Skin's gets called out for wife's Clinton connnection

[USA4ME]

Where's PJ?

Skinner
 
The Democratic Primary Ruined My Friendship!
 
Perhaps if we contemplate how pointless and unnecessary it is for other people to lose friends over their preferred primary candidate, then we get a little perspective on our own situation here on DU...

(blah, blah, blah....)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1860487

Skin's trying to keep all the sheep in line so they'll continue to grow wool for him.

But then there's this...

lumberjack_jeff

44. Skinner, we've hung out together for thirteen years.
 
If you and I could sit down over a beer, I'd tell you this:

I get that the relationship isn't symmetrical, it's mostly a business/customer relationship... kinda. I know that as a site that is free to me, I'm not really a customer, but my eyes, and the words I type are the product being sold.

I'm fine with that because I felt that we had a shared purpose in... not so much promoting the Democratic party as a jersey or a logo, but promoting progressive change through the Democratic party.

... But there was a competing agenda at work; the party was also being used as a vehicle to promote oligarchy and to enrich families through influence peddling; the purchasing of superdelegates in the guise of "helping downticket", money laundering by exploiting citizens united and superpacs to their full capacity.

When I heard that you have a personal financial stake in the success of that family, I was concerned that I'd been sold out. That what I understood to be our shared agenda had been abandoned.

I appreciate that you haven't... what? Banned Sanders supporters? Not quite sure what the "call it" folks have in mind actually, but I think it would be a show of good faith for you to explain (or deny) the family connection to the Clinton campaign, and to talk about the measures you've taken to be fair with your community, approximately 70% of whom supported Bernie.

"When I heard that you have a personal financial stake in the success of that family, I was concerned that I'd been sold out."

He does, and you have.    But you being sold out by Skin's has been going on since 2001. You being sold out by the Dem party has been going on your whole miserable life.

"...but I think it would be a show of good faith for you to explain (or deny) the family connection to the Clinton campaign..."

I bet you would.     

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[Carl]

The funny thing is that these mooks actually think the political machine they genuflect to actually gives a shit about them.

[fatboy]

"Mongo just a pawn in game of life"

[USA4ME]

NanceGreggs

231. The DemocraticUnderground ruined my friendship ...

With all due respect, Skinner, you – and you alone, as the sole owner of this site – have allowed the ruination of many “friendships”, along with the ruination of a sense of community and common purpose right here on DU.

When you initiated the jury system, and declared that those juries would set the community standards, you put the site into the hands of people who have often allowed the most vile political and personal attacks to stand.

And so those “community standards” set the tone. If someone calls your candidate a vicious name and it’s voted to be left alone, you can be damned sure someone is going to respond in kind, which elicits another vitriol-laden reply, which prompts another vile response – and on and on it goes.

You allowed this to happen. You allowed “random jurors” to leave some of the most disgusting posts imaginable – and according to their decisions that have been posted here – a leave or a hide vote is often based on whether a juror “likes” or “doesn’t like” the poster who’s been alerted on, or which candidate the alerted-on poster is known to support.

You stood by and did nothing while demeaning attacks – on the candidates, on the Democratic Party, and on DU members personally – were deemed “acceptable” by your juries. You did nothing when these attacks escalated. You did nothing. So it’s kind of difficult to buy into the “can’t we all just get along” meme when you did nothing to stop the infighting, the vitriol, the personal attacks.

Yes, friendships have been ruined here – because “community standards” dictated that posters could say whatever they wanted without fear – which, in turn, encouraged people to say things in terms they normally wouldn’t use – which, in turn, led to people replying in terms they normally wouldn’t use.

You could have stopped this a long time ago. You could have over-ridden juries that voted to leave incredibly vile posts. You could have deleted those posts, regardless of a jury’s decision. You could have made it clear that juries or no juries, certain things were NOT permitted on this site.

But you didn’t. You stood by and did nothing.

Nance is a drunk and a really poor writer. But she did just admit that the primitives are a bunch of untamed animals who, left to their own oversight, can't be trusted to behave maturely. Without an authority figure, they will devour each other. Nance just said as much.

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[Carl]

Nance is a vicious and vile scrunt that could have virtually every stupid thing she writes hidden if there were any standards at all.

Little does it know that its entire sense of happiness has been in the hands of those of us moling the island of misfit retards.

[Delmar]

Nance is a drunk and a really poor writer. But she did just admit that the primitives are a bunch of untamed animals who, left to their own oversight, can't be trusted to behave maturely. Without an authority figure, they will devour each other. Nance just said as much.

Is ibegurpard your mole or could this be just about anybody?

Response to ibegurpard (Reply #293)Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:19 AM
NanceGreggs (20,123 posts)
302. I happen to be "sitting in a country" ...

... where I have great healthcare. And this is my great sin? It is "obscene" for me to be here?

I am supporting politicians who are "fighting against" healthcare? Really? Name them.

I am "leeching your birthright"? You sound like a distraught character from a Bronte novel, or perhaps Austen in one of her darker moods.

I am "denying my own countrymen the same"? Sweet Jesus, I had NO idea just how powerful I am.

Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #302)Fri Apr 29, 2016, 03:29 AM
ibegurpard (14,958 posts)
304. name them?

Hillary Clinton

And you probably shouldn't be referring to universally - regarded classic authors...it just draws negative comparisons to your own literary shortcomings.

[CollectivismMustDie]

When I heard that you have a personal financial stake in the success of that family, I was concerned that I'd been sold out. That what I understood to be our shared agenda had been abandoned.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j3_DUqKyTk[/youtube]

(good tune too)

 


CMD

[zeitgeist]

DUmmies better beware , apparently Skinner has issued an edict that the ban hammer will be wielded shortly on those who do not toe the  party line.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/1280188516

Autumn (28,734 posts)

FYI. An interesting post by Skinner in ATA

Skinner (61,542 posts)
1. Advocating third party will definitely get people banned during the general election.

Simply stating an intent, in a polite way that does not tear down the nominee -- Not sure.

Strictly speaking, yes, the TOS states that members are never permitted to advocate third party. "Never" means never and does not have an exception for primary season. But when faced with the prospect of banning half of my members, most of whom are going to regain their sanity once the primary is over and will undoubtedly do the right thing, we decided to give people the benefit of the doubt and let them stick around.

True story: I have sent a number of alerts on the third-party advocacy thing, and I have stated in the alert that it is a clear TOS violation, and on more than one occasion smug jurors tell me to "go read the TOS."

I am convinced that almost here nobody knows what the TOS actually says. It's kind of like the Bible -- it says whatever people think it says, and reading it is totally beside the point. That is something we are going to change once the primaries are over. I suspect some people will be shocked to learn what it actually says
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Please keep that in mind if you want to stick around once the primary is over. .

And there you have it boys and girls, first call to colors. You better scurry below deck or be prepared to stand at attention while the flag goes up!!   

[Chris_]

It's kind of like the Bible -- it says whatever people think it says, and reading it is totally beside the point.

Coming from a website packed with militant atheists and anti-Christian bigots, I found this particularly funny.

[pjcomix]

DUmmies better beware , apparently Skinner has issued an edict that the ban hammer will be wielded shortly on those who do not toe the  party line.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/1280188516

And a little further down that thread, a DUmmie flings Shelly Moskwa into Skinner's face:

Skinner's wife is Shelly Moskwa

She is linked to the HRC campaign in an official capacity.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/1280188516#post53

[GOBUCKS]

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:01 PM
Star Member grasswire (47,815 posts)
51. HEY! It's gonna be a hoot!

We can talk about her elegance, and her coif, and her pumps, and her couture!

You want to miss that??

Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:20 PM
Star Member grasswire (47,815 posts)
57. but wait!!

She might bark for us. I really do like to hear that. Really. It makes me laugh a lot. When she barks, I bark too!

Poor addled DUmmy grasswipe Judy Smith sure is a gracious loser.

[DUmpsterDiver]

Skin it back, once it gets flaccid...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3vve8LZAJw

[CollectivismMustDie]

Skins:

I am convinced that almost here nobody knows what the TOS actually says. It's kind of like the Bible -- it says whatever people think it says, and reading it is totally beside the point. That is something we are going to change once the primaries are over. I suspect some people will be shocked to learn what it actually says

You mean, simply identifying as someone that has read the TOS isn't enough? You're going to be a busy boy, Skins.


CMD

[txradioguy]

DUmmies better beware , apparently Skinner has issued an edict that the ban hammer will be wielded shortly on those who do not toe the  party line.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/1280188516
Please keep that in mind if you want to stick around once the primary is over. .


And there you have it boys and girls, first call to colors. You better scurry below deck or be prepared to stand at attention while the flag goes up!!   

Took longer this time than it did back in 2008 for $kimmer to threaten bannings for those who decide to vote how they want to instead of how they are told to.

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[SVPete]

It's kind of like the Bible -- it says whatever people think it says, and reading it is totally beside the point.

Coming from a website packed with militant atheists and anti-Christian bigots, I found this particularly funny.

And his two sentences after that one compound that irony:

That is something we are going to change once the primaries are over. I suspect some people will be shocked to learn what it actually says

A similar time of judgment is coming for those who treat the Bible as a source for magic mantras and gotcha-moments, and the consequences will be far worse than a choice between crow-phagy or banhood.

[pjcomix]

Tell it, Skinner. Tell your fellow DUmmies how you BETRAYED them by taking Clinton Cash while pretending to be a neutral arbiter in DUmmieland.

Tell it, Skinner. Tell them what many already know. That you have been CORRUPTED by CORRUPTLY accepting Clinton Cash via your wife, Shelly Moskwa.

Tell it, Skinner.