http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6564618Oh my.
highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 09:52 AM
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Rasmussen: 30% of Conservative Democrats Say They’ll Vote for McCain
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics...
Thursday, July 31, 2008
Thirty percent (30%) of conservative Democrats say they’re voting for John McCain. Rasmussen Reports data also shows the Republican hopeful picking up support from 19% of White Democrats and 15% of Democrats over the age of 50. These results are from national telephone survey interviews conducted with 14,000 Likely Voters during the two weeks ending July 24. The sample includes 5,074 Democratic voters.
The data shows that 43% of Democrats consider themselves politically liberal, 37% say they’re moderate, and 18% are conservative.
Forty-one percent (41%) of conservative Democrats have a favorable opinion of John McCain. Sixty-seven percent (67%) say the same about Obama.
Among liberal Democrats, just 23% have a positive opinion about McCain, but 90% give Obama favorable reviews.
Obama is supported by 78% of Democrats overall, a figure that includes 62% of conservative Democrats. He leads 84% to 13% among Democrats under 30. But, among those over 65, Obama earns just 74% of the vote while McCain is preferred by 16% of Democratic senior citizens. It is interesting to note that just 2% of Democrats under 30 hold back from selecting either Obama or McCain. That number grows to 9% among Democrats over 65. Full crosstabs are available for Premium Members.
While Obama is losing some Democratic voters, he begins with a significant advantage over McCain by virtue of the fact that there are far more Democrats in the country than Republicans.
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 09:53 AM
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1. Strikes me as false.
as does anything from the Republican pollster Rasmussen.
simskl (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 10:00 AM
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7. No that's probably about right
The term "Conservative Democrat" is kind of code phrase for "racist cracker" where I'm originally from. These, to use another media code word for "racist crackers", "working class whites" vote repuke on a regular basis but still call themselves Democrats because daddy and grandpappy hated the Republican party for taking away their darker skinned property back at the end of the 19th century. This is not a constituency that Obama is going to win or even bother trying to talk too IMO, they are a lost and repulsive group of redneck pricks.
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 09:54 AM
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2. Trash....all of them.
What's driving these "conservative Democrats"?
my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 10:05 AM
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13. Racist! When I think of conservative democratic Zell Miller automatically comes to my thoughts. Whatever happened to that evil-looking man? Lieberman comes to mind. So it fits that they would not vote for Obama. Many are the so-called Reagan democrats that haven't voted for a democrat in years. Remember that melt-down Zell had over Kerry?
wienerdoggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 09:57 AM
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3. WTF is wrong with these people? I'm a pretty conservative Dem, and it wouldn't even OCCUR to me to vote for McFossil. Obama is hardly "far-left". These people must still worship at McSenile's Temple Of Mavericky Maverickness.
Bleachers7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 09:59 AM
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5. I don't think people have made up their minds yet.
It's the same problem Obama has in general. I think as time goes on, and the convention goes on, and the debates go on, Obama will gain more support. You can see it in some other polls. Obama gets stronger with Democrats as time goes on.
simskl (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 10:03 AM
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10. You're not that kind of Conservative Dem
You're probably a lot more like the conservative Dem I think of myself as. This is actually only 30% of Conservative Dems which is a pretty small proportion and is made up, in large part, of the Dixicrat racist crackers that I grew up with.
Bleachers7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 09:58 AM
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4. Are you concerned?
thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 11:20 AM
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17. No he is angry because Hillary wont be the VP
Just watch how he will bombard the forum with nonsense threads like this.
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 09:59 AM
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6. Clinton 2012 still alive!!!!
Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 10:01 AM
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8. So 18% of Dems are conservative and 30% of them like McCain...That's under 6% of all Dems...not bad
not bad at all
Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 10:01 AM
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9. That's a pretty striking number if it's true
simskl (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 10:04 AM
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12. Why?
It's 30% of the people that call themselves Conservative Democrats not 30% of the Democrats.
NCevilDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 10:04 AM
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11. What is 30% of 18%?
1/5 of Democrats self-identify as conservative - 18%.
1/3 of those conservative democrats will go for McCain - 30%
1/3 of 1/5 would be 1/15 of the total - @6%.
sounds like the normal expected crossover that we get any election year.
They will be more than made up for by registering new voters.
No worry.
ribofunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 11:17 AM
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16. Exactly the Computation I Was About to Post
not good, but not as bad as it sounds. And after the primaries, not unexpected.
Happyhippychick (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 10:11 AM
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14. Why is this a bad thing? That means 70% might not.
regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 10:15 AM
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15. RASMUSSEN: 70% of Conservative Dems favor Obama!
When you put it that way......
scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 11:21 AM
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19. Alternate headline: 30% of liberal Republcans say they'll vote for Obama
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-31-08 11:31 AM
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21. 5.4% Over all.
that actually sounds about right.
So we need to increase voter turnout to counter.
You know, I'm deaf; can't hear.
But while observing this Obamaite primitive bonfire, it was as if I was out in the country, and it was dark.
Night-time.
So I'm passing this old abandoned cemetery.
And suddenly I'm hearing some whistling.
