http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511785242Which, since he was born and raised there, and running against an outsider, he should've won by a landslide.
Star Member brooklynite (31,177 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:10 PM
Politico: How Bernie lost New York
NEW YORK — Bernie Sanders had just arrived at the rally, and missed the incendiary remark entirely. Many on the senator’s campaign had never even heard of Dr. Paul Song, the speaker who had just commandeered news coverage of a massive Washington Square rally in New York by referring to “corporate Democratic whores.â€
Nevertheless, by the next morning, the campaign was forced into full scramble mode. Cable coverage of the 27,000-person rally was eclipsed by reporting on the furor surrounding the comment, requiring a Sanders response. After first resisting an apology, the campaign settled on disavowing the remark with a tweet.
Another day, another lost news cycle.
In New York, Sanders finally hit the wall, his winning streak ended by a daily pummeling that forced him on the defensive and erased the developing Comeback Kid narrative. The tabloids dealt him punishing hit after punishing hit. The Democratic establishment, most of it in Clinton’s camp, piled on harder than the Sanders campaign expected. Caught up in one distraction after another – the quarrel over debate details, the back and forth with Clinton over her qualifications, a trip to the Vatican in the run-up to the election – Sanders never gained his footing, or even came close to pulling off the upset victory he once predicted with frequency.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/how-bernie-lost-new-york-222173
northernsouthern (660 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:12 PM
1. That's odd, I thought it was something else.
Closed primary, no one could switch since last year. But hey great victory in the boy's club you got there.
brooklynite (31,177 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:14 PM
3. How many closed Caucuses did you complain about Sanders winning?
northernsouthern (660 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:21 PM
6. Really, well you can check my history...
...but if you want me to go over it again Washington is not closed, we are the most open and possibly one of the easiest to vote on, he won big here, way more than she won in NY. People can vote here on election day, does not matter what party you are in. We can vote by mail in. She lost here because we are open. I HATE all closed versions, I have complained about them all! How are you not able to grasp that in a proportional election with a candidate that crushes her in the independent votes I would not want every election open? Think about it! He wins in high turn out and open...she wins in closed and lower. When they said turn out was not up to par on 2008 and that this was closed I knew he lost.
Oops. The ^^^primitive's been caught in a lie:
George II (14,985 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:23 PM
9. Check your history? You've been here 3 weeks.
ismnotwasm (26,782 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:29 PM
13. Washington is a caucus state that had 5% of the electorate voting.
A total of 230,000 participants. I don't see the comparison.
northernsouthern (660 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:40 PM
14. Yeah, we have a double system.
Many people are lazy and they just vote in the primary coming up because they mail out the ballots for those. He had a turn out close to when we supported Obama last election, it was 93.8%. That is a whole nother thing. No clue why the hell many more do not show up or mail in in one of the easiest places to vote. The caucus can be way more fun, but they are also more cheap from the sounds of it. I have voted in Arizona and in Arkansas and this one is the easiest for me. If they did not have the mail in, then I would be less of a fan.
mythology (4,973 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:33 AM
25. Caucuses inherently limit turnout as compared to a primary
It's hard to claim that you're for more people voting if you aren't adamantly against caucuses.
^^^yeah, that; that's why caucuses need to be abandoned in favor of primaries.
Trust Buster (2,112 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:13 PM
response to the original post
2. Yes, he was finally vetted. Tonight was the result.
blue neen (9,667 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:50 AM
50. Yep...
and this vetting was nothing compared to what would have happened in the General election.
book_worm (13,077 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:20 PM
4. His huge rallies don't translate into votes?
George II (14,985 posts) Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:24 PM
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10. That 27000 person rally was reported by the NYPD, who know these things was only 11000.
La Lioness Priyanka (49,161 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:40 AM
29. he lost because new yorkers like HRC more. winning NY was always a pipe dream
he never polled ahead of her here. he didn't lose because of one remark, he lost because people like and trust her more in NY
Yeah, that's got to be really humiliating for the old sourassed sourpuss; his old neighbors and friends preferred an outsider to him, their fellow native New Yorker.
workinclasszero (10,208 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:37 AM
46. Sanders flamed out in NY bigtime!
The whole edifice came crashing down and great was the wreckage of it!
Lucinda (21,673 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:41 AM
47. It truly was a mess of epic proportions.
Almost everthing they did, was wrong.
workinclasszero (10,208 posts) Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:46 AM
48. Yes....Bernie's New York Götterdämmerung
The Twilight of the Gods, Sanders fans.
Yeah.
And it was such a joy to watch, Arrogance and Pride and Hubris and Vainglory and Pomposity and Conceit humbled, laid low.
Maybe this humiliation will make the Bernie bullies better people.
