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Oh my.

It's always good to get illumination from the eminence grise of Skins's island.

Alas, while sane and rational people might listen to him, the Bernie bullies won't.

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MineralMan (83,452 posts)    Wed May 4, 2016, 03:42 PM

New Jersey and California.
 
Despite the wishful claims of some Sanders supporters, Sanders will not win in those two states by any large margin, if he can win them at all. And, without winning by a large margin, the two states have more than enough pledged delegates to put Clinton over the top in pledged delegates.

And then, there are Puerto Rico and DC. Again, Sanders cannot win big, if at all, in either of those.

Right now, NJ polls with Hillary having a large lead. CA, too polls with Hillary as the winner. Now, even if Sanders erases that lead and ties those states, or wins with a small margin, proportional allocation will push Clinton over the top.

I can't, for the life of me, see Bernie getting a majority of pledged delegates, given those four races. I just can't.

Plus, Hillary Clinton will get pledged delegates to add to her total from every other state, too, even ones she loses. The margins that are possible for Sanders simply aren't large enough, by far.

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politicaljunkie41910 (951 posts)    Wed May 4, 2016, 03:47 PM

3. I agree. Both states are highly taxed already and don't want to see their taxes increased even more
 
to pay for Bernie's revolution.

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MineralMan (83,452 posts)    Wed May 4, 2016, 03:48 PM

5. I'm not sure that's why, actually.
 
It's more the demographics.

Of course he doesn't see it that way.  Like all other Democrats, liberals, and primitives, the mineral-headed Minnesota Moses thinks the problem is that too many selfish people would like to keep as much of their own money as possible, instead of giving it to the government.

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politicaljunkie41910 (951 posts)    Wed May 4, 2016, 03:59 PM

10. That's my reason. I pay some of the highest taxes in a state with one of the highest cost of living
 
My husband and I worked hard, saved and sent our children to college and paid for our own health care insurance. We did it by making sacrifices in other areas, i.e. new cars, vacations, that many people both Dems and GOP chose not to and now want other people to pay for when Bernie knows he can never get this passed through Congress. 

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Garrett78 (1,346 posts)    Wed May 4, 2016, 04:00 PM

12. CA, NJ and DC account for 2/3rds of the remaining delegates.
 
As much nonsense as I've seen posted on this site, I still find it hard to believe that anyone honestly thinks Sanders will end up with more pledged delegates. Clinton will undoubtedly end up with a greater margin of victory over Sanders than Obama had over Clinton in 2008.

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IamMab (1,141 posts)    Wed May 4, 2016, 04:03 PM

13. Sanders has already crossed into "Needs more than 100% of remaining delegates to win" territory.
 
#BernieSoMath

Try telling that to idiot girl over there on Manny's jackass message board.
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Re: mineral-headed Minnesota Moses describes New Jersey, California
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 08:21:03 PM »
For the little it's worth, I've seen LOTS of Bernie signs and stickers, and VERY few for Hillary. One house I saw yesterday had one of each candidate's signs.
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Re: mineral-headed Minnesota Moses describes New Jersey, California
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 08:53:15 PM »
For the little it's worth, I've seen LOTS of Bernie signs and stickers, and VERY few for Hillary. One house I saw yesterday had one of each candidate's signs.

Seems the same where I am in NH.  Bernie signs a plenty but no Hillary.   :overreaction:  From the look of things she'd have to tie a pork chop round her neck to get the dog to play with her.  'Course Sanders ain't no prize pig either, I mean really. :rotf:
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Re: mineral-headed Minnesota Moses describes New Jersey, California
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 09:11:43 PM »
My new neighbors have a Bernie yard sign.  They let their dog run around the neighborhood unsupervised during the day.

I haven't seen a Hillary sticker since 2008.
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Re: mineral-headed Minnesota Moses describes New Jersey, California
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2016, 03:57:38 AM »
My new neighbors have a Bernie yard sign.  They let their dog run around the neighborhood unsupervised during the day.

I haven't seen a Hillary sticker since 2008.

I saw one last night in a college area near where I live.  I had to mention it to my wife, it was such a rare occurrence. :whistling:
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