No, Failing To Vote Trump Isn't A Vote For Hillary

[txradioguy]

So , ever since I announced I would never vote for Donald Trump, I’ve received enraged tweets and letters calling me a shill for Hillary Clinton. A vote against Trump, the logic goes, is a vote for Hillary.

This is nonsense, for a variety of reasons.

First, the practical. A vote against Trump is technically half a vote against Hillary and half a vote against Trump. Let’s say that you’re the deciding vote in the presidential election. That’s right – congratulations! Sixty million Americans have voted for Trump, and sixty million have voted for Hillary. You instead cast your vote for Deez Nuts. You did not win the election for Hillary, nor did you lose it for Trump. Your vote didn’t count, essentially. In order for your vote to be a vote for Hillary, you must actually vote for Hillary. This is called elementary logic, for those keeping score at home.

Second, the ideological. Failing to vote for Trump is not a vote for Hillary. It is not even a statement that Hillary would be a better president than Trump. I believe that Trump would likely be a better president than Hillary, because it’s hard to imagine a worse president (other than President Obama). I also believe that Trump would destroy the conservative movement. And I prioritize the survival of conservatism more than beating Hillary Clinton. My top priority isn’t this election, but something more: the future of conservatism in America. That’s precisely what I wrote last week:

In every election cycle, the establishment insists that we unify behind a candidate who does not reflect conservatism because elections are always a choice between the two worst options. They blackmail conservatives into supporting candidates who undermine the message and morality of our mission. Now Trump does the same….Now is the time to say no. “No” is a useful tool. If conservatives don’t say “no” to Nelson Rockefeller in 1964, there is no Ronald Reagan. If conservatives don’t say “no” to Gerald Ford in 1976 and George H.W. Bush in 1980, there is no Ronald Reagan. And if we don’t say “no” to Donald Trump now, we will continue drifting ever further left, diluting conservatism into the vacillating, demagogic absurdity of Trumpism. Conservatism will become the crypto-racist, pseudo-strong, quasi-tyrannical, toxic brew leftists have always accused it of being.

Third, the moral. If Trump loses to Hillary, that’s not on the people who won’t vote for Trump. That’s on Trump and his supporters. It’s odd that all the Trump supporters claiming that Mitt Romney lost because he didn’t appeal to them properly are now blaming conservatives who won’t show up for Trump, even though Trump won’t appeal to them properly. If Trump wants us to show up, he could be conservative. It’s that simple.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/3960/no-failing-vote-trump-isnt-vote-hillary-ben-shapiro

[dixierose]

Ditto and H^5.

[Duke Nukum]

If Trump loses to Hillary it's on Cruz for being a fraud.

Or, maybe Glen Beck for not fasting enough. Or not rolling his face in Cheetos sooner.

Or maybe it's just what the Republican and Democrat elite had planned all along.

At any rate, your much anticipated 'I told you so,' is going to lack all impact 'cause everyone will be like: You never stopped telling us so, Cassandra.

Cruz isn't going to be jumping out from behind some potted plant at the convention.  I got a solicitation from him yesterday to fund his senate career.


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[landofconfusion80]

I voted libertarian in the last presidential. It might not have stood a chance, but my conscience was never better. I've talked to many people this time around that arent thrilled with hillary or trump and will be going libertarian this time

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[txradioguy]

If Trump loses to Hillary it's on Cruz for being a fraud.

Or, maybe Glen Beck for not fasting enough. Or not rolling his face in Cheetos sooner.

Or maybe it's just what the Republican and Democrat elite had planned all along.

At any rate, your much anticipated 'I told you so,' is going to lack all impact 'cause everyone will be like: You never stopped telling us so, Cassandra.

Cruz isn't going to be jumping out from behind some potted plant at the convention.  I got a solicitation from him yesterday to fund his senate career.


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How is this any different that Obama blaming Bush for the failures of his policies?   Seriously.

Do you realize what a childish train of thought that is?

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[FlaGator]

Failing to vote for Trump is doing your part to definitely make the SCOTUS a liberal judicial body and then you can kiss this country goodbye. Far more important than who lives in the White House.

[Fourwinds]

Failing to vote for Trump is doing your part to definitely make the SCOTUS a liberal judicial body and then you can kiss this country goodbye. Far more important than who lives in the White House.

After eight years of Obama I fear nothing. Trump gets my vote.

[SighLass]

No need to explain myself... just #nevertrump

Saved the viewers here a couple of minutes in the expedient explanation too.

[nomad54]

No need to explain myself... just #nevertrump

Saved the viewers here a couple of minutes in the expedient explanation too.

Lol, just the opposite for me, #neverhillary.

At this point, I'd vote for Trump's dog-at least the dog wouldn't be going out of his way to ruin the country further. 

[Duke Nukum]

How is this any different that Obama blaming Bush for the failures of his policies?   Seriously.

Do you realize what a childish train of thought that is?

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I was simply riffing off your childish train of thought.

[Big Dog]

Lol, just the opposite for me, #neverhillary.

At this point, I'd vote for Trump's dog-at least the dog wouldn't be going out of his way to ruin the country further.

Is the dog eligible? Because I'd vote for a dog for President.

[BlueStateSaint]

Failing to vote for Trump is doing your part to definitely make the SCOTUS a liberal judicial body and then you can kiss this country goodbye. Far more important than who lives in the White House.

Exactly.  It's the realistic view.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Bingo.  No matter how moderate/lib Trump's picks might prove to be, Hitlery's would be worse.

[SighLass]

Lol, just the opposite for me, #neverhillary.

At this point, I'd vote for Trump's dog-at least the dog wouldn't be going out of his way to ruin the country further. 

Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly. Proverbs 26-11

Nope... been there done that (voted for a conservative in name only)...

The problem with Trump is he keeps returning to his leftist side because he never really had a conservative side (NY values). It is all new to him. He suddenly this election says he is conservative, but when interviewed and he lets his guard down, he shows us what is truly underneath. Just like he did the other day with transvestites going to restrooms. Just like he did with Planned Parenthood. He is a populist. Eventually to try to garner votes he will start riding the fence. Like Hillary suddenly pretending to like coal. When it is like lukewarm, all you want to do is spew.

We all here are #neverHillary. I doubt you could find someone here that will vote Hillary if you tortured them. But associating not voting for Hillary as voting for her is dishonest.

But I will not be voting for some conspiracy theory idiot (Latest is Cruz's father helped Lee Harvey Oswald). No WMD and Bush is responsible for 9/11 crap. I can't stand McCain, but blaming him for being captured while dodging the draft (bone spurs my butt) is ludicrous.

The man is a ticking time bomb. I will not have my name as one that came close to claiming him as worthy of my vote. Sometimes there is none worthy of the vote and this is turning out to be one of those times.

[BlueStateSaint]

Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly. Proverbs 26-11

Nope... been there done that (voted for a conservative in name only)...

The problem with Trump is he keeps returning to his leftist side because he never really had a conservative side (NY values). It is all new to him. He suddenly this election says he is conservative, but when interviewed and he lets his guard down, he shows us what is truly underneath. Just like he did the other day with transvestites going to restrooms. Just like he did with Planned Parenthood. He is a populist. Eventually to try to garner votes he will start riding the fence. Like Hillary suddenly pretending to like coal. When it is like lukewarm, all you want to do is spew.

We all here are #neverHillary. I doubt you could find someone here that will vote Hillary if you tortured them. But associating not voting for Hillary as voting for her is dishonest.

But I will not be voting for some conspiracy theory idiot (Latest is Cruz's father helped Lee Harvey Oswald). No WMD and Bush is responsible for 9/11 crap. I can't stand McCain, but blaming him for being captured while dodging the draft (bone spurs my butt) is ludicrous.

The man is a ticking time bomb. I will not have my name as one that came close to claiming him as worthy of my vote. Sometimes there is none worthy of the vote and this is turning out to be one of those times.

I'd rather take a chance on Trump and find out that he actually has changed and become more conservative, rather than vote for a third-party candidate that has zero chance of winning, and find out that HilLIARy is further to the Left than Obama or Sanders ever were.

That's the choice, as I see it.  Like your guns?  Again, I would much rather take my chances on Trump and his SCOTUS nominees, than HilLIARy and her SCOTUS nominees.  HilLIARy will continue Obama's legacy of executive action overreach if she doesn't get what she wants, and if you don't think that the 2nd Amendment isn't squarely in her sights, you're delusional.  Merrick Garland, Obama's nominee to replace Antonin Scalia, has expressed a desire to revisit the Heller decision, which the McDonald v. Chicago decision is based on.  He wants to overturn it.  Do you want to be associated with that?  HilLIARy will choose SCOTUS nominees that will be worse, if there's such a thing.  She has advocated Australia-style gun confiscation.  Are you okay with allowing a SCOTUS that would allow that?

That is what is at stake here.

[Texacon]

Trump was not even my fourth pick, but he's got my vote. It sucks, but he won. Nuff said.

KC


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[Patriot Guard Rider]

I'd rather take a chance on Trump and find out that he actually has changed and become more conservative, rather than vote for a third-party candidate that has zero chance of winning, and find out that HilLIARy is further to the Left than Obama or Sanders ever were.

That's the choice, as I see it.  Like your guns?  Again, I would much rather take my chances on Trump and his SCOTUS nominees, than HilLIARy and her SCOTUS nominees.  HilLIARy will continue Obama's legacy of executive action overreach if she doesn't get what she wants, and if you don't think that the 2nd Amendment isn't squarely in her sights, you're delusional.  Merrick Garland, Obama's nominee to replace Antonin Scalia, has expressed a desire to revisit the Heller decision, which the McDonald v. Chicago decision is based on.  He wants to overturn it.  Do you want to be associated with that?  HilLIARy will choose SCOTUS nominees that will be worse, if there's such a thing.  She has advocated Australia-style gun confiscation.  Are you okay with allowing a SCOTUS that would allow that?

That is what is at stake here.

H5 earned and issued.

[RobJohnson]

Trump was not even my fourth pick, but he's got my vote. It sucks, but he won. Nuff said.

KC


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Voting for Trump is the only thing I can do to help make sure Hillary does not win.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Voting for Trump is the only thing I can do to help make sure Hillary does not win.

Agreed and with his recent statement that who uses what bathrooms belongs at the state level, his understanding of the 10th amendment is so far right of the "conservatives" currently in congress it's ridiculous.

I'm STILL waiting for the outrage from congress over his decree. Don't see it happenin..

[Adam Wood]

Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly. Proverbs 26-11

Nope... been there done that (voted for a conservative in name only)...

The problem with Trump is he keeps returning to his leftist side because he never really had a conservative side (NY values). It is all new to him. He suddenly this election says he is conservative, but when interviewed and he lets his guard down, he shows us what is truly underneath. Just like he did the other day with transvestites going to restrooms. Just like he did with Planned Parenthood. He is a populist. Eventually to try to garner votes he will start riding the fence. Like Hillary suddenly pretending to like coal. When it is like lukewarm, all you want to do is spew.

We all here are #neverHillary. I doubt you could find someone here that will vote Hillary if you tortured them. But associating not voting for Hillary as voting for her is dishonest.

But I will not be voting for some conspiracy theory idiot (Latest is Cruz's father helped Lee Harvey Oswald). No WMD and Bush is responsible for 9/11 crap. I can't stand McCain, but blaming him for being captured while dodging the draft (bone spurs my butt) is ludicrous.

The man is a ticking time bomb. I will not have my name as one that came close to claiming him as worthy of my vote. Sometimes there is none worthy of the vote and this is turning out to be one of those times.

This. A million times over, this.

Trump is a Leftist authoritarian. That is an undeniable fact that the Trump cult keeps trying to deny. I have no interest in casting my vote for an authoritarian Leftist. We've already tried that for most of eight years, and it's been a disaster.

Anyone who denies that Trump will simply be the third Obama term is nothing but a fool. Sorry if that offends, but that's just simple reality.

For myself, I will be pushing for Austin Petersen on the Libertarian ballot. If he doesn't make it, then I'll still quite happily vote for Gary Johnson. And on the morning of November 9, I'll have no problem at all looking right in the eye of the guy shaving across from me.



One way or the other, though, the GOP is dead. They have demonstrated beyond any hint of a doubt that they are not in any way a conservative party anymore. Trump, the titular head of the GOP, has specifically said that he doesn't want or need my vote. So be it, because it's not forthcoming.  People like me will no longer be held hostage to a party that warmly embraces us, telling us how they'll represent our values, while slipping the knife between our ribs.

[Texacon]

Voting for Trump is the only thing I can do to help make sure Hillary does not win.

That's how I feel. It's the only thing I feel like I can do, but I can't imagine that treasonous bitch sitting in the White House.

KC

[CollectivismMustDie]

I think that Trump is someone that must be endured, if we are to keep clinton out of the white house and end her political career.




CMD

[Big Dog]

This. A million times over, this.

Trump is a Leftist authoritarian. That is an undeniable fact that the Trump cult keeps trying to deny. I have no interest in casting my vote for an authoritarian Leftist. We've already tried that for most of eight years, and it's been a disaster.

Anyone who denies that Trump will simply be the third Obama term is nothing but a fool. Sorry if that offends, but that's just simple reality.

For myself, I will be pushing for Austin Petersen on the Libertarian ballot. If he doesn't make it, then I'll still quite happily vote for Gary Johnson. And on the morning of November 9, I'll have no problem at all looking right in the eye of the guy shaving across from me.



One way or the other, though, the GOP is dead. They have demonstrated beyond any hint of a doubt that they are not in any way a conservative party anymore. Trump, the titular head of the GOP, has specifically said that he doesn't want or need my vote. So be it, because it's not forthcoming.  People like me will no longer be held hostage to a party that warmly embraces us, telling us how they'll represent our values, while slipping the knife between our ribs.

I met Gary Johnson three years ago, and Austin Peterson earlier this year. I'd happily vote for either. I don't know enough about John McAfee to endorse him.

I met three other candidates two weeks ago at our state convention. Nice folks with good ideas, but they won't have the votes in Orlando for the nomination.

[Belle]

The choice for those considering Trump should be simple.
Do you prefer a globalist vs. a nationalist?

[Wineslob]

I'd rather take a chance on Trump and find out that he actually has changed and become more conservative, rather than vote for a third-party candidate that has zero chance of winning, and find out that HilLIARy is further to the Left than Obama or Sanders ever were.

That's the choice, as I see it.  Like your guns?  Again, I would much rather take my chances on Trump and his SCOTUS nominees, than HilLIARy and her SCOTUS nominees.  HilLIARy will continue Obama's legacy of executive action overreach if she doesn't get what she wants, and if you don't think that the 2nd Amendment isn't squarely in her sights, you're delusional.  Merrick Garland, Obama's nominee to replace Antonin Scalia, has expressed a desire to revisit the Heller decision, which the McDonald v. Chicago decision is based on.  He wants to overturn it.  Do you want to be associated with that?  HilLIARy will choose SCOTUS nominees that will be worse, if there's such a thing.  She has advocated Australia-style gun confiscation.  Are you okay with allowing a SCOTUS that would allow that?

That is what is at stake here.

This. No, Trump is no walk in the park, but I'll be damned if I GIVE the vote to Clintoon because I'm pissy that a dyed-in-the-wool Repug didn't get on the ballot.

And, tell me, have the Republicans given ANY of us reason to vote for them?