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Offline franksolich

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primitives discuss differences between 2008 and 2016
« on: June 06, 2016, 07:21:23 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512141311

Oh my.

You know, I'm kind of sad; the primitive civil war ends in about twenty-four hours from now.

I'm gonna miss it.

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amborin (16,531 posts)    Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:07 PM

2016 Is NOT Remotely Comparable to 2008
 
President Obama had a great record and had campaigned as a progressive.

President Obama was not under any investigations of any kind, especially FBI investigations.

President Obama was against the Iraq war

President Obama campaigned for peace

ETC......

Hillary is under FBI investigation

Hillary disregarded FOIA rules and the public's right to transparency and access to the historical record

Hillary has a demonstrated record of repetitive lies

Hillary has a record of implementing reckless regime change in the Middle East

Hillary has a record of supporting anti-democratic coups in Honduras

Hillary has a record of making promises to voters about FTAs, then lobbying for them and voting with Republicans and against Democrats for them

HIllary has a record of supporting a right wing regime in Colombia that brutalized union organizers

Hillary has accepted massive speaking fees from big banks, big pharma, etc and refuses to release the transcripts

Hillary cites as role models such war criminals and Neo Cons as Kissinger and Kagan

Hillary championed the TPP

Hillary's senate record shows she promised to rein in the big banks and fight inequality and loopholes for the wealthy, but instead upheld tax loopholes for big hedge funds and investors

Hillary is on tape and video saying she is "adamantly against illegal immigrants" and voted many times for a border wall

Plus, many more differences.

So, bottom line is: there IS NO comparison between this primary cycle and the one in 2008

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Tarc (7,322 posts)   Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:08 PM

1. It's ok, let it all out
 
Hillary will be the presumptive nominee in 24 hours. 

Yeah.

But surely franksolich isn't the only one who's going to miss the soon-to-be-over primitive civil war.

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floriduck (1,774 posts)    Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:13 PM

2. Barack and Hillary agreed on so many issues. That's another reason Hillary conceded after CA.
 
But she wrangled the SOS position from Obama as she began her run for 2016. If Bernie is not the nominee, he will hand off the movement to others. That's why she clung so tightly to Obama, at least she said that, so she could slip in behind him when his term expires.

Bernie and Hillary are not even close in ideology. Hillary is a corporatist and Bernie is a middle class kind of guy.

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beachbumbob (891 posts)    Mon Jun 6, 2016, 08:13 PM

3. Just ignore the fact that Bernie was ok with a black guy using super delegates
 
And against a woman using same super delegates....either sexism or hypocrisy or both

Uh huh.  There ^^^ you have it.
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Re: primitives discuss differences between 2008 and 2016
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2016, 07:51:49 PM »
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2016 Is NOT Remotely Comparable to 2008
 
President Obama had a great record and had campaigned as a progressive.

Wait, whut? What record? Obama nearly always voted present on any bill of importance in Illinois and did the same in the US senate.
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Re: primitives discuss differences between 2008 and 2016
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2016, 09:01:56 PM »
Is she going to be the presumptive nominee in 24 hours, or "24 business hours"?
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Re: primitives discuss differences between 2008 and 2016
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2016, 10:28:28 PM »
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President Obama had a great record and had campaigned as a progressive.

He had no record and campaigned as "Hey, I'm Black."

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President Obama was not under any investigations of any kind, especially FBI investigations.


Never having done anything in your whole life can be and advantage after all.

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President Obama was against the Iraq war

Which was effectively over when he took office, then he proceeded to screw the pooch on it so bad it came back to life while he was still in office.  He was FOR the Afghan war, which he also hosed up royally, then started a war for NOTHING in Libya and turned a stable state into a terrorist cesspool, and managed to destabilize the entire African Med littoral and Syria at the same time, achieving NOTHING which was good for the US or US interests in the region, and that in turn further screwed up Iraq.  And don't even get me started on what he did with Iran.

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President Obama campaigned for peace

Well, he got a Nobel Peace Prize, anyway.
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Re: primitives discuss differences between 2008 and 2016
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2016, 02:30:45 AM »
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President Obama campaigned for peace

So do two-year-olds and Ms. America contestants, retard.
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