primitive asks why he should pay for health care for fat people

[BattleHymn]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1284&pid=923

Over 100 replies!  That's quite a turnout for a group forum.  It's really worth a row over.  I'll bring over a few:

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:47 PM
Star Member scottie55 (1,197 posts)

If You Are Obese And Don't Even Try To Eat Healthy Why Should I Have To Pay For Your Medical Care? [View all]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by w0nderer (a host of the Working Poor group).
I'm serious. Why should I be expected to pay to take care of someone who won't take care of themselves?

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:50 PM
Buzz Clik (37,755 posts)
1. Why have you targeted the obese?
 
Smokers, drug users, base jumpers....

Wed May 11, 2016, 01:08 PM
Star Member peace13 (10,325 posts)
18. I want to say that this OP is a prime example of bullying.

The jury thinks that we can handle it out here and so I will. Comments like this are hateful and not helpful. Your comment can cause a person with body issues to back slide. The damage you do will be unseen and un felt by you because bullies never feel it. Suffice it to say that the system is taking care of the problem and you and your perfect self do not need to worry. If you are overweight your insurance company will be contacting you to encourage you to talk to a stranger on the phone about your issues. You will love it because like this place you will be hidden and faceless and can say whatever you please.

I would like to add that you started this to get a reaction and a fight. You need a friend, you need someone to love you and you have no idea how to make it happen. Why don't you start there on your improvement list instead of hurting others.

Wed May 11, 2016, 01:50 PM
Star Member scottie55 (1,197 posts)
41. Bullying? Really?

I just want an answer.

Why should I pay for the health care of people who eat 5,000 to 10,000 calories a day and wouldn't even consider exercising?

Please answer.

(other groups too I might add)

http://www.fairfoodnetwork.org/connect/blog/obesity-and-rising-cost-healthcare-america

"If obesity rates keep growing, costs associated with obesity will become too large for federal healthcare systems to cover."

Wed May 11, 2016, 12:57 PM
Star Member LisaM (17,099 posts)
8. Because obesity is not a choice and because our food system is set up

so that a lot of the foods that cheaply feed a family aren't always the best nutritional choices. This was brought home sharply to me the other day when I bought basil in an organic grocery store that was $10 a bag. I decided to buy it anyway, but when I left the store I did give a thought to people who only had $10 a week for groceries total and what they could buy with it if they had a couple of kids. Paying that much for organic basic has basically haunted me for a whole week.

I was reading an article about the "Biggest Loser" (a fat-shaming show if there ever was one), and how the people cannot keep the weight off because at some point their own bodies turn against them. They're exercising like crazy, eating under 1000 calories per day, and still gaining weight back.

Obesity is a very complicated issue (as are other things that pose chronic health problems) and I for one don't want to play judge and jury to the people suffering from it.

[thundley4]

8. Because obesity is not a choice and because our food system is set up

so that a lot of the foods that cheaply feed a family aren't always the best nutritional choices. This was brought home sharply to me the other day when I bought basil in an organic grocery store that was $10 a bag.

Bullshit. frozen vegetables are very cheap. Certain cuts of beef and chicken are still relatively cheap. People are lazy and opt for the prepared foods over having to cook.

[BattleHymn]

Bullshit. frozen vegetables are very cheap. Certain cuts of beef and chicken are still relatively cheap. People are lazy and opt for the prepared foods over having to cook.

But if Tobin had to cook something, he might break into a sweat!  I'm waiting for him to turn up in this thread, as he was sort of half-invited:

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:27 PM
Ed Suspicious (8,739 posts)
102. You have no ****ing g idea. Take a walk in any 300 pounders shoes.

And stop acting like a prick.

 

[CollectivismMustDie]

Certain cuts of beef and chicken are still relatively cheap. People are lazy and opt for the prepared foods over having to cook.

And pork too.

I just got back from the local grocer/butcher a few minutes ago.

Prime rib - 5.99 a pound.

New york roast - 4.99 a pound (Cut your own NY strips from them)

Chuck steak - 2.99 a pound.

80/20 pre-pattied beef 1.99 a pound.

Pork tenderloin - 2.99 a pound.

Pork chops - bone in or boneless, 1.99 a pound.

Pork country ribs - .99 a pound.

Bulk bacon - 10 pounds for 14.90

Spiral sliced hams, .99 a pound.

http://www.schmicksmarket.com/

People are lazy and opt for the prepared foods over having to cook.

Exactly. I'd also bet that the (D)Ummies are about as adept at shopping as they are at understanding jonathan gruber.


CMD

[Ken8521]

But if Tobin had to cook something, he might break into a sweat!  I'm waiting for him to turn up in this thread, as he was sort of half-invited:



 

Naa... he won't sweat.. his mother in law replaced his air conditioner for him.

[stjude434]

If they get free Obama food stamps they should have to spend them in a Government store where there isn't junk food. lazy bastards should get off their asses. 

[98ZJUSMC]

Bullshit. frozen vegetables are very cheap. Certain cuts of beef and chicken are still relatively cheap. People are lazy and opt for the prepared foods over having to cook.

*Ding!*  *Ding!*  *Ding!*

[Carl]

The word responsibility has been erased from every DUmbass dictionary.

[franksolich]

If they get free Obama food stamps they should have to spend them in a Government store where there isn't junk food. lazy bastards should get off their asses.

I agree, and have said that for years and years.

Governmentally-operated grocery stores for food stamps only.....and the only stores, period, where one can use food stamps.  Wal-Mart and Hy-Vee and every other grocery giant might squawk because they probably make big bucks off of food stamps, but the times demand harsh measures to cut out waste and corruption.  So tough shit to the businesses that make money off food stamps.

One might whine and complain that there wouldn't be nearly the number of such food stamp stores, as there are grocery stores and convenience stores, but where is it written that there has to be a retail food outlet on every corner?  One doesn't see shoe stores or clothing stores or drug stores on every corner either. 

Getting the necessities of life necessarily entails some time and trouble.

[franksolich]

Hey, thanks for including that link.

The advertising circular in it gives one a glimpse of life in everyday Nebraska outside of Omaha and Lincoln.

I dunno how the prices compare with stores in blue cities and blue states, though, because being only one person, paying much attention to prices isn't imperative.  I just decide what I want to get, and get it, regardless of the cost.  So I dunno; are we cheaper or more expensive than corrupt congested blue areas?

[docstew]

In this thread we see but ONE of the reasons why Obamacare scares us: At some point, some bean counter bureaucrat somewhere IS going to deny ourselves or a loved one medical care because we/they ate the wrong foods, or smoked, or drank, or didn't exercise, or engaged in the wrong recreational activity, or didn't pay our Democrat party dues (just wait long enough, it'll happen). We don't believe the Gov't should have that kind of authority over our lives.

Scratch a liberal, find a fascist.

[landofconfusion80]

You wouldn't even need a dedicated government store. Want to use your food stamps? Fine, there is a dedicated section of the store that keeps the product permissible under the plan. Govt. Cheese, cheap bread, fruits and vegetables that keep for a longer time. If the card doesn't match the name on the drivers license, no soup for you!

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[USA4ME]

In this thread we see but ONE of the reasons why Obamacare scares us: At some point, some bean counter bureaucrat somewhere IS going to deny ourselves or a loved one medical care because we/they ate the wrong foods, or smoked, or drank, or didn't exercise, or engaged in the wrong recreational activity, or didn't pay our Democrat party dues (just wait long enough, it'll happen). We don't believe the Gov't should have that kind of authority over our lives.

Scratch a liberal, find a fascist.

I think you hit upon the heart of the matter. Under liberal policies, eventually the gov't dictates what its citizens can and cannot purchase, what jobs they must hold, where they can travel (if at all), and even the very words that are acceptable. The libs would like ALL retail to be gov't retail, all industry to be gov't industry, etc... They won't admit it, but it is their end goal. The type of people we see on Skin's island and DKos and others are just the idiots the Dem leaders can use to eventually reach their goal.

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[Mugsaway]

Hey Dumbass! Why should I have to pay for Birth Control for some bimbo that won't keep her legs closed?

[jb2u11]

Wouldn't it be just as appropriate to ask "Why do I have to pay for health care for lazy people?"  Cant' lazy people just stop being lazy and pay for their own healthcare?

[CollectivismMustDie]

Hey, thanks for including that link.

The advertising circular in it gives one a glimpse of life in everyday Nebraska outside of Omaha and Lincoln.

I dunno how the prices compare with stores in blue cities and blue states, though, because being only one person, paying much attention to prices isn't imperative.  I just decide what I want to get, and get it, regardless of the cost.  So I dunno; are we cheaper or more expensive than corrupt congested blue areas?

YW Coach.

I'm pretty sure we are MUCH cheaper, at least on meat. I have relatives in MN and WI, and they're paying 12+ a pound for prime rib, and 4-5 bucks a pound for bacon (a tragedy). They also get dinged for 8+ bucks a pound for ny strip and 10+ for ribeye.

I think it is, at least in part, because we are just closer to the source in a lot of ways that effect prices.


CMD

[DumbAss Tanker]

The Tribunal has been made aware of reason to question your patriotism, Comrade Scottie55.  I hope you did not have any plans for the next ten years.

 

[Skul]

If they get free Obama food stamps they should have to spend them in a Government store where there isn't junk food. lazy bastards should get off their asses.

Most excellent.   

[I_B_Perky]

If they get free Obama food stamps they should have to spend them in a Government store where there isn't junk food. lazy bastards should get off their asses.

I agree. These parasites love government so much, they should experience it first hand with something that directly affects their lives.

[jukin]

Why should I have to be forced to pay for anybody's health care other than mine and my family's?

[Big Dog]

Why should I have to be forced to pay for anybody's health care other than mine and my family's?

 

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

I could say the same thing about
a) Recreational drug users,
and b) sexually active gays with AIDS (Including "Bug collectors" who deliberately infect themselves with it) and God knows how many other STDs.
Both are the DUmp's protected groups.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

I could say the same thing about
a) Recreational drug users,
and b) sexually active gays with AIDS (Including "Bug collectors" who deliberately infect themselves with it) and God knows how many other STDs.
Both are the DUmp's protected groups.

And since they're so pro guy going to pee in the girls bathroom, they must be anti-women since womens right to privacy is being blatantly violated and the DUmmies don't care.

Either they're pro pee in the girls bathroom, or they're pro women. They can't be both.

[jukin]

Why should I have to pay for all the inner city Obama sons when they are victims of black male violence?

Seriously, the least that Obama's sons could do is be a little more lethal. Is that too much to ask? Let's keep those ER bills down.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Why should I have to pay for all the inner city Obama sons when they are victims of black male violence?

Seriously, the least that Obama's sons could do is be a little more lethal. Is that too much to ask? Let's keep those ER bills down.

Range practice. 2 to center mass, 1 to the head. That'll keep the ER bills down.