Bernie bullies still playing with numbers

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511920037

Oh my.

silvershadow (8,022 posts)    Sat May 7, 2016, 06:15 PM

Latest Delegate Count: (Also, Clinton narrowly won Guam for a gain of 1).
 
https://johnlaurits.com/2016/05/07/the-after-math-guam/

Gomez163 (873 posts)  Sat May 7, 2016, 06:16 PM 

1. Bogus count. Doesn't include superdelegates.

silvershadow (8,022 posts)    Sat May 7, 2016, 06:17 PM

2. They haven't voted yet.

Gomez163 (873 posts)    Sat May 7, 2016, 06:18 PM

3. Nor have the pledged delegates. Not buying the Bernie spin.

Hortensis (6,955 posts)    Sun May 8, 2016, 12:55 AM

32. Bernie CANNOT get enough delegates to win.
 
That milestone was passed with Indiana. He needs more than are still available.

And no to the superdelegate fantasy. Not going to happen. 

virtualobserver (6,972 posts)    Sun May 8, 2016, 01:08 AM

33. he only has to win a majority of pledged delegates..
 
the supers will not override that.

Hortensis (6,955 posts)    Sun May 8, 2016, 02:14 AM

36. He CANNOT. Since Indiana he needs more delegates than
 
are still out there to win. If he had won 100% of Washington State's delegates and won 100% of California and all the other states still to vote, they still would not be enough to get him to the magic number.

For him, the election part of it is over. Hillary still has to pick up a few more delegates, but she only needs a fraction of the ones still available. At the convention Hillary will be nominated.

Bernie no longer pretends he could win by wooing superdelegates, which was always impossible. He instead promises to fight to get his progressive ideas into the party platform. He also wants a plank for open primaries. 

CrowCityDem (675 posts)    Sat May 7, 2016, 06:44 PM

9. Narrow? She won Guam 60-40, four times the Indiana margin.

Fla Dem (5,437 posts)    Mon May 9, 2016, 09:48 AM

42. For Bernie, a narrow loss, is as good as a huge loss. He has to win delegates by 70% or more to
 
ever pull ahead.

There are 1102 delegates remaining after Guam.

BS currently has 1420 regular delegates.

IF he were to win even 60% of the remaining delegates he would be at 2081 delegates.

HRC currently has 1705 regular delegates.

If she was to win only 40% of the remaining delegates she would have 2146 delegates.

BS is not going to win 70% of the remaining delegates, nor 60% and not 50%.

The math just does not work for him no matter how you crunch the numbers.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/

Even the article says BS has to win 65% of the remaining votes and that's just not going to happen. So any election he doesn't win by at least 65% is a loss for him.

joshcryer (55,819 posts)    Sat May 7, 2016, 09:01 PM

22. Ironically, Guam's superdelegates go with the popular vote.
 
So they just announced their support for her today.

Tiggeroshii (4,548 posts)    Sun May 8, 2016, 01:26 AM

35. As should the delegates from every state. It's just the right thing to do, and I am glad they are
 
setting that example.

Now how about all the super delegates in Washington, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Colorado, Vermont, Maine, Indiana, Wisconsin, Rhode Island, Michigan, Wyoming, Utah, Nebraska, Kansas, Idaho, Alaska and Minnesota do the same?

And in fairness, the few in the states that Clinton won who support Bernie should also do that. =)

Buzz cook (918 posts)    Sun May 8, 2016, 03:21 AM

37. If supers had to vote with their states Bernie would still be behind.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/12/what-would-happen-if-superdelegates-had-to-vote-for-the-candidate-who-won-their-state/

Seriously don't you know how to google?

No, the Bernie bullies don't.

It's just easier for them to make things up in their heads, than to look them up.

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Ironically, Guam's superdelegates go with the popular vote.

Tiggeroshii (4,548 posts)    Sun May 8, 2016, 01:26 AM
35. As should the delegates from every state.

Which would defeat the purpose of superdelegates - sensible people who represent the best interests of the party rather than the ignorant rabble.
All delegates should be superdelegates.