My two cents on the Anthrax Suicide… from a former spook

[bijou]

NightWatcher  (1000+ posts)       Sat Aug-02-08 01:05 PM
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My two cents on the Anthrax Suicide… from a former spook

His neighbors say that they knew that he was under surveillance because they parked the SV's (surveillance vehicles) in front of their houses on numerous occasions.

His was a classic "suicide op" in which the subject is surveilled OVERTLY. He is harassed until it drives him crazy. He is threatened with jail and prosecution like the Sword of Damacles was hanging over his head. He is "reminded" that if he goes to jail (and/or is executed) that his family will not receive any of his pension, insurance, retirement..... While his suicide probably voided any private insurance, his family will still not get benefits from the government.

Agents had reached his therapist and were getting the evidence to discredit his name and any defense that he might wage against the charges he was being threatened with. He was also being prepped for discreditation in the event that he turned "whistle blower".

His "suicide" was an excellent Operation by those who either were responsible for the original anthrax or who wanted to make the story go away by putting the blame on him.


Questions:

If Bruce Ivins was the main suspect, why hadn’t we heard anything about the Anthrax case in nearly seven years?
Why was Steven Hatfield able to successfully sue the US Government for harassment and violation of his civil liberties just a couple of months ago?
Did the government lean on Ivins just as they leaned on Hatfield, but Hatfield was able to get out from under the pressure by putting the pressure back on the government?

fwiw, I used to work in the "discrediting" field many years ago and have seen this done a few times, and this appears to have followed the SOP (standard operating procedure).

No autopsy huh, oh well I guess the case is closed and ready to be sent down the memory hole.

 

formercia  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-02-08 01:22 PM
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12. I concur
 Having been the target of one of these discreditation operations for many years, I can agree from first-hand experience, what it is like to be the 'rabbit.' Most people commit suicide. I decided to be a pain in the ass instead.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3719911

When he says former spook, he means he used to work in a carnival haunted house.

[bijou]

itsjustme  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-02-08 01:42 PM
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20. all that came up after he was targeted
 There could have been some mind control going on--not only by traditional means but maybe something electromagnetic too.

Or, he could have been guilty. The problem is, it is just impossible to tell.

This is very suspicious that it is coming at the end of the Bush term.

8_year_nightmare  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-02-08 02:00 PM
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23. Such a well-written OP, I was looking for a "link" to read more.
 There have been so many "suicides" in the last 8 years, that it's obvious to those of us who have kept up with the corruption through underground news. It's the people who have missed the (cleaned up) story blurbs buried on page 18 that may not get it.

There truly is a shadow government run by money-worshipping, power-hungry Rethugs, isn't there? Why else would the media go along with everything this adminstration does?

Oh noes, there won't be any elections in November, you will all be hypnotised into believing that they happened and McCain won.  All hail Teh Rove.

[formerlurker]

Lord they are just plain certifiable there aren't they?   

Didn't Tipper Gore admit to posting there?

[formerlurker]

My bad, it wasn't Tipper, it was John Edward's wife.   

[Chris_]

When he says former spook, he means he used to work in a carnival haunted house.

And he spends his spare time between "spook" gigs as being a little tea pot, short and stout.

We don't need to invade Iran. With the experience that TiT and Nightwatcher has we could just send those two into Iran.

[bijou]

Lord they are just plain certifiable there aren't they?   

Didn't Tipper Gore admit to posting there?

The madness is very strong on DU today. 

[franksolich]

When he says former spook, he means he used to work in a carnival haunted house.

Uh huh.

The usual standard primitive stretchy.

[bijou]

When he says former spook, he means he used to work in a carnival haunted house.

And he spends his spare time between "spook" gigs as being a little tea pot, short and stout.

We don't need to invade Iran. With the experience that TiT and Nightwatcher has we could just send those two into Iran.

Armed only with an array of colored sharpies.

[BlueStateSaint]

When he says former spook, he means he used to work in a carnival haunted house.

And he spends his spare time between "spook" gigs as being a little tea pot, short and stout.

 

H5!

[Lord Undies]

I think their slow realization that Obama Hussein is not going to win the election is driving them to a new previously unoccupied corner of lunacy.

[TheSarge]

I think their slow realization that Obama Hussein is not going to win the election is driving them to a new previously unoccupied corner of lunacy.

Can you imagine the cerebral explosion at the DUmp when they come up on the short end for a third Presidential election?

[Lord Undies]

I think their slow realization that Obama Hussein is not going to win the election is driving them to a new previously unoccupied corner of lunacy.

Can you imagine the cerebral explosion at the DUmp when they come up on the short end for a third Presidential election?

They haven't really won one since 1976, 32 years ago, and that one was a fluke of circumstances and far from a landslide.  They should not be surprised, but every day is a new day for them, so they are. 

There should be a special shrine at DU dedicated to Ross Perot.

[Carl]

I think their slow realization that Obama Hussein is not going to win the election is driving them to a new previously unoccupied corner of lunacy.

You are right,they see and know reality but are doing everything they can to remove themselves from it.
Have wandered the island a bit today and one gets a welling up sense of utter hysteria which is going to erupt.

They are by every measure deranged.

[Chris_]

formercia  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-02-08 01:22 PM
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12. I concur
 Having been the target of one of these discreditation operations for many years, I can agree from first-hand experience, what it is like to be the 'rabbit.' Most people commit suicide. I decided to be a pain in the ass instead.

(NOT!!!)

[ReaganForRushmore]

what is it with DU with TiT and nightwatcher being all this superhero types?

[Carl]

what is it with DU with TiT and nightwatcher being all this superhero types?

They are losers who aspire to greatness after seeing the CBS TANG story exposed as a fraud.
They fancy themselves just one post away from being lauded as the superintellectual they call themselves.

Since that just isn`t going to happen they entertain their fantasy's with these stories and tales which if were even remotely true would be all over the press,hell they would be on their beloved Keef show every night.

They know that Franks term for their place,an island,is true and that there is no memory of what they posted previously so they spin these tales of wonder,bask in the applause and then move on to something else.

[JohnnyReb]

I used to work in the "discrediting" field many years ago

formercia  (1000+ posts)      Sat Aug-02-08 01:22 PM
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12. I concur .... Having been the target of one of these discreditation operations for many years,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3719911

"discrediting field" = credit card fraud.
"discreditation operations" = Wife running amuck with numerous credit cards.

[TheSarge]

(NOT!!!)

I'm sooooooo addicted to this show