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primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« on: June 28, 2016, 08:52:58 AM »
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shireen (8,174 posts)    Sun Jun 26, 2016, 08:36 PM

lifting small boulders?
 
I have some small boulders in the back yard, sitting on a pallet. I need to move it to the front yard to do some DIY landscaping.

A strong guy could lift the boulders. I'm not that person. Are there other ways to safely transport the boulders? I was thinking of getting a landscaping hand truck -- push the rock into it, but since I have to move it up a slight slope, that may be too much to handle.

Another option is to get a small but strong cart for my troy-bilt mini rider lawn tractor. (I already have a plastic dump cart but don't want to risk breaking it.) I could move the rocks one at a time, if needed, but need a cart that's low enough and tilts so I could roll the boulder into it.

Any suggestions? I dont want to hire anyone to do it since I'm on a tight budget, so it's something i need to do myself.

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Warpy (87,951 posts)    Sun Jun 26, 2016, 09:00 PM

1. The hand truck will work. I even manage to get those up a couple of front steps when
 
I have to haul something heavy into my house. Yes, I own one, the price of having rheumatoid arthritis. Lots of stuff is too heavy for me these days.

The other piece of gear you need is an iron bar of some description to level it into place when you get there. A long crowbar might be enough to let you position the rocks when you get them to the general area. Learned that building a wall.

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mopinko (45,635 posts)    Sun Jun 26, 2016, 09:06 PM

2. a good landscapers truck is on my wish list.
 
i have a bobcat, so i use that a lot, but sometimes i cant get in w it. the tree guys i work w have big wheeled, wide trucks to shuffle logs around. they are awesome, and give me tool envy.

i cant lift shit any more, tho. forced to act my age. the horrors. 

Actually, Big Mo's compelled to act her weight, not her age.

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shireen (8,174 posts)    Mon Jun 27, 2016, 11:41 PM

8. wish i had a bobcat!
 
They're so cool. BTW, love your Facebook page. Sorry to hear about all the troubles you're having with those jerk neighbors and clueless alderman. They don't seem to understand that urban farms are going to become an essential part of a sustainable food supply. You're one of the pioneers. 

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rusty quoin (3,081 posts)    Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:19 AM

4. If your lawn tractor cannot handle them, I don't know what can do without help.
 
You cannot pick them up, but you can roll each one off the pallet with a bar or shovel.

I guess you can use a winch and ropes. Try to roll each Boulder onto a net, or even a tarp, and crank it up the hill strategically. Even this way would be better with help.

I assume what you say will mess up the plastic cart, but there might be smaller stone that the cart can handle. I admire your determination.

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shireen (8,174 posts)    Mon Jun 27, 2016, 11:48 PM

10. the lawn tractor isn't the problem
 
The lawn tractor should be able to pull it. My concern is getting a strong enough cart to haul the load. I can't use my current cart because it's made of plastic--it can handle heavy loads, like wood chips, as long as its spread across the entire container. With boulders, a great deal of force is exerted over a small area and I could end up destroying it. I need to find a small metallic cart that I can attach to the lawn tractor.

Thanks for the other ideas. The tarp idea may be a viable option.

My "determination" has got me into so much trouble. And debt! LOL! Thanks.

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pscot (20,043 posts)     Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:50 AM

5. Roll the rocks onto a tarp
 
and drag them. If you have an old tire, roll the rock onto the tire and drag it. Lay down a plastic tarp to reduce friction. Or you can lay a wheelbarrow on its side, roll the rock in and tip it back up. A steel bar like a crow bar or even a weight bar can be used as a lever. Be careful.

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6. First: Invest in a 12 pack of cheap beer and a folding lawn chair.
 
Unfold the lawn chair, pop open one of those beers, then sit and study the situation. Study very very carefully. Very carefully. Open another beer as needed. Again, study the whole situation. Stroll to the front yard with a fresh beer. Stand and study the whole situation again, plotting your route, the elevations, any obstacles etc on the route. Get another beer, this time stand in the front yard with one hand on your hip while you study the situation again. Return to the back yard, pop another beer and study the back yard situation from a standing position. Check the temperature...it might be too hot to do it today. Might need to wait till tomorrow. You know, get up early while it's still cool. Think on all that with another beer.

Pretty soon you will realize that the damn boulder looks just f***ing fine just where it f***ing is.

Drink the last of the 12 pack in celebration of a job well done. 
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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2016, 09:11:44 AM »
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8. wish i had a bobcat!
 
They're so cool. BTW, love your Facebook page. Sorry to hear about all the troubles you're having with those jerk neighbors and clueless alderman. They don't seem to understand that urban farms are going to become an essential part of a sustainable food supply. You're one of the pioneers. 

Only at the DUmp would a lunatic that walks barefoot through chicken shit be regarded a pioneer. :whatever:
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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2016, 09:12:44 AM »
Oh, well . . .

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mopinko (45,635 posts)    Sun Jun 26, 2016, 09:06 PM

2. a good landscapers truck is on my wish list.
 
i have a bobcat, so i use that a lot, but sometimes i cant get in w it. the tree guys i work w have big wheeled, wide trucks to shuffle logs around. they are awesome, and give me tool envy.

i cant lift shit any more, tho. forced to act my age. the horrors.

I suppose that it wasn't one of the type of bobcat in the link below . . .

http://spotlightnews.com/news/2016/06/23/new-scotland-couple-attacked-by-rabid-bobcat/

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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2016, 10:22:36 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on June 28, 2016, 09:12:44 AM
Oh, well . . .

I suppose that it wasn't one of the type of bobcat in the link below . . .

http://spotlightnews.com/news/2016/06/23/new-scotland-couple-attacked-by-rabid-bobcat/

 :censored: :censored: :censored:
Considering she calls her overgrown weed patch a farm and a broken down truck a chicken coop who the heck knows what her "bobcat" actually is.


Could possibly be Mo's "bobcat":
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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2016, 10:46:18 AM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on June 28, 2016, 10:22:36 AM
Considering she calls her overgrown weed patch a farm and a broken down truck a chicken coop who the heck knows what her "bobcat" actually is.


Could possibly be Mo's "bobcat":


She could house a couple dozen chicken shit factories in one of those, easily.
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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2016, 11:30:02 AM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on June 28, 2016, 10:22:36 AM
Considering she calls her overgrown weed patch a farm and a broken down truck a chicken coop who the heck knows what her "bobcat" actually is.


Could possibly be Mo's "bobcat":


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQeG_C1-JIA[/youtube]
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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2016, 04:02:59 PM »
Mercury Pinto ...   :lol:
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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2016, 03:43:11 PM »
DUmmies being outsmarted by rocks.  What are the odds.
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DUmmies being outsmarted by rocks.  What are the odds.

99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%, IMO.
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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2016, 04:45:35 PM »
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DUmmies being outsmarted by rocks.  What are the odds.

It happens on a daily basis.  Rocks are a lot smarter than DUmmies...
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It happens on a daily basis.  Rocks are a lot smarter than DUmmies...

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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2016, 06:27:51 PM »
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i cant lift shit any more, tho. forced to act my age. the horrors.

Utter rubbish.  I thought all you primitive types were super healthy???   


To wit:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAoMUn84ACU[/youtube]


By the way, this woman just a little while ago couldn't even get up out of a chair unassisted. 
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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2016, 03:05:09 PM »
City life restricts you from putting powder under the rock and aiming it the nearest rock pile.
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2016, 09:42:28 AM »
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City life restricts you from putting powder under the rock and aiming it the nearest rock pile.

Or making smaller rocks out of it with powder...
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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2016, 09:23:02 PM »
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8. wish i had a bobcat!
 
They're so cool. BTW, love your Facebook page. Sorry to hear about all the troubles you're having with those jerk neighbors and clueless alderman. They don't seem to understand that urban farms are going to become an essential part of a sustainable food supply. You're one of the pioneers. 

A good lib can't yearn for equipment powered by fossil fuels now can they?
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2016, 05:09:23 AM »
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A good lib can't yearn for equipment powered by fossil fuels now can they?
Somebody's mole is busting at the seams.

If her "chicken coop" ran, she could hook a chain to it and drag the rock to wherever she needed it, including Lake Michigan.
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Re: primitives, including Big Mo, discuss moving rocks
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2016, 06:35:42 AM »
haha... I'm getting a laugh out of some of this stuff. Especially the one about dragging a 500 pound rock with a tarp. 10 bucks says the primitive ends up with 20 pieces of really small tarp... and that's considering she figures out how to even get it rolled over on her 6 dollar Harbor Freight rain tarp and doesn't end up with skid marks on her face from broken bungee cords... haha. I'm having fun picturing it all right now.
Hell, they all forgot the simplest method. Tape a 20 dollar bill to the fridge and tell the 14 year-old it's his, all he has to do is move the rock. I know that for 20 bucks, my kid would get that rock on top of the house if he had to.
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2016, 08:58:29 AM »
I forgot the most obvious solution to Mo the urban farmers predicament...
Every lib is custom made to be an expert at breaking big rocks into little rocks.
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