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Offline Carl

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Few things are as amusing as watching those with an undying faith in marxism proclaim how rational they are.

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What Comes After Capitalism? Upcoming Teach-Ins Can Show a Way Forward

What Comes After Capitalism? Upcoming Teach-Ins Can Show a Way Forward

Thursday, 21 April 2016 00:00
By Gar Alperovitz and Ben Manski, Truthout | Op-Ed


An extraordinary process of change is about to explode this month on campuses and in communities across the United States. Thousands of Americans are coming together in dozens of locations to take on the question of what kind of system should replace capitalism. The process is called the Next System Teach-Ins.

Teach-ins to address the fundamental question of how to move beyond capitalism will be taking place on campuses as well as in community centers and correctional facilities -- most between Earth Day (April 22) and May Day (May 1), following kickoff events this month at the New School and the City University of New York (CUNY) system in New York City; and the University of Wisconsin at Madison. The largest teach-in is planned for the University of California, Santa Barbara, between April 26 and 28. Major sessions from that campus will be live-streamed into classrooms, house parties and workplaces across the world.

The idea that capitalism as a system may be coming to an end, that something new must ultimately be created, is no longer restricted to groups on the political left. Survey after survey has found millions of Americans embracing ideas far different from business as usual. A January 2016 poll of likely Democratic caucusgoers, even in a state like Iowa, found that 43 percent described themselves as "socialist" -- a higher percentage than those who self-identified as "capitalist." Eighty-four percent of Democratic voters under the age of 30 voted for the self-described "democratic socialist" candidate Bernie Sanders, and one-third of all Sanders supporters have told pollsters they will vote for the Green Party's Jill Stein in the general election if Sanders is not the Democratic Party nominee.

Nor is the understanding that the current system is not the be-all and end-all of history restricted to progressives in general. Long before anti-capitalism found mass expression in the Sanders campaign, four years ago, in 2012, Klaus Schwab, chairman of the World Economic Forum -- the annual gathering of corporate and financial leaders in Davos, Switzerland -- declared: "Capitalism in its current form no longer fits the world around us." .....................(more)

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35726-what-comes-after-capitalism-upcoming-teach-ins-can-show-a-way-forward

Yeah,something that has a 100% failure rate is just the way to go.

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Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:36 AM

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2. Excellent. Of course, university economics departments

across the nation have been corrupted, to various degrees, for some time by donations by ultraconservatives like the Kochs into teaching conservative economic theories, often unsustainable and rendering respectable many ideas that were once rejected. The donations usually set up special schools and lines of study under benign names, in addition to what was already being taught.

Universities, especially Ivy League -- the first, most important target for infiltration -- have been graduating right-wing indoctrinated students for a couple decades now, who are themselves now teaching, working in government, involved in politics.

If this is really happening and doesn't just fade away in this environment, it will be yet another sign that the Kochs and others are finally failing after over three decades of appalling subversive achievements.

It takes a special kind of retard to believe that idiocy.

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Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:52 AM

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3. The attacks on education are the biggest problem.

Economic theory must be consistent with the principles of science and logic, because economic activity is nothing other than converting stored and available energy into usable energy. 'Teaching' mainstream economic theory and belief in the creation of wealth, is more akin to promoting belief in magical incantations.

From the mutts that believe food,housing and healthcare should be free of charge while getting a guaranteed monthly income from the government.  ::)

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Re: The "everything should be free" DUmp economists discuss capitalism
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2016, 03:45:46 PM »
These morons are a prime example of "doomed to repeat history" because they never learn it.

It never occurs to them that the financial burden social programs put on tax payers/base are the very reasons they believe that "capitalism has failed".  :thatsright:
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Re: The "everything should be free" DUmp economists discuss capitalism
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2016, 05:50:55 PM »
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What Comes After Capitalism?

See Venezuela.

1. No toilet paper.
2. Millions killed.
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When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: The "everything should be free" DUmp economists discuss capitalism
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2016, 11:15:46 PM »
See Venezuela.

1. No toilet paper.
2. Millions killed.
The tender DUmpllings have no intention of interrupting their quest for free stuff.
Viewing  the failure of Venezuela requires critical thought.
   




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Re: The "everything should be free" DUmp economists discuss capitalism
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2016, 11:57:30 PM »
I just don't trust economic advice from a group that signals agreement with up twinkles.

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Re: The "everything should be free" DUmp economists discuss capitalism
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2016, 12:12:21 AM »
I just don't trust economic advice from a group that signals agreement with up twinkles.
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