Indonesia's killing fields (1965 mass murder of 1.5 million suspected communist

[Ptarmigan]

Indonesia's killing fields (1965 mass murder of 1.5 million suspected communists)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016144922

DUmmies are still obsessing about the Cold War. 

This one puts them in a quandary despite the fact that millions of Communists and leftists were liquidated by Muslims. The PKI was the largest Communist party outside of Soviet Union and China. It was the largest non-ruling Communist party in the world and it was destroyed.

Mika (17,118 posts)

Indonesia's killing fields (1965 mass murder of 1.5 million suspected communists)



Indonesia's killing fields

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Suddenly, anti-communist lynch mobs were on the streets of Jakarta. And in the countryside, army-backed mobs went on the rampage, settling old scores.
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Meanwhile, in the towns and cities, there were sweeps against the urban intelligentsia.

Thousands were taken from their homes, interrogated and tortured.

Within 18 months, General Suharto had not just liquidated the Communist Party, he had seized political power, marginalising and then wresting the presidency from the man who had led Indonesia to independence - President Sukarno.



Entire article http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/3715851.stm

How do you feel that Muslims were slaying commies?

shadowmayor (420 posts)
4. East Timor

The bloodbath rolled into East Timor with the backing of Kissinger and Ford (first) and the genocide began under Reagan with approval from Wolfowitz (he was our man in Jakarta). War criminals all, haters gotta hate, and war criminals gotta keep killing darker skinned people around the world. And in America, they never go to jail. Instead, they get a seat at Charlie Rose's table to broadcast their propaganda through our TV machines.

DUmmies have it for Henry Kissinger! 

noretreatnosurrender (1,870 posts)
5. Sick Isn't It

Yes they do or they get another crack at advising a presidential candidate on foreign policy. I can't tell you how sick to my stomach it makes me feel seeing Kissinger as a valued member of team Clinton. And - And that her supporters don't care.

[I_B_Perky]

Mika (17,118 posts)

Indonesia's killing fields (1965 mass murder of 1.5 million suspected communists)



Indonesia's killing fields

{snips}

Suddenly, anti-communist lynch mobs were on the streets of Jakarta. And in the countryside, army-backed mobs went on the rampage, settling old scores.
<->
Meanwhile, in the towns and cities, there were sweeps against the urban intelligentsia.

Heed those words dummies. If you get the socialist communist revolution you seek this will be your fate... along with those that have a brain. No use for parasites in a communist paradise.

[SVPete]

shadowmayor (420 posts)
4. East Timor

The bloodbath rolled into East Timor with the backing of Kissinger and Ford (first) and the genocide began under Reagan with approval from Wolfowitz (he was our man in Jakarta). War criminals all, haters gotta hate, and war criminals gotta keep killing darker skinned people around the world.

East Timor was a Portuguese colony that Portugal abandoned. Various factions vied to fill that vacuum, including a Communist guerrilla force. Not wanting a Communist force that could cause trouble in the western part of Timor (which was and is Indonesian territory), Indonesian invaded, in 1975. It is true that Pres. Ford and Sec State Kissinger were aware of Suharto's plans to "invade" the eastern part of Timor and promised not to interfere. They "asked" that it be done quickly, but the ensuing war lasted for some 24 years. Evidently, much of the slaughter and starvation occurred between 1975 and 1981 (Wikipedia article about East Timor). Remind me ... who was President from January, 1977 through January 1981? Hint: it wasn't Ronald Reagan. Paul Wolfowitz was US Ambassador to Indonesia, but from 1986 through 1989, during Reagan's second term.I know ya'll can do the Math, but 24 years from 1975 means the war in East Timor ended in 1999. Do I need to point out who was POTUS from January, 1993 through January, 2001? Who in some 6 years played little or no role in the war's end, a referendum agreed to by the UN, Portugal, and Indonesia (after Suharto's resignation).

I won't say "shadowmayor" is a complete fail, including the words "and" and "the", but it's riddled with lack of context, serious and relevant omissions (Carter's entire Presidency was ignored, as was ~6 years of WJC!), and false factoids. Then there's the context I omitted, the mass slaughter and starvation under Communist rule - Lenin, Stalin, and Mao - and the atrocities of Pol Pot, which were concurrent with the early years of the war in East Timor. However brutally it was carried out, Suharto's decision to "invade" and fight a war was not made in an atmosphere of blood lust or greed for power.

[GOBUCKS]

1965 was before the democrat party was openly communist.

In fact, at that time many democrats were still pro-American and saw communism as our enemy.

The Indonesian genocide was actually muslims killing anyone who wasn't muslim, especially Chinese.

The fact that many of the victims were communists and/or Chinese made the whole thing much easier for the West to ignore.

At the time, Red China seemed crazier and much more dangerous than North Korea today.