Berniebots Bless Guccifer

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paulthompson (2,327 posts)   Wed May 4, 2016, 11:26 PM

About Guccifer's new hacking claim

Guccifer hacked into Sid Blumenthal's emails on March 15, 2013, and found out about Clinton's emails and her clintonemail.com server that way.

It's not clear when Pagliano stopped managing her server - it could be that nobody was managing it for a few months. But by June 2013, the Colorado company Platte River Networks took over managing the server and Pagliano was definitely out of the picture. Then this happened:

June 2013 to October 2013: During this time, it appears that Clinton's private server is wide open to hacking attempts. On May 31, 2013, maintenance of the server was taken over by a small Colorado-based company called Platte River Networks, and the server is sent to a data center in New Jersey. Platte River Networks then pays to use threat monitoring software called CloudJacket SMB made by a company named SECNAP. SECNAP claims the software can foil "even the most determined hackers." However, the new software doesn't begin working until October, apparently leaving the server vulnerable. It is known that the server is repeatedly attacked by hackers in the months from October 2013 on, but it is unknown if any attacks occur when the software is not yet installed. Justin Harvey, chief security officer of a cybersecurity company, will later comment that Clinton "essentially circumvented millions of dollars' worth of cybersecurity investment that the federal government puts within the State Department. ... She wouldn't have had the infrastructure to detect or respond to cyber attacks from a nation-state. Those attacks are incredibly sophisticated, and very hard to detect and contain. And if you have a private server, it's very likely that you would be compromised." (The Associated Press, 10/7/2015)


Then the software was finally installed and this happened:

October 2013 to February 2014: Clinton's private email server is the subject of repeated attempted cyber attacks, originating from China, South Korea, and Germany. The attempts are foiled due to threat monitoring software installed in October. However, from June to October 2013, her server is not protected by this software, and there is no way of knowing if there were successful attacks during that time. A 2014 email from an employee of SECNAP, the company that makes the threat monitoring software, describes four attacks. But investigators will later find evidence of a fifth attack from around this time. Three are linked to China, one to South Korea, and one to Germany. It is not known if foreign governments are involved or how sophisticated the attacks are. Clinton had ended her term as secretary of state in February 2013, but more than 60,000 of her emails remained on her server. (The Associated Press, 10/7/2015)


So the claim that there was no evidence of hacking attempts clearly only refers to the time Bryan Pagliano was managing the server. Afterwards, with the domain name broadcast to the world through the Guccifer hack story (which was reported at the time in Gawker, the Russian Times, and other media outlets), incredibly, Clinton did not shut down her server or take her emails from her time as secretary of state off it. She did change emails, but to a different account on the same server (it went from hdr22@clintonemail.com to hrod17@clintonemail.com).

Whether Guccifer got into her server then, I don't know. But it defies belief that nobody did, when the server was wide open to hacking attempts not long after the Guccifer hack revealed clintonemail.com was where Clinton stored all her emails. If the Russians, Chinese, and other foreign government didn't scoop up all her emails then, they were totally incompetent.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511902710

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From the acute care unit at a nursing home:

grasswire (48,035 posts)    Wed May 4, 2016, 11:32 PM

2. thanks for the review, Paul.
 
Please also note that we are cautioning readers to remember Dan Rather's experience and proceed with caution when trying to evaluate Guccifer's claims. It would be very easy for David Brock to rat**** with some facet of this matter.

grasswire (48,035 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 12:11 PM

92. Do you want to make this an OP?
 
The townhall link will bring you some grief. But this is really important stuff for everyone to see. Even Hillary supporters should be seeing what the rest of the world is reading.

Now, Judy is clearly fooling herself; only the Bernie bullies on Skins's island are reading this stuff, not "the rest of the world."

ucrdem (9,159 posts)    Thu May 5, 2016, 03:14 AM

42. Frankly Nancy Regan's astrologer has more credibility.
 
This is really not a story you want to hang your hopes on.

Pay attention, Judy.

[Chris_]

Foul-mouthed old cow.

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Suddenly they DO care about Hillary's "damn" email:

paulthompson (2,327 posts)
30. Indeed

It's been pointed out that even if she'd used Gmail or Yahoo mail, her email would have been much more secure, because they spend a lot of time and money on security. Clinton basically had one guy (Bryan Pagliano) managing the server who had a full time job in another state who appears not to have really known what he was doing. There have been numerous articles about how poor the security was. For instance, the first two months Clinton was secretary of state, her server had no encryption on it at all! And this was while she traveled to about a dozen countries using her BlackBerry, including China. You literally could not do worse than have NO security.

Then, after Pagliano left, she handed management to a company called Platte River Networks. They were like your neighborhood mom 'n pop computer repair shop. They operated out of an apartment in an apartment building, and didn't even have an alarm system! And yet Clinton trusted them with emails that turned out to contain top secret and even above top secret information.

It truly boggles the mind. Anyone who claims that Clinton's private server could have been safer than the State Department simply don't know what they're talking about. Maybe in theory that could be true, if it had been done right with an entire team of experts managing it, but the way it was actually done was amateur hour all the way.