working poor gold mine forum turns up another gem: "poorsplaining"

[BattleHymn]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12841070

Already at 100+ replies.  I'll bring over a few, but it's worth a row over:

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:03 AM
Star Member Dragonfli (10,607 posts)

'poorsplaining'

This discussion thread is pinned.
I often resist the urge to poorsplain to the obviously financially secure posters here that keep telling us how well we are all doing, how we are in recovery, how we are on the right track.

What about access to not worrying about your electricity being cut off because you are juggling bills?
What about access to a dignified, well-funded mass transit system?
What about access to education and opportunity?


Are questions I ask on a daily basis, and what might shock some of the cheerleaders here is that those are the most common thoughts to enter the minds of the average American in this day and age, yes, I said average, but it really is more like the majority of Americans. The majority of us have been left behind in an economy where we lose more each day as the well to do gain more each day, what makes matters worse is that we no longer appear to have much in the way of representation no matter how we vote.

I would give what little remains of my life for a party of the people, a labor party, a party that is concerned about the rising and rampant poverty all around the insulated bubbles of the few remaining middle class members that love to tell me how great we are doing, how progressive our party is, how our leaders "feel our pain".

I would poorsplain to them what the true reality is as a party that once represented the people has for the past thirty years abandoned us to decay as a people as completely as they have abandoned the crumbling bridges roads and empty factories that once were the life blood of a people first marginalized, then ignored, and now completely invisible. - it is as if the majority of Americans do not exist.

I would do this splainin' but such is condescension and anger does not translate well as condescension but rather rage repressed becomes expressed, and this insulated bubble of cheerleading "sports team" enthusiasts that do not have the worries of the common man are quite fragile and easily offended, they would ban me from this site were I to attempt to poorsplain to them the nature of the reality of the suffering all around them they are blind to as my condescension would turn to rage before the first paragraph were completed.

You see, it is not just the rich that keep 'splainin to us "how we need to be" to not be struggling and losing, but also those that carry their water from the insulated middle class that are the only ones spoken to by our representatives, the house servants to the rich that exist within our party that are skeeved out by a class they fear they will one day join if they don't ally themselves to the rich splaining servants of the upper crust that call themselves representatives to the people.

If any of them truly cared about anyone but themselves, if any of them cared about most of their fellow citizens, they would not cheer on and idolize those that have shaped a party that once served the people into a golem fit only to further enrich the already rich using nothing more than soft rhetoric and broken promises to the middle class that carry their water while ignoring the rest, the majority, the struggling .... the invisible that are losing or have lost everything to policies chosen by those that they swoon over and adore as if they were teenagers smitten by a heart throb.

There are exceptions within these insulated bubbles of middleclassdom that do see us and do see with deeper insight how their class too shall fall to the greed of the wealthy that own our representatives, there are exceptions as well within our representative bodies that can see the invisible majority, they are the ones that have my respect as advocates that show true empathy and disgust at the indefensible state we find ourselves in and who would, like statesmen of a time now past, attempt to effect change that will perhaps not make the majority wealthy, but at least comfortable enough to survive without the constant dread of becoming homeless and dead. But alas, they need no one to explain to them because they already have eyes to see.

To the rest, you are cowards or complicit idiots that perhaps feel you will one day rise above your middle class status to trample us beneath your feet like the heroes you idolize that have brought this country to a state where an economic recovery is now defined as the rich gaining much more of the monetary resources they will never need or likely spend while the majority fall further into poverty. House servants are what they are, and could only maybe learn from working in the fields for a bowl of gruel and a hope that the next day they will be able to break their backs yet again for yet one more bowl, one more day alive. I do not respect such individuals and attempts to 'poorsplain to them would more likely result in a lynch mob directed towards me than a change of mind or heart.

This is a bad day today (as perhaps evidenced by my lengthy rambling response), one more acquaintance went homeless today and we are all of us trying to help around here but with little success save temporary floor accommodations and calls to the mostly ineffective representatives that work within a tattered and barely existent safety net apparatus ravaged a few decades ago with bi-partisan support and a well adored sports team favorite named Clinton.

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:39 AM
me b zola (19,045 posts)
4. Thank you for this post

One of the interesting parts of belonging to this message board is observing the financially privileged defend politicians and policies that harm the vast majority of Americans...and do so with their nose in the air. Some of the posts that I have seen here remind me of the 1%ers drinking champagne from a balcony while Occupy Wall street was marching beneath them. They mock our circumstances and let us know in no uncertain terms that our lives do not matter to them.

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:56 AM
Star Member Ford_Prefect (1,455 posts)
6. Well to be fair we are in some views the "undeserving" poor. We brought it on ourselves, you see.

We sold the jobs to overseas locations where they pay pennies the hour. We demanded all those excessive perks like pension programs, paid holiday and sick leave, employee health insurance, union negotiated contracts and wage levels. We forced the wealthy owners and managers to rip us off. We forced the investors to off-shore the goods and the work.

Yeah it's tough at the top. But someone has to do it, if only to teach we lazy, unproductive slobs a lesson.

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:56 AM
Star Member Punx (428 posts)
7. k & r

Thank you,

Everyone I know is struggling in some way, even though employed. Some close friends lost their home due to an ill timed job loss and bank deceit.

Many of my neighbors have college age children and none are going to even state universities because they can't afford to send them.

And my personal favorite.  Which one of you jokers wrote this?

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:03 AM
felix_numinous (5,025 posts)
23. Thank you Dragonfli

You speak for the silent uncounted and unrepresented (except for a few) people. There are more and more living in cars, trailers and on the street, who have to face floods, fires and extreme temperatures and the real world.

Fear is why people don't face death, poverty or illness until it is upon them. People in the US are kept in a state of puer aeternus--the eternal child, or in a state of juvenile arrested development. When you don't grow up, you don't develop a sense of social responsibility. In this society, people are enabled to be adult children with tons of money, power and weapons--who display no greater wisdom than bullies in a playground, or spoiled kids who don't know how to feed themselves, clean up their own messes or even share their toys or food.

Fear is what drives people not to look directly at death and poverty--because without this money and all the props it buys, that is where REALITY exists.

The occupy movement, Bernie Sanders supporters, progressives and socialist movement are made up of people who have taken the red pill of the actual world and broken out of the illusion matrix this moneyed class has created. Climate change will wake the rest up shortly, it won't be long.

 

[Carl]

What it must be like to spend all day wishing what someone else has was given to you.

[miskie]

I read posts like these above and say to myself, "they can't be serious..". Then I remember the posts are from DU and realize 'yes, they are.'.

[98ZJUSMC]

I read posts like these above and say to myself, "they can't be serious..". Then I remember the posts are from DU and realize 'yes, they are.'.

Yep ....... and this:

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:03 AM
felix_numinous (5,025 posts)
23. Thank you Dragonfli

You speak for the silent uncounted and unrepresented (except for a few) people. There are more and more living in cars, trailers and on the street, who have to face floods, fires and extreme temperatures and the real world.

Fear is why people don't face death, poverty or illness until it is upon them. People in the US are kept in a state of puer aeternus--the eternal child, or in a state of juvenile arrested development. When you don't grow up, you don't develop a sense of social responsibility. In this society, people are enabled to be adult children with tons of money, power and weapons--who display no greater wisdom than bullies in a playground, or spoiled kids who don't know how to feed themselves, clean up their own messes or even share their toys or food.

Fear is what drives people not to look directly at death and poverty--because without this money and all the props it buys, that is where REALITY exists.

The occupy movement, Bernie Sanders supporters, progressives and socialist movement are made up of people who have taken the red pill of the actual world and broken out of the illusion matrix this moneyed class has created. Climate change will wake the rest up shortly, it won't be long.    

...is simply beyond    belief.

People in the US are kept in a state of puer aeternus--the eternal child, or in a state of juvenile arrested development.

Self-awareness.  It's not some New Age fReEsHiT!!111! scam, retard.

Everyone I know is struggling in some way, even though employed. Some close friends lost their home due to an ill timed job loss

Unpossible.  4.7% unemployment.  Your Ministry of Truth says so, Comrade.   

and bank deceit.

Oh, well .... of course.

Many of my neighbors have college age children and none are going to even state universities because they can't afford to send them.

Neither could mine yet, four out of five* of us went to college.  Strange, huh?

* - My youngest sister is Downs Syndrome

[USA4ME]

When you believe the answer to your problems is with a political party or gov't, then just cash it in, you're past the point of no return to reality.

.

[SVPete]

Evidently "Dragonfli" is unaware that Marx and his descendants - the elite that knowbetter than"the people" what is good for "the people" - were all of middle and upper class roots.

[landofconfusion80]

There's a little girl that lives down the street... she told my wife yesterday that she was going to make a sign asking for money and stand out by the curb waiting for it.  Of course my wife tried to help. "Do you know where to go to get money?" "No!where?" " to work." "Ewwww, no!I'll just make my sign."  I'll be interested to see what her DU screen name will be.

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[Movie buff- The Sequel]

"What about access to a dignified, well-funded mass transit system?"
A 'dignified' mass transit system? What the hell does that even mean?
"What about access to education and opportunity?"
Work hard enough in high school, and you can get a scholarship to help fund college education. It's how I got to college, but the DUmmies would probably claim it was "White privilege" or some crap like that.

"The occupy movement, Bernie Sanders supporters, progressives and socialist movement are made up of people who have taken the red pill of the actual world and broken out of the illusion matrix this moneyed class has created."
Actually, all those groups (Especially the Occupy movement) are made up of spoiled trust- fund brats whose parents are part of the very "Moneyed class" they claim to have such contempt for all the while continuing to leech money off them. It's their way of being cool and feeling "Enlightened" by rebelling against their parents while demanding more and more money and presents from them. Part of it's also that they're too ignorant and short- sighted to realize the long- term consequences of their demented philosophies.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:03 AM
Star Member Dragonfli (10,607 posts)

'poorsplaining'

This discussion thread is pinned.
I often resist the urge to poorsplain to the obviously financially secure posters here that keep telling us how well we are all doing, how we are in recovery, how we are on the right track.

What about access to not worrying about your electricity being cut off because you are juggling bills?
What about access to a dignified, well-funded mass transit system?
What about access to education and opportunity?


Are questions I ask on a daily basis, and what might shock some of the cheerleaders here is that those are the most common thoughts to enter the minds of the average American in this day and age, yes, I said average, but it really is more like the majority of Americans. The majority of us have been left behind in an economy where we lose more each day as the well to do gain more each day, what makes matters worse is that we no longer appear to have much in the way of representation no matter how we vote.

I would give what little remains of my life for a party of the people, a labor party, a party that is concerned about the rising and rampant poverty all around the insulated bubbles of the few remaining middle class members that love to tell me how great we are doing, how progressive our party is, how our leaders "feel our pain".

I would poorsplain to them what the true reality is as a party that once represented the people has for the past thirty years abandoned us to decay as a people as completely as they have abandoned the crumbling bridges roads and empty factories that once were the life blood of a people first marginalized, then ignored, and now completely invisible. - it is as if the majority of Americans do not exist.

I would do this splainin' but such is condescension and anger does not translate well as condescension but rather rage repressed becomes expressed, and this insulated bubble of cheerleading "sports team" enthusiasts that do not have the worries of the common man are quite fragile and easily offended, they would ban me from this site were I to attempt to poorsplain to them the nature of the reality of the suffering all around them they are blind to as my condescension would turn to rage before the first paragraph were completed.

You see, it is not just the rich that keep 'splainin to us "how we need to be" to not be struggling and losing, but also those that carry their water from the insulated middle class that are the only ones spoken to by our representatives, the house servants to the rich that exist within our party that are skeeved out by a class they fear they will one day join if they don't ally themselves to the rich splaining servants of the upper crust that call themselves representatives to the people.

If any of them truly cared about anyone but themselves, if any of them cared about most of their fellow citizens, they would not cheer on and idolize those that have shaped a party that once served the people into a golem fit only to further enrich the already rich using nothing more than soft rhetoric and broken promises to the middle class that carry their water while ignoring the rest, the majority, the struggling .... the invisible that are losing or have lost everything to policies chosen by those that they swoon over and adore as if they were teenagers smitten by a heart throb.

There are exceptions within these insulated bubbles of middleclassdom that do see us and do see with deeper insight how their class too shall fall to the greed of the wealthy that own our representatives, there are exceptions as well within our representative bodies that can see the invisible majority, they are the ones that have my respect as advocates that show true empathy and disgust at the indefensible state we find ourselves in and who would, like statesmen of a time now past, attempt to effect change that will perhaps not make the majority wealthy, but at least comfortable enough to survive without the constant dread of becoming homeless and dead. But alas, they need no one to explain to them because they already have eyes to see.

To the rest, you are cowards or complicit idiots that perhaps feel you will one day rise above your middle class status to trample us beneath your feet like the heroes you idolize that have brought this country to a state where an economic recovery is now defined as the rich gaining much more of the monetary resources they will never need or likely spend while the majority fall further into poverty. House servants are what they are, and could only maybe learn from working in the fields for a bowl of gruel and a hope that the next day they will be able to break their backs yet again for yet one more bowl, one more day alive. I do not respect such individuals and attempts to 'poorsplain to them would more likely result in a lynch mob directed towards me than a change of mind or heart.

This is a bad day today (as perhaps evidenced by my lengthy rambling response), one more acquaintance went homeless today and we are all of us trying to help around here but with little success save temporary floor accommodations and calls to the mostly ineffective representatives that work within a tattered and barely existent safety net apparatus ravaged a few decades ago with bi-partisan support and a well adored sports team favorite named Clinton.

Let me break this down to a few sentences:

When we were all in high school, we goofed off, got bad grades, took home ec and any other easy class we could get to squeak by with a 1.1 gpa. Instead of going to college, we partied for a few years then got jobs as dishwashers. No one will hire us to make anything more than minimum wage so we now have to fight to have people give us free shit.

Is that close?

[I_B_Perky]

Let me break this down to a few sentences:

When we were all in high school, we goofed off, got bad grades, took home ec and any other easy class we could get to squeak by with a 1.1 gpa. Instead of going to college, we partied for a few years then got jobs as dishwashers. No one will hire us to make anything more than minimum wage so we now have to fight to have people give us free shit.

Is that close?

Close? Hell that was a bullseye!

It just never ceases to amaze me that those parasites have the gall to tell people like us that we are voting against our best interests.

Dummies... when ya all can take care of yourself then come and talk to us.  Until then ESAD.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Close? Hell that was a bullseye!

It just never ceases to amaze me that those parasites have the gall to tell people like us that we are voting against our best interests.

Dummies... when ya all can take care of yourself then come and talk to us.  Until then ESAD.

They tell us we're voting against our best interests because we have diametrically opposed interests. THEIR interest is go get all the free shit they can. College, housing, health insurance (NOT the same as health care), free phones, free internet, etc.

OUR best interest is to have a good job, support the wife, kids, house etc. and survive through our own efforts. They simply cannot understand anyone that doesn't want anything "free".

So, in their mind, we vote against our best interests.

[docstew]

They tell us we're voting against our best interests because we have diametrically opposed interests. THEIR interest is go get all the free shit they can. College, housing, health insurance (NOT the same as health care), free phones, free internet, etc.

OUR best interest is to have a good job, support the wife, kids, house etc. and survive through our own efforts. They simply cannot understand anyone that doesn't want anything "free".

So, in their mind, we vote against our best interests.

I thought our best interest was to be left the hell alone?

[Big Dog]

I thought our best interest was to be left the hell alone?

That's my best interest.

[landofconfusion80]

I thought our best interest was to be left the hell alone?

Hello libertarian party!

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