open letter to NYC_SKP (six primaries live thread for 06-07) [it's over]

[franksolich]

Okay now, this is the "live" thread for the Democrat primaries and caucuses taking place on Tuesday, June 7, in Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, and the "glamour" state that gets far more attention from Hollywood, television, and the media, than what it deserves.

California's going to get exactly the amount of attention it deserves on this thread, no more, no less.

As usual, every time there's a new-and-improved count of delegates, the youtube of horses trampling the Bernie bullies, to the tune of the "William Tell Overture," will be played.  It might seem a little violent, a little bloody, to see it that way, but one has to remember the Bernie bullies themselves, early on when they were king of the hill, wished exactly the same fate upon the then-outnumbered supporters of Messalina Agrippina.

They were lusting, salivating, drooling, smacking their lips, over the prospect, but alas for the Bernie bullies, the tables have since turned.

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This "open letter," which is perhaps destined to be one of the last for this primary season--there'll probably be a couple more, but we're near the end--is addressed to the founder of the Bernie bullies, Skippy, the now-banned NYC_SKP primitive, who created this monster.

I'm sure everybody remembers how it happened; Messalina Agrippina was coasting along, unchallenged, with a clear road to victory for the Democrat nomination, when suddenly out of the blue Skippy announced to the primitives that the old sourassed sourpuss was "more left" than she.

That of course was a bald-faced lie; Messalina Agrippina's just as "left," if not more so, as Methuselah.  But as Skippy has credibility among the primitives--if he told them the moon is square, they'd believe him--it was taken as Gospel, and the primitives had themselves a presidential candidate.

And so yes, we all have Skippy to blame for this whole sordid mess, all the bitter infighting, the Democrat party in near shambles, Skins's island close to being torn asunder.

Why did he do this?

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Skippy's well-known for being afraid of smart, strong, assertive women; Messalina Agrippina scared the Hell out of him.

Also, Skippy, despite his career in engineering and architecture, is a destroyer, not a builder; because of a whole shopping-list of insecurities and inadequacies and anger, he likes to tear down, wreck, probably thinking the act of destruction'll make him feel better about himself.

And there sat Skins, owner and operator of the biggest and most successful primitive message-board on the internet, a rather impressive creation; nay, almost a work of art.

With the nihilistic Skippy around, Skins's island was a sitting duck.

[franksolich]

Oh my.

New totals; let loose the horses.

https://youtu.be/yrvGcCK0o_o

Messalina Agrippina 2,360 delegates (it takes 2,383 to win)
Methuselah 1,567 delegates

[franksolich]

Now, this isn't going to make any sense to the mentally-retarded Bernie bullies, but for everybody else, it's a handy memory-reminder:

http://onlineathens.com/opinion/2016-06-04/galis-superdelegates-arent-democratic-design-flaw

'Superdelegates' aren't Democratic design flaw

.....Why would a national political party think superdelegates are a good thing?

Let’s start with who the super­delegates are, calling them by their proper name. “Superdelegate” is a media invention. Officially, they’re “unpledged party leaders and elected officials.” According to the Pew Research Center, there are 713 of them this year. The 582 who’ve declared for either Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders can change their minds any time until they actually cast their votes at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.

The largest group of unpledged delegates consists of members of the Democratic National Committee. Others include sitting members of Congress, governors, current and former presidents and vice-presidents of the United States, former leaders of both houses of Congress, and all former chairpersons of the Democratic National Committee.

So, contrary to widespread belief in some quarters, the unpledged delegates aren’t political hacks or people who wandered in off the street. They’re people who, for the most part, have a substantial record of demonstrated service to the Democratic Party and a stake in its fortunes.....

.....The Democrats’ device for both preserving the advantages of national nominating campaigns and minimizing the odds of a chaotic, logrolling convention is to put 15 percent of the total number of convention votes in the hands of people with established records of commitment to the party’s welfare, from the highest office down.

Sanders supporters who complain at high volume that this device is “corrupt,” “unfair” and “rigged” are absolutely right in believing that it creates major headwinds for outsider, insurgent candidates like Sanders. But that’s not a flaw in the scheme; it’s a feature. It positions a group of people who’ve heavily invested in the party’s welfare over an extended period to resist the sort of “hostile takeover” that the Republicans realized too late occurred on their side.

Ironically, Bernie Sanders has been inveighing against the party’s unpledged delegates even though, as a U.S. senator and newly minted Democrat, he’s one of them, a distinction Hillary Clinton can’t claim.

[franksolich]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/06/hillary-clinton-democratic-nomination/85485764/

Ooops, and the fat lady wasn't even ready to sing yet.

Hillary Clinton clinches nomination
8:44 p.m. EDT June 6, 2016

[franksolich]

Bring on the horses; it's over.

https://youtu.be/yrvGcCK0o_o

Messalina Agrippina 2,383 delegates
Methuselah 1,569

[franksolich]

http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?12841-WTF-is-this-Hillary-was-just-declared-the-nominee

jillan    Today, 07:56 PM #1 

WTF is this? Hillary was just declared the nominee.

http://bigstory.ap.org/779b7012af24446289623a968926ec04

They must've heard how badly they were going to do in California? 

The only reaction of the jackals thus far; of course, the news is new, only minutes old.

[I_B_Perky]

The day of the bernie bots bullies is officially over.   

Now listen up you bernie dummies... it is time for you to face reality.  Bernie has been slayed by the hildabeast.

All is not lost though.  What you bernie dummies can do is stay home in november. You did not get your way so take your ball and go home.  That will teach the hildabeast supporters!!

[thundley4]

jillan    Today, 07:56 PM #1 

WTF is this? Hillary was just declared the nominee.

http://bigstory.ap.org/779b7012af24446289623a968926ec04

They must've heard how badly they were going to do in California?

The liberal democrat favoring AP has polled a sufficient number of superdelegates that say they would rather go down on Hillary than on Bernie and won't change their feeble minds.

The AP did the same thing when they announced Trump was the winner several weeks ago, except then they polled the undeclared gop delegates.

[franksolich]

Well, the retarded Bernie bullies--God, there's no other word to describe them, but "retarded"--are alleging the call was made because ostensibly Messalina Agrippina's going to do poorly in California and New Jersey [sic] tomorrow, and the news media, ostensibly in Messalina Agrippina's pocket, wanted to pre-empt the bad news.

Question.

What difference would it make, how Messalina Agrippina does on Tuesday?

If the news media's determined she has the winning number of delegates, the news media has an obligation to report that finding as soon as it's known.  To withhold information of this nature would probably be a violation of journalistic ethics.

[franksolich]

If I were Skins, I'd advise the elusive enigmatic Elad to keep a close watch on Skins's island tonight, as I'm sure there's some Bernie bullies capable of doing some mischief to the site.

[BattleHymn]

The Jackals site is pretty funny tonight.   


nads slams the AP, on ethics grounds!  Take that!!  Whoosh!!

nadin  Today, 07:58 PM

                 
I slammed them on ethics grounds

https://reportingsandiego.com/2016/0...ptive-nominee/

[franksolich]

The Jackals site is pretty funny tonight.   

It's been only a few hours, but such was the sudden-ness and the shock of the announcement, coming twenty-four hours before I expected it to happen, that I've already forgotten what I was doing, and where I was (room in the house) when I first heard the news.

I immediately dashed through the kitchen, out the back door, off the back porch onto the back lawn, and did a hopak, an eastern European peasant dance.  But alas I don't have the stamina I used to......

The proud had been brought down from their high places.  God, I was s-o-o-o-o-o-o happy.  Being a "handicapped" person, I can't tell you how much I've suffered, what I've put up with, at the hands of these pompous arrogant conceited self-centered asses pretending to be "socially conscious" and "socially sensitive" when in fact they're just flatulent assholes.

God, I was s-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o happy.

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Okay, so the supporters of Messalina Agrippina on Skins's island got their wish; she has the nomination.

And decent and civilized people hoping for a protracted and bruising civil war among the Democrats, liberals, and primitives, are pretty much guaranteed their wish.  There's probably going to be a lot of amusement and entertainment the next several months, as the primitives squibble-squabble and angrily wiggle-waggle their armpits at each other.

But franksolich hasn't gotten all of his wish yet, the utter destruction of the Bernie bullies.  There's probably going to be some diehard holdouts, like those Japanese soldiers hiding in the jungles of remote Pacific islands clear into the 1970s.  And I intend to labor ceaselessly until they're all, every single one of them, flushed out and publicly embarrassed and humiliated. 

[franksolich]

Oh now, what's this crap?

No links, because I didn't bother reading the stories, only the headlines, but the stories are all over the place.

"CLINTON TO CALL SANDERS....."

She doesn't need to do that, and it's not going to get her any brownie points anyway from the Bernie bullies, who're going to hate her no matter how much courtesy and statesmanship she shows.

I think it's incumbent upon the old sourassed sourpuss to call her, to congratulate her and to apologize for having put her through so much trouble, he having been such a rectal aperture.

[landofconfusion80]

It may benefit skimmer to post some suicide hotline contact info for the resident bernie supporters this evening. He could appear to care about their wellbeing

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[franksolich]

One's amused at how the jackals are all wrought up, bent out of shape, because of the timing of the announcement that Messalina Agrippina had at long last finally gotten the delegates she needs, to get the nomination.

"Retarded" is not simply a careless lazy slur upon the Bernie bullies; it's a very apt description.

As we got closer and closer to today, a big day for primaries, Messalina Agrippina was picking up superdelegates here-and-there, one at a time.  She was already pretty close, although it looked as if she wasn't going to have a majority until New Jersey voted today.

Well, damn.

Just before today, many uncommitted superdelegates finally committed.  They're all politicians; they all watch what way the wind's blowing, and act accordingly.  It shouldn't be any surprise that a whole lot of them decided about the same time that the weather-vane pointed towards Messalina Agrippina.

Thus Messalina Agrippina gathering a majority of delegates last evening.

It just happens that way; there's no conspiracy, no manipulation going on.

And once the magic number was reached, no matter when it was reached, it probably would've been a breach of journalistic ethics to not report it, to "wait" for some peculiar reason.

[franksolich]

It's all moot now--it should've been moot more than a month ago, but some old sourassd sourpuss held things up--but today's Democrat primaries:

New Jersey [126 delegates], polls close at 7:00 p.m. central time

New Mexico [34 delegates], polls close at 8:00 p.m. central time
North Dakota [18 delegates], polls close at 8:00 p.m. central time
South Dakota [20 delegates], polls close at 8:00 p.m. central time

Montana [21 delegates], polls close at 9:00 p.m. central time

California [475 delegates], polls close at 10:00 p.m. central time

[franksolich]

I've watched that youtube video thing, from start-to-finish, every time Messalina Agrippina's upped her delegate count.  It's obviously clips from movies.

Never having paid much attention to Hollywood and movies, I have little or no idea which movies.

The parts that look like Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders galloping over the Cuban plains is actually from a movie about the Australians going after the Turks, during the first world war.

I assume the Scots-looking parts are from one of those ubiquitous movies about that country made during the 1980s and 1990s.

I have no idea what the one's from, where it looks as if everybody's rushing across someone's front yard.

And the metallic-looking Asiatic guys, I assume that's Genghis Khan or Tamerlane, but I'd have no idea the movie.

But it's all been good, imagining them as supporters of Messalina Agrippina mowing down the detestable Bernie bullies.

[franksolich]

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/democrats-find-surprise-the-primary-finish-line

Oh my.

Democrats find a surprise at the primary finish line

The political world thought it had a pretty good idea about how the race for the Democratic nomination was going to wrap up. Six states would hold their nominating contests today; Hillary Clinton would clinch a majority of the pledged delegates; Bernie Sanders would say party elites might yet override the people’s choice despite all evidence to the contrary; and the media would, later tonight, declare Clinton the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

But about 12 hours ago, we were confronted with a curveball: news organizations, including the Associated Press and NBC News, said Clinton has already crossed the finish line.....

.....As Rachel explained on the show last night, the delegate math is relatively straightforward: there are a total of 4,765 delegates available, so the first candidate to reach 2,383 delegates earns the nomination. Take the pledged delegates Clinton has won through primaries and caucuses, add the number of super-delegates who’ve committed to supporting her, and the arithmetic shows she crossed the threshold yesterday – no matter what happens in the final round of contests.....

.....Around the same time, the Sanders campaign issued a statement of its own, emphasizing the same point it’s been stressing for months: super-delegates “do not vote until July 25,” so they may yet decide to give Sanders the nomination, even if he finishes in second place. Therefore, it may look like Clinton has clinched the nomination, but as the senator claimed last night, this is merely “an illusion.”....

.....Whether or not a person buys into Sanders’ pitch appears to depend largely on whether or not that person wants Sanders to prevail, but there’s an important flaw in the senator’s argument: he used to believe the exact opposite of what he’s saying now.

Eight years ago this week, Sanders endorsed then-Sen. Barack Obama’s candidacy after the Illinois Democrat clinched a majority thanks to a combination of pledged delegates and commitments from party super-delegates.

It didn’t matter, Sanders said at the time, that super-delegates wouldn’t literally vote until the convention – because the outcome was obvious and the results were clear. Obama, Sanders said eight years ago, had won fair and square.....

.....Why was this the right standard in 2008, but the wrong standard in 2016?.....

after which a lame non-answer to the question by a mouthpiece for Methuselah

.....Team Sanders will need a better response, though it’s unclear what that might be.

[franksolich]

Okay, Messalina Agrippina's the declared winner in New Jersey, although no numbers yet.

If this bears out, we can safely ignore the over-covered glamour state tonight, as it no longer counts no matter how it goes.

[franksolich]

now's a good time to remember franksolich's First Rule of Everything:

anything can happen, and usually does

So it's a good time to think about these possibilities:

{a} the old sourassed sourpuss makes a third-party attempt at the presidency; what then?

{b} Messalina Agrippina gets into trouble and gets dumped as the Democrat candidate; what then?

{c} something happens to Donald Trump; what then?

{d} a major terrorist attack on American soil; what then?

{e} Obozo, reluctant to relinquish the presidency, cancels the elections; what then?

[BattleHymn]

now's a good time to remember franksolich's First Rule of Everything:

So it's a good time to think about these possibilities:

{a} the old sourassed sourpuss makes a third-party attempt at the presidency; what then?

{b} Messalina Agrippina gets into trouble and gets dumped as the Democrat candidate; what then?

{c} something happens to Donald Trump; what then?

{d} a major terrorist attack on American soil; what then?

{e} Obozo, reluctant to relinquish the presidency, cancels the elections; what then?

A. He won't run 3rd party.

B. If Cankles gets the boot, expect Slow Joe to get the nod.

C. We can only hope.

D. No clue- too many variables, and I would say it depends on the timing.

E. He likes golfing FAR too much to stay in.

[franksolich]

Messalina Agrippina takes an early lead in South Dakota; it'll probably hold.

<<<bets Methuselah now regrets he paid no attention to South Dakota.

[franksolich]

Messalina Agrippina takes an early lead in New Mexico; that too probably'll hold.

<<<bets Methuselah now regrets he paid no attention at all to New Mexico.

[BattleHymn]

Messalina Agrippina takes an early lead in South Dakota; it'll probably hold.

<<<bets Methuselah now regrets he paid no attention to South Dakota.

I spoke with someone in SD on a work related call the other day.  It sounds like Cankles has SD all tied up.   

[franksolich]

I spoke with someone in SD on a work related call the other day.  It sounds like Cankles has SD all tied up.

Yeah, that was a big mistake on Methuselah's part, and you know why he made it.

New Jersey's dull and grey and industrial, no fun at all.  North Dakota and South Dakota are flat and dreary, no fun at all.  Montana's too sparse, no fun at all.  New Mexico's run down, no fun at all.

The glamour state has surfing.  And that's fun.