Rum & Coke Outrage!!!

[USA4ME]

Coventina

This has to be American Cultural Imperialism at its worst: "Rum and Coca-Cola"
 
I'll admit, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I'd heard this song by the Andrews Sisters since I was a kid, and never knew what it was really about.

Turns out, it's not "by" the Andrews Sisters at all. It's a calypso from Trinidad with original lyrics by Lord Invader, a famous calypso artist.

He wrote it during WW2 as biting social commentary. The Andrews Sisters covered it, and made it into a smash hit here in the states in 1944.

The problem? It's about impoverished Trinidadian women prostituting themselves for US Servicemen!
In what universe is that OK? Why did the American public eat it up?
Good lord, in terms of offensive songs, I really think this takes the cake! For three white women, already celebrities, to make money crooning about how "fun" prostitution is for poor black women.....GAH! It makes the blood boil!!

I mean, Lord Invader was trying to make a point about poverty and hypocrisy......the Andrews Sisters.....not so much.....

I just had to vent, because I just read the story behind the whole thing and was sickened.

I know this has nothing to do with what we're all talking about now....but in a way.....it does. It's the same attitude behind it all.....

(Andrew Sister song from YouTube)

on edit: added "cultural" to American Imperialism.....for obvious reasons that are obvious.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027999209

Every so often it's good to bring over a thread that, once again, demonstrates one of the primary reasons we laugh at the stupidity of the primitives. This one shows their propensity to want to exist in a constant state of anger and hatred, and how if they can't get enough from just everyday living, they'll hunt it down. This time, they had to go back to 1944.

Anger. Hatred. Liberalism. It all runs together.

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[Mugsaway]

smh...  dear lord, these people...  hahaha!

[USA4ME]

From wiki:

The Andrews Sisters also seem to have given little thought to the meaning of the lyrics. According to Patty Andrews, "We had a recording date, and the song was brought to us the night before the recording date. We hardly really knew it, and when we went in we had some extra time and we just threw it in, and that was the miracle of it. It was actually a faked arrangement. There was no written background, so we just kind of faked it," and only recorded it then because there were about 10 minutes to go in their recording session. Years later, Maxine Andrews recalled, "The rhythm was what attracted the Andrews Sisters to 'Rum and Coca-Cola'. We never thought of the lyric. The lyric was there, it was cute, but we didn't think of what it meant; but at that time, nobody else would think of it either, because we weren't as morally open as we are today and so, a lot of stuff—really, no excuses—just went over our heads."

That took a whole 2 seconds to google. I know, I know, anything that might be defined as "work" or "effort" is near impossible for the left.

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[Karin]

Response to Coventina (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:14 PM

Star Member Dreamer Tatum (10,121 posts)

2. I've been boycotting the Andrews Sisters since 1947.
 




Had I known about this outrage, I'd have started three years sooner.

Now I have three years of support of the Andrews Sisters on my conscience.

Damn.

Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:16 PM

Coventina (14,107 posts)

3. Just out of curiosity...what made you boycott them in 1947?
 
Inquiring minds want to know!
 

Whooosh!  What was that about not being the sharpest knife in the drawer?

This Coventina DUmmie is easily sickened and her blood easily boils.  Maybe we'll see her in the Dead DUmmie forum soon. 

At the thread, she continues to go on and on, and it's just "beyond sickening." 

[BannedFromDU]

     I herald the apparent return of Dreamer Tatum to the DUmp.

     That was a tasty lick of who-gives-a-shit that was generally missed by the outrage monkeys.

[FlaGator]

Libs just can't grasp that every little tidbit of reality wasn't offensive to every liberal on the planet. In fact the main things that offended democrats in the 1940s and 1950s was black people being treated like white people.

Think about that lurkers.

[thundley4]

The problem? It's about impoverished Trinidadian women prostituting themselves for US Servicemen!

Don't know the song but I'm guessing it's no worse than the average rap lyrics being pounded into young people every day.

[fatboy]

I'm curious about the actual meaning of the name Dreamer Tatum. So I did a Bing search on the word Tatum:


What does Tatum mean?

Tatum
image: http://cdn.thinkbabynames.com/img/play.png
Pronunciation of Tatum [tatum] as a girls' name is of Old English origin, and the meaning of Tatum is "Tata's homestead". Also possibly "light-hearted". Surname sometimes used as a girl's name, due to actress Tatum O'Neil.

Read more at http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Tatum#vBS6H8uABhYxrlkc.99



I think I have found this idiots actual problem, it's a liking for things of a Western flavor and not for the easy care-free life in the Caribbean basin.

[J P Sousa]

I thought it may be another Exhumed post from the archive. 

  I'll admit, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.   

Once in a while they admit the truth.

[FiddyBeowulf]

Don't know the song but I'm guessing it's no worse than the average rap lyrics being pounded into young people every day.

A song from frequent White House guest and Obama BFF: Jay-Z
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jayz/isthatyobitch.html

"Is That Yo Bitch?"
(feat. Missy 'Misdemeanor' Elliott, Twista)

[Jay-Z]
Uh, yo don't get mad at me
I don't love 'em I **** 'em
I don't chase 'em I duck 'em
I replace 'em with another one
You had to see she keep calling me BIG
And my name is Jay-Z
She be all on my dick
Gradually I'm taking over your bitch
Coming over your shit
Got my feet up on you sofa, man
I mean a hostess for my open hand
You coming home to beer shifts and there be soda cans
I got your bitch in my Rover man
I never kiss her, I never hold her hand
In fact I diss her I'm a bolder man
I'mma pimp her, it's over man
It's over man, it's over man

[Chris_]

Classy. 

[thundley4]

Star Member Dreamer Tatum (10,121 posts)

2. I've been boycotting the Andrews Sisters since 1947.
 
Had I known about this outrage, I'd have started three years sooner.

Now I have three years of support of the Andrews Sisters on my conscience.

Damn.

Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:16 PM

Coventina (14,107 posts)

3. Just out of curiosity...what made you boycott them in 1947?
 
Inquiring minds want to know!

You morons at the DUmp really need a humor lesson on sarcasm. 

[Karin]

She's the biggest airhead. 

Response to sufrommich (Reply #33)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 02:48 PM

Coventina (14,112 posts)

46. Really? So servicemen paying Trinidadian girls for sex was OK in 1944?
 
Doesn't sound very "Greatest Generation" to me.
 

Oh don't be so ****ing naïve.  Besides, aren't you people for "anything goes" when it comes to sex?  Philoslayer even defended some gang bang because it was "her body, her choice." 

She's another one of those who sit at their threads hitting refresh every 15 seconds. 

[landofconfusion80]

They're just upset that the Trinidad whores were engaged in free enterprise and making a buck rather than it being supplied by uncle sam sugar

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[fatboy]

Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:58 PM

Coventina (14,114 posts)

11. Just returned from Cuba with 3 bottles of Havana Club!
 
And yes, everything you say about Bacardi is real. They are part of the anti-Castro "grumpy old men" club.

I will never buy their rum, ever.

If Havana Club doesn't become available in the states, I'm going to stick with the small producers of the Caribbean. 

Make it stop, please.

[SVPete]

With DU-folk it's about who's doing, and who's being done. Had the song been recorded by Ivie Anderson or The Ink Spots, DU-folk would cheer it as a protest song snuck by whitey. But it was recorded by the Andrews Sisters, so it's time to crank up the outrage machine.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Response to sufrommich (Reply #33)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 02:48 PM

Coventina (14,112 posts)

46. Really? So servicemen paying Trinidadian girls for sex was OK in 1944?
 
Doesn't sound very "Greatest Generation" to me.

Hey DUmmie. Servicemen have been paying for sex since the first soldier took to the battlefield.

General Hooker had women follow his army, selling themselves at every chance. They became to be known as "Hookers girls, shortened to "hookers" (sound familiar?).

Those union troops you idolize. Some heros, right?

[Delmar]

Drinkin' rum and Coca Cola
Go down Point Koomahnah
Both mother and daughter
Workin' for the Yankee dollar
Oh, beat it man, beat it

https://play.google.com/music/preview/Tvnj4iw6pewalcooahfosco3eme?lyrics=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=lyrics&pcampaignid=kp-lyrics

I had never understood exactly what they were singing but now I see it was kind of kinky.  I like it.

[SVPete]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMdPjklEosY[/youtube]

So I listened and read, but I really don't see prostitution as a (let alone the) clear theme in the lyrics in the Andrews Sisters' recording. It seems more about bars and calypso music. The closest to prostitution is the verse about a couple spending the night together and the next morning relaxing in the sun. Point Cumana was (and may yet be) a beach resort in Trinidad.

Ah, this Wikipedia article is informative. The version of the lyrics recorded by the Andrews Sisters had been re-written by Morey Amsterdam at a couple of key lines. I doubt DU-folk would care that their faux-outrage-of-the-moment is misplaced; OTOH, I doubt the several Andrews Sisters' estates much care about DU-folks' outrage, either.