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Offline CC27

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Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« on: August 08, 2016, 10:58:21 AM »
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a candidate for POTUS ever being this far down in the polls like Trump and coming back to win? I"m an Old Geezer and can't and I have memories of the 1952 convention!

Next lets take the Senate BAck!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028082655

Retard. These polls are all media driven.
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2016, 11:15:44 AM »
I don't care to look it up, but just the other day one of the guests on FBN was saying that at a similar point in their campaigns, Dukakis was up more than Hitlery is now.
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2016, 11:58:13 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 08, 2016, 11:15:44 AM
I don't care to look it up, but just the other day one of the guests on FBN was saying that at a similar point in their campaigns, Dukakis was up more than Hitlery is now.
Heard that elsewhere recently too.  Dukakis was up by double digits about this time of year in '88.
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2016, 12:06:35 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on August 08, 2016, 11:58:13 AM
Heard that elsewhere recently too.  Dukakis was up by double digits about this time of year in '88.

Seventeen points.  Not insurmountable by any stretch of the imagination.
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2016, 01:16:10 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on August 08, 2016, 11:58:13 AM
Heard that elsewhere recently too.  Dukakis was up by double digits about this time of year in '88.
Big difference: George H. W. Bush was clearly sane and intelligent.
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2016, 02:01:35 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on August 08, 2016, 01:16:10 PM
Big difference: George H. W. Bush was clearly sane and intelligent.
That goes without mentioning.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2016, 02:20:11 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on August 08, 2016, 01:16:10 PM
Big difference: George H. W. Bush was clearly sane and intelligent.

And on the other hand, Dukakis didn't have anything remotely like Hitlery's baggage.
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2016, 03:19:09 PM »
brings back memories  :lmao:


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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2016, 06:23:54 PM »
Quote from: CC27 on August 08, 2016, 10:58:21 AM
Retard. These polls are all media driven.

I've never seen such dishonest, crooked "polling" in my life as what's going on now.

I suggest people not bother paying attention to them, and just go by gut instinct and intuition.
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2016, 06:57:06 PM »
No big Trump fan here... however I would like to point out that he has been left for dead before and came back to win the nomination.

I think the real key here for Trump is to win the so called swing states.  He does have an uphill climb as any GOP candidate does thanks to the biased reporting from the MSM.  I think much depends on if he can control his mouth for the next 3 months and not get distracted.
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2016, 07:01:15 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on August 08, 2016, 06:23:54 PM
I've never seen such dishonest, crooked "polling" in my life as what's going on now.

I suggest people not bother paying attention to them, and just go by gut instinct and intuition.

There was a link on Drudge today to a piece that mentioned that, in online polling by Reuters and other respected organizations, that there was a fairly large segment of respondents that would not respond for Trump if they were called by telephone, but because online polls are much more anonymous, they would indicate Trump.  Something on the order of 4 to 8 points.

My intuition says that, combined with the 'real-world' stories of the economy doing horribly (just look at all of the people out of the workforce), the Wikileaks emails tying HilLIARy to the arming of ISIS (Julian Assange's 'October Surprise'), the very real baggage that HilLIARy has from her years in the political process, and the fact that it's rather difficult for the same political party to hold the White House for three terms, plus the anti-establishment mood in the electorate, all add up to Donald J. Trump being elected as the 45th President of the United States of America.
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2016, 08:58:37 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on August 08, 2016, 07:01:15 PM
combined with the 'real-world' stories of the economy doing horribly (just look at all of the people out of the workforce),

They'll tout the economy, and in a way it is great...great for Hitlery's donors, that is.  The hedge fund managers, investment bankers, and their ilk have done great in a 'free' cash environment, with no place to put it for a return except stocks.  So for the few who have the access to get that zero-to-quarter-percent Fed money, and those selling stocks to them and trading that stock back and forth, it has looked fantastic.  Unfortunately in that artificial environment, stock price has wandered away from being a direct measure of value, becoming just a measure of relative value in an ultimately-fragile structure.

You'll hear lots of talk about reducing the deficit.  It's meaningless, since that reduction has been achieved by 'selling' that same huge amount of zero-to-quarter-percent Fed money and other government debt instruments into the market.  There are a huge number of balls in the air in a game that only gravity will eventually win. and the longer it takes to hit the ground the uglier it will be.   
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2016, 09:45:50 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on August 08, 2016, 01:16:10 PM
Big difference: George H. W. Bush was clearly sane and intelligent.

Not all that sure about that.  Quite frankly, his squishy shit led us on the path we are on, now.

Yes.  I hate the sonofabitch, ....  with a flaming passion.
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2016, 10:19:26 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 08, 2016, 08:58:37 PM
They'll tout the economy, and in a way it is great...great for Hitlery's donors, that is.  The hedge fund managers, investment bankers, and their ilk have done great in a 'free' cash environment, with no place to put it for a return except stocks.  So for the few who have the access to get that zero-to-quarter-percent Fed money, and those selling stocks to them and trading that stock back and forth, it has looked fantastic.  Unfortunately in that artificial environment, stock price has wandered away from being a direct measure of value, becoming just a measure of relative value in an ultimately-fragile structure.

You'll hear lots of talk about reducing the deficit.  It's meaningless, since that reduction has been achieved by 'selling' that same huge amount of zero-to-quarter-percent Fed money and other government debt instruments into the market.  There are a huge number of balls in the air in a game that only gravity will eventually win. and the longer it takes to hit the ground the uglier it will be.

Sad hut true DAT... Sad but true.
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Re: Can anybody remember ,,,,,,,,
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2016, 10:55:40 PM »
Quote from: CC27 on August 08, 2016, 10:58:21 AM
Retard. These polls are all media driven.

Quote from: franksolich on August 08, 2016, 06:23:54 PM
I've never seen such dishonest, crooked "polling" in my life as what's going on now.

I suggest people not bother paying attention to them, and just go by gut instinct and intuition.

I take polls with a grain of salt. I think this will be a close election. Perhaps a repeat of 1876, 1888, or 2000?
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