member Nye Bevan (25,273 posts)
15. In 5 minutes on my phone I can go to the Guardian online, LBN on DU, the BBC,

the Economist, and MSNBC. And yet somehow there is a media "monopoly" that urgently needs to be broken up? Ridiculous.

Get some, Nye Bevan!

[Carl]

Bob sure is dancing around with calling for a dictatorship.

[miskie]

Do you know why there is so much more conservative radio than liberal ?

Because that's where the money is.

If liberals actually put their money where their mouth are, the big media players would swing leftward. But you cheap bastards don't. Collectively, you are only interested in spending other people's money. Therefor advertises make nothing hocking their wares on liberal networks. The networks don't make enough cash to survive. Therefore they either change formats, or die.

Its as simple as that.

But have no fear - You'll always have PBS. Why ? Big daddy government foots most of the bills. --Meaning the taxpayers, of course. Exactly how you mooches like it.

[franksolich]

Ol' Bob's getting so worked up about things perhaps his wife needs to have those big burly guys carrying that closed-sleeve jacket on call.  I'll bet they're needed soon.

[FunkyZero]

Star Member still_one (45,662 posts)
12. 90% of the talk radio airwaves are filled with the conservative view point. Titans such as clear

channel set the agenda, which doesn't always match the demographic they serve.

Funny thing about that "agenda setting"...   it only matters if you are unable or unwilling to engage your own God given brain cells and think independently. What your typical liberal fails or refuses to recognize is that media is meant only to stimulate thought, not indoctrinate.
Don't just consume media that you agree with, listen to it all. Of course this requires critical thinking so it may be somewhat painful to your average liberal.
Control... be it guns, e-cigs, seat belts or soda's larger than 16oz; the liberal mind is about control and attempting to legislate human behavior, a technique that has ultimately failed every time it has been attempted.

[SVPete]

TheMastersNemesis (5,774 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028159830

Hillary's First Move - Break Up The MSM And Enforce Anti Trust Act.


If we don't break up the media the hate against hlllary will be be worse than it has been under Obama. The media is now a national security risk.

Star Member still_one (45,662 posts)
7. The media needs to be broken up, but not because of the hate against Hillary, but because

the mass media mergers have essentially created a monopoly, where a few corporate media outlets control the flow of news and information, especially since there is no equal time requirement or fairness doctrine

Even just broadcasting/cable/satellite is nowhere close to a monopoly, or even an oligopoly, even if you ignore outlets like Food Channel, HGTV, etc., whose focus is outside of news/opinion. There are ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, and NBC, just off the top of my head, and I don't know how many second-tier outlets like Salem Entertainment (who has divisions for religion, news/commentary, and business). These all own stations, create content, and provide content to stations owned by outfits like Cumulus.

Cumulus is just one of many companies that own/operate groups of stations, either regionally or nationally. And then there's syndicators like Premiere Networks, WestWood One (Stephanie Miller), or DGital Media (Ed Schultz and Thom Hartmann (per Hartmann's site)).

Broadcasting, at least, is probably as far or farther from being an oligopoly as it was when Carter was President. DU-folks' problem is that they aren't considering ownership, as anti-trust laws do. They are looking at their highly skewed view of content (if it isn't Lib/Prog talking points and narratives, it's "right-wing") and at marketplace presence. Well, guess what? ConservaTalk does dominate the talk radio marketplace. It's because ConservaTalk gets listeners. Err America tried to market ProgTalk, and it failed, because it was rejected by potential listeners. As I illustrated above, there is no lack of ProgTalk shows available through major syndicators, but radio stations (who are "accountable" to their listeners) aren't running Ed, Thom, or Stephanie as much as they do Rush, Sean, Savage, or Levin.

The SF Bay Area (where I live) has no lack of Lib/Prog people, and Err America failed here! For some reason, DU-member "still_one" didn't mention that fact in his/her rant about Bay Area radio. Libs & Progs are a large part of the potential audience in the Bay Area, but they chose not to listen to Err America (KQKE, 960). Maybe they listened instead to thumpa-wumpa "music". Maybe they listened to their iPods (hugely popular at the time). Maybe Err America was insufficiently insane, and they listened to the loony soap opera of Pacifica Radio's KPFA. Maybe they watched TV instead. The point is, Err America's ProgTalk was easily available,but it was rejected by Bay Area Libs & Progs.

A perfect example is the San Francisco Bay area. There used to be a good variety of voices from all view points heard. That is now predominately filled with a conservative agenda. The cumulus broadcasting takeover of KGO was the final straw.

Mehhhh, "still_one" overstates a bit, and leaves out some important details. Yes, most of KGO's hosts were laid off in late 2011, including the conservative host Bill Wattenberg. However, the liberal Ronn Owens still hosts his very long-running morning show. Owens is reliably liberal, though probably insufficiently insane for "still_one's" tastes. What "still_one" didn't mention is that Cumulus moved many of its Lib/Prog hosts to another Cumulus station, KKSF (910). KGO has not done well, as a whole, and KKSF was recently changed to broadcasting ESPN's Spanish content.

The former Err America station, KQKE, tried to continue with ProgTalk after Err America bit the dust, but still didn't garner a decent audience. It was changed, for a time, to ConservaTalk, and more recently switched to business news and talk from Bloomberg Radio.

[SVPete]

More to the point, TMN is a typical elitist Prog:

* TMN knows what Americans should read, hear, and watch;

* TMN knows ordinary Americans cannot be trusted to read, hear, and watch what they should;

* TMN's reflexive solution is to use government power to make reading, hearing, and watching what should not be impossible.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Ol' Hoppity sure wants to bite the hand that gives his party mutual handies.

[SVPete]

Ol' Hoppity sure wants to bite the hand that gives his party mutual handies.

He doesn't recognize what he's being given ... how well does he aim his biting?