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ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« on: April 26, 2016, 04:12:18 PM »

I will never own a home. I will probably never save enough in a 401k. :rant:

Looks like we got us a live one here.


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I will never own a home. I will probably never save enough in a 401k.

I'm about to turn thirty. My mom and dad when they were my age already had 2 kids and while we weren't rich we had a home in outskirts of Boston and we were happy.

My dad was able to go to school at nights to get his MBA, he worked really hard scraping together what he could so that my mom could stay home with the kids.

We worked and saved and he got better and better jobs that paid better, eventually we bought a home in the burbs. It was huge compared to the tiny apartment we all shared. I had my own room, my mom got and dad BOTH got cars. They were 35 maybe 37 at this time. They saved, we were lucky that both my sister and I could go to undergrad colleges debt free.

I will never know this in my lifetime. I've come to realize that we are now looking at an economy in which I will continue to make just enough to pay my rent, pay off my debt and buy food. I realize now that when people refuse to fight for a minimum wage increase for their fellow American that we have finally dived off the deep end, we have finally insulated the right amount of middle class voters from the horrors of the world that they only wonder why someone flipping burgers would have the audacity to ask for 15 dollars an hour.

I realize that I may never have kids. Not because I don't want them, I do. But I can't afford to take care of myself let alone another person. If I do have kids I doubt very much I will see half the opportunity for work that my father will. I've been temping for a year, haven't had a real job in almost two since the non-profit I was at ran out of federal funding (thanks Republicans).

I realize that my generation has been deferred. Too many boomers wanting too much for too long. I'm sorry if that upsets or incenses you but it's the truth. People climbed the corporate ladder, found themselves in positions of power then consolidated that money and power till only a small group of interconnected people could grab hold. Companies took massive federal loans then never hired anyone, using that money to pad bottom lines and fund bonus pays for executives.

When you tell me that my vote for Bernie Sanders is a waste, when you laugh and chastise me and my generation for wanting free stuff, or for being idealistic. Just remember really what you are doing is insulting us for trying to make this country what it was supposed to be, the land of opportunity. Just because you are already at the table eating doesn't mean they are not hungry people waiting for a chance to
sit a the table.

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1. So what do you do for a living? What skills have you honed in your mid to late 20's?

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5. I am a 3D Animator and Illustrator. I actually just finished publishing my first book and

am working on the second!

It's hard work to freelance, lots of time hunting the next job, less time actually working on your craft haha. Been hunting around for a studio job but they are few and far between due to the decrease in active studio projects.

Translation:   I smoke dope.   

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10. What type of Illustration?

Do you do hand-drawn animation as well? Who are your influences and inspirations?

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23. I mean it's all digital but I use a tablet and pen so it's kind of hand drawn?

Animation styles I can do either, 3D or 2D.

John Kricfalusi and John Lasseter would be two of my more modern and well known inspirations. One because he wrote his own rules and really challenged what was considered "kid" vs "adult" cartooning. And the other because his ability to craft stories he wanted to tell and stand up to the Mouse.


Translation 2:  I smoke a lot of dope.

The friend of a friend's brother's uncle's daughter went to one of those fancy graphic design schools too.  Slings a mean cup of joe down at the local bistro.  Still payin on the loans and living with mom, dad long since left in disgust.  Now the kid next door learned to weld and has almost got enough saved to buy his first house for CASH!

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104. Sorry DFAB420, but it seems that you want a pitty party when what you need is a dose of tough love.

The only reason I am saying this is because I took a look at many of the other responses, the vast majority of which were kind and empathetic. But you seemed to respond with a bunch of excuses for your situation.

I have three kids ages 34, 31, and 27. They all have a college degree and jobs. My youngest couldn't find a job in his field when he graduated from college with a Master's degree in Public Administration, so he got a job at the university he had attended as a Student Academic Advisor. It was a contracted position for one year, subject to renewal annually. This particular university uses contract positions how many of their positions so they don't have to lay people off, they can just not renew their contract should budget problems arise. Well after two years and receiving great performance reviews, he received notice that his contract would not be renewed and he lost his job in February of last year. Quite coincidently, his replacement was the daughter of another university employee. My son is black, well spoken, and a hard worker. He knew how had the job market was when he received his Bachelor's degree which is why he continued on in school and obtained his Master's degree. The day he was told that his contract would not be renewed, he decided to get his real estate license and go to work for himself. He had some savings which paid for his real estate training and his licensing fees and other fees (which were many) and his rent.

He had completed the licensing course in a week and was working within two weeks. He sold his first house within the first month, and two houses the following month. I told him to save his money because he could not expect what happened those first two months to be the norm. His broker told him he could earn extra money by showing rental houses that and earning a commission for each house rented. He only earned money if he rented one of the properties that he was showing. He also sold two more houses in the coming two months. He then hit a period of almost 5 months without selling another house, but continued to show rentals and it allowed him to establish his own working hours and build a network of clientele through his church. He's not a mogul yet but he says that he knows that he will always have a job, and he's on his way.

I say this only because there are jobs out there if you want to work. It might not be your dream job, but it can pay the bills in the interim. My son never really considered a job in real estate until he was laid off. It was a job he could get into with minimal training and he took it and ran with it. He didn't sit around saying poor me. I don't have a job, I'll never be able to buy a house. Quite the contrary. He's now talking about getting his broker's license, so he can have his own office.

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2016, 04:17:28 PM »
What this primitive forgets is that his parents had to use less of their income to pay taxes at the time.

There was a time, not so long ago, that taxes were pretty much incidental, allowing people to spend their income on other things.
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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2016, 04:27:12 PM »
Liberals screwed him over. Blames conservatives. Destined to always get the short end of the stick.

Hard to feel sorry for people whose own political philosophy created the circumstances they now find themselves in, only to blame everything except their own failed beliefs.

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2016, 04:32:59 PM »
What this primitive forgets is that his parents had to use less of their income to pay taxes at the time.

There was a time, not so long ago, that taxes were pretty much incidental, allowing people to spend their income on other things.

True enough but you have to be working at a paying job to pay real taxes.  Maybe he can become a tattoo artist.   :whistling:
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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2016, 05:06:11 PM »
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I will never own a home. I will probably never save enough in a 401k.

I'm about to turn thirty. My mom and dad when they were my age already had 2 kids and while we weren't rich we had a home in outskirts of Boston and we were happy.

My dad was able to go to school at nights to get his MBA, he worked really hard scraping together what he could so that my mom could stay home with the kids.

We worked and saved and he got better and better jobs that paid better, eventually we bought a home in the burbs. It was huge compared to the tiny apartment we all shared. I had my own room, my mom got and dad BOTH got cars. They were 35 maybe 37 at this time. They saved, we were lucky that both my sister and I could go to undergrad colleges debt free.

I will never know this in my lifetime. I've come to realize that we are now looking at an economy in which I will continue to make just enough to pay my rent, pay off my debt and buy food. I realize now that when people refuse to fight for a minimum wage increase for their fellow American that we have finally dived off the deep end, we have finally insulated the right amount of middle class voters from the horrors of the world that they only wonder why someone flipping burgers would have the audacity to ask for 15 dollars an hour.

I realize that I may never have kids. Not because I don't want them, I do. But I can't afford to take care of myself let alone another person. If I do have kids I doubt very much I will see half the opportunity for work that my father will. I've been temping for a year, haven't had a real job in almost two since the non-profit I was at ran out of federal funding (thanks Republicans).

I realize that my generation has been deferred. Too many boomers wanting too much for too long. I'm sorry if that upsets or incenses you but it's the truth. People climbed the corporate ladder, found themselves in positions of power then consolidated that money and power till only a small group of interconnected people could grab hold. Companies took massive federal loans then never hired anyone, using that money to pad bottom lines and fund bonus pays for executives.

When you tell me that my vote for Bernie Sanders is a waste, when you laugh and chastise me and my generation for wanting free stuff, or for being idealistic. Just remember really what you are doing is insulting us for trying to make this country what it was supposed to be, the land of opportunity. Just because you are already at the table eating doesn't mean they are not hungry people waiting for a chance to
sit a the table.


Sounds like politicaljunkie41910's son pulled himself up by the bootstraps but the stoner on the other hand not so much. :-)
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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2016, 05:39:02 PM »
So a pothead who went to cartoon school isn't making dough like his old man, who worked his ass off for an MBA.

America really sucks, and needs to elect a vulgar nut in order to be great again.

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2016, 05:51:07 PM »
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I say this only because there are jobs out there if you want to work. It might not be your dream job, but it can pay the bills in the interim. My son never really considered a job in real estate until he was laid off. It was a job he could get into with minimal training and he took it and ran with it. He didn't sit around saying poor me. I don't have a job, I'll never be able to buy a house. Quite the contrary. He's now talking about getting his broker's license, so he can have his own office.

DFab420 is probably one of those dolts that listened to and believed Stretch Pelosi when she told them that they were going to be liberated by BarryCare and be able to quit their job, become a photographer, a writer, a musician, or whatever.
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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2016, 05:53:43 PM »
So a pothead who went to cartoon school isn't making dough like his old man, who worked his ass off for an MBA.

America really sucks, and needs to elect a vulgar nut in order to be great again.

I'd log on over there and suggest the DUmmie learn a trade. Plumbing, welding, so on and so forth. Get a job as a plumber assistant, learn and work your way up. It seems, however, this DUmmie wants big bucks now without putting a whole lot of work into it, and has trouble waking up in the morning to boot.
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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2016, 05:57:28 PM »
DFab420 is probably one of those dolts that listened to and believed Stretch Pelosi when she told them that they were going to be liberated by BarryCare and be able to quit their job, become a photographer, a writer, a musician, or whatever.


Ding ding ding.  Excellent analysis of things.  Yes, you can sit in a tree and learn to play the flute now that Obiewun has broken the shackles of medical care.   :stoner:  And Saint Bernard is promising  "Free weed for everyone" or something lie that. :stoner: 
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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2016, 05:58:01 PM »
I'm just a few years older than this primitive, and have none of these problems.

The difference is that I worked and continue to work my ass off.  I work hard.  I have had nothing handed to me for free.  Sometimes, I even work MORE than one job. 


I'm sick to damned death of these lazy bastards. 


ESAD, you lazy, feckless malcontent. 

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2016, 06:03:07 PM »
1. Freelancer = Nobody would hire it...or hired it and then fired it.

2. It always thought it was special and it never worked hard nor thought that it should work hard.

3. Boston was a reasonable place to live but 40 years of leftist policies made it very, very expensive. See every other leftist hell hole.

4. It never saved or sacrificed. Poor future time orientation. Common upon life's losers...also common bitching that life ain't fair.

5. Obama should have fixed all this with Unicorn farts and JUJU economics.

and most importantly.........

6. Suck a wet shiny turn out of my hard working, sacrificing, forward thinking asshole. You done made your bed.
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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2016, 06:07:40 PM »
I will never own a home. I will probably never save enough in a 401k. :rant:

Looks like we got us a live one here.


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Apparently the fabulous 420 primitive isn't the hot stuff comic book author he fancies himself. 

Translation:   I smoke dope.   

Translation 2:  I smoke a lot of dope.

The friend of a friend's brother's uncle's daughter went to one of those fancy graphic design schools too.  Slings a mean cup of joe down at the local bistro.  Still payin on the loans and living with mom, dad long since left in disgust.  Now the kid next door learned to weld and has almost got enough saved to buy his first house for CASH!

Pity, Pity!!   Party of one ...  Your table is ready.  :rotflmao:   No sale on your thread but there is plenty of crow and humble pie when you get hungry. Lots of fun posts on this one row on over when you get a chance.  :rotf:

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2016, 06:07:57 PM »
DFab420 is probably one of those dolts that listened to and believed Stretch Pelosi when she told them that they were going to be liberated by BarryCare and be able to quit their job, become a photographer, a writer, a musician, or whatever.

Yeah, I mean, it was funemployment, right?

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2016, 06:13:51 PM »
What i found funny, is in his first part when he describes growing up, he says "We" a lot when it pertains to what they owned.  Sounds to me like his Dad was a hard worker so his Mom could stay home... I imagine they cry themselves to sleep every night thinking of how they raised such a twit.

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Re: ME_llennial Whine &quot;Why I is so pour&quot;?
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2016, 06:16:08 PM »
I'm just a few years older than this primitive, and have none of these problems.

The difference is that I worked and continue to work my ass off.  I work hard.  I have had nothing handed to me for free.  Sometimes, I even work MORE than one job. 


I'm sick to damned death of these lazy bastards. 


ESAD, you lazy, feckless malcontent.
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Re: ME_llennial Whine &quot;Why I is so pour&quot;?
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2016, 06:20:35 PM »
I'd like to help out the primitive, but my rentals don't take HUD

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2016, 07:57:13 PM »
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5. I am a 3D Animator and Illustrator. I actually just finished publishing my first book and

am working on the second!

It's hard work to freelance, lots of time hunting the next job, less time actually working on your craft haha. Been hunting around for a studio job but they are few and far between due to the decrease in active studio projects.

Had this  ... DU member ... done even a tiny bit of research (s)he might have learned that this career field has been shrinking for a couple of decades. Education - academic and trades - choices have consequences.
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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2016, 07:57:52 PM »
Maybe Rob McGrath could help him out. :)

Oh wait,he is a 60ish year old cartoonist that has been an unemployed,worthless loser for years now too.

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2016, 08:05:12 PM »
A standard douchnozzle takes a powder in the game of life.  Bless him for trying and may his goddess give him a head start in life to focus on his ignorance.

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2016, 11:39:42 AM »
Had this  ... DU member ... done even a tiny bit of research (s)he might have learned that this career field has been shrinking for a couple of decades. Education - academic and trades - choices have consequences.

bingo!!

Hard working young people in SE Asia, Eastern Europe, and Russia, not to mention H1B visas is killing that field...like many others. Preznint Shit Midas is doing this to the poor little DUchebag.

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2016, 01:07:50 PM »
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My dad was able to go to school at nights to get his MBA, he worked really hard scraping together what he could so that my mom could stay home with the kids.

We HE worked and saved and he got better and better jobs that paid better, eventually we HE bought a home in the burbs. It was huge compared to the tiny apartment we all shared. I had my own room, my mom got and dad BOTH got cars. They were 35 maybe 37 at this time. They saved, we were lucky that both my sister and I could go to undergrad colleges debt free.

Have you even attempted to do any of those things in bold above?  it's not going to be handed to you ever.






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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2016, 02:02:13 PM »
Have you even attempted to do any of those things in bold above?  it's not going to be handed to you ever.

Somehow it didn't get through to him that, as a kid, he was living his parents' lifestyle, a lifestyle they earned. Now, as an alleged adult, he's living the lifestyle he's earned.
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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2016, 02:47:04 PM »
Somehow it didn't get through to him that, as a kid, he was living his parents' lifestyle, a lifestyle they earned. Now, as an alleged adult, he's living the lifestyle he's earned.

Ding ding ding!

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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2016, 04:34:32 PM »
Somehow it didn't get through to him that, as a kid, he was living his parents' lifestyle, a lifestyle they earned. Now, as an alleged adult, he's living the lifestyle he's earned, but wants everybody else to pay for the lifestyle he wants.

Fixed it.
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Re: ME_llennial Whine "Why I is so pour"?
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2016, 09:20:21 PM »
I think every generation probably has its share of deadbeats like the DUmmies.

If Twitter, Facebook, and message boards had been around in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, swarms of losers would have been online bitching about "income inequality" and other horrible injustices they were suffering through.