primitives discuss taxes under Methuselah, Messalina Agrippina, and the Rs

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110787461

Oh my.

Fresh_Start (7,375 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:27 PM

I looked at the calculator that shows how much my taxes will change under each of the candidates
 
I saw that under BS plan my taxes will increase by more than $30K a year.

I can't afford it.

The increase under HRC is 1/10th of that.

And I will reap 5 digit windfalls under Trump.

The BS tax increases are substantial on much more modest incomes.

I've got to believe that numbers like those will cool voters enthusiasm for BS.

I don't watch any television...so I don't know if people realize what he's proposing and how it will impact their lives.

Is it known..and I'm just unaware or is this something the GOP is holding in reserve for the GE?

fleabiscuit (1,083 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:47 PM

9. This one was used here a day or so ago...
 
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016

liberal N proud (51,057 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:34 PM

5. But look at all the free things he [Methuselah] would give.

jmowreader (32,758 posts)    Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:39 PM

7. It's a good thing he's [Methuselah] going to give out free stuff...
 
Since he's [Methuselah] going to get all my money, it'd be nice to get a little something in return.

leftofcool (15,554 posts)   Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:42 PM

8. Another reason to NOT vote for Sanders!

[franksolich]

Okay, so I tried out the tax calculator linked by the fleabitten primitive.

For the record, I'm kind of at the lower end of the income scale, but that's mostly voluntary on my part: I just can't get excited about making a lot of money.

Under Trump's plan, I'd pay $310 less.

Under Cruz's plan, I'd pay $280 less.

Under Messalina Agrippina's plan, I'd pay $20 more.

Under Methuselah's plan, I'd pay a whooping $960 more.

[Carl]

Cheap and greedy one percenter.

[BlueStateSaint]

Under Trump's plan, we'd pay over $6,000 less.  Cruz' plan, a hair over $3,000 less.  Clinton's plan, $80 more a year.  Sanders?  Over $12,000 more per year.

[franksolich]

Under Trump's plan, we'd pay over $6,000 less.  Cruz' plan, a hair over $3,000 less.  Clinton's plan, $80 more a year.  Sanders?  Over $12,000 more per year.

Yeah, where's Methuselah's much-touted plan to resurrect the middle class?  You're a pretty stable person, so I'm assuming that's your socio-economic level.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Just think, y'all. Those taxes are on the LOWER end of what would be required. It's being sugar-coated right now to make it look attractive (even though it's prohibitively expensive).

[FiddyBeowulf]

Yeah, where's Methuselah's much-touted plan to resurrect the middle class?  You're a pretty stable person, so I'm assuming that's your socio-economic level.

His plan to resurrect the middle class involves taxing the upper class down into the middle class.

[Big Dog]

Yeah, where's Methuselah's much-touted plan to resurrect the middle class?  You're a pretty stable person, so I'm assuming that's your socio-economic level.

Bernie's idea of resurrection is more like The Walking Dead.

[GOBUCKS]

Under Trump's plan, we'd pay over $6,000 less.  Cruz' plan, a hair over $3,000 less.

Add that to the thousands we're saving on health insurance with the jug-eared muslim and we're all on easy street.

There are actually people who believe these numbers.

[USA4ME]

Fresh_Start
 
I saw that under BS plan my taxes will increase by more than $30K a year.

According to the calculator, that would have this primitive making approx. $265,000 a year. I call bouncy on the alleged income level. The primitives are too stupid to make that much, not to mention knowing how to handle it if they ever did.

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[BlueStateSaint]

According to the calculator, that would have this primitive making approx. $265,000 a year. I call bouncy on the alleged income level. The primitives are too stupid to make that much, not to mention knowing how to handle it if they ever did.

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He probably got his time spans confused--maybe he was thinking "lifetime."

[Fourwinds]

Under Trump's plan, we'd pay over $6,000 less.  Cruz' plan, a hair over $3,000 less.  Clinton's plan, $80 more a year.  Sanders?  Over $12,000 more per year.

6k or 3k either way its winner. As for Sanders I'm not surprised. How did the DU dorks think he was going to pay for all the free crap he promised? I guess they think he shits money.

[Karin]

Around $4K less with Trump and Cruz, about the same with Hildabeast, and $6K more with That Communist!  Where the hell do they think people are going to get that money?  They'd have to give up eating! 

Response to Fresh_Start (Original post)

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:09 AM

workinclasszero (9,579 posts)

18. This is one major reason Bernie would get his ass kicked by Trump or Cruz

And you notice the Bernie faithful on this site and everywhere else on the internet NEVER discuss the HUGE tax increases Bernie's plans would require.

Not only on the rich and big business/wall street, oh HELL NAW but on the middle class and the working class and the poor, EVERYBODY!

Trump or Cruz would DEVASTATE Bernie in the GE on this subject alone, not to mention all the other areas in Bernie's career that he hasn't been vetted on.

[USA4ME]

Checking around, the bern-outs are claiming you may pay $6000 more in taxes, but with "free healthcare" you'll save $12,000 on healthcare premiums.

If you're dumb enough to believe that'll actually happen.

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[BlueStateSaint]

Checking around, the bern-outs are claiming you may pay $6000 more in taxes, but with "free healthcare" you'll save $12,000 on healthcare premiums.

If you're dumb enough to believe that'll actually happen.

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They also must believe in Skittle-shitting unicorns, too.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Add that to the thousands we're saving on health insurance with the jug-eared muslim and we're all on easy street.

There are actually people who believe these numbers.

And as a reward, Bernie will increase your chocolate ration from 25 grams a month to 20 grams per month.

[landofconfusion80]

I'd be paying 9800 more. Hurray!

[Patriot Guard Rider]

I'd be paying 9800 more. Hurray!

Mine would go up 7,590 a year.

Isn't it amazing? All the Dummies clamoring for bernie are $9 per hour workers anxious for all the "free" stuff.

Yet, they're superior to us. We're the knuckle dragging neanderthals.

Liberals disgust me.

[landofconfusion80]

Mine would go up 7,590 a year.

Isn't it amazing? All the Dummies clamoring for bernie are $9 per hour workers anxious for all the "free" stuff.

Yet, they're superior to us. We're the knuckle dragging neanderthals.

Liberals disgust me.

It's so tough being in the 1%

[I_B_Perky]

I am of two minds about this:

1. Effective moling
2. Piss poor moling

Dunno which.  I have kinda lost my ability to read the dump moles.   Ya all decide.

Dummie say his taxes will increase due to Bernie. Then tempers it with Hillary not raising it "that" much. Then says he will have a windfall under the Trump.

This could go different ways. One hand, the dummie has swung to the hildabeast side so he may be getting hildabeast cred as well as bashing Bernie.  On the other hand, he may be lording it over the dummies that he is rich.  Tempers it with can't afford it... dummies can understand can't afford it.  On the third hand he may be informing the dummies that they will probably have to start paying taxes under Bernie. This is where the ???? comes in. If he would have said that the dummies would have been screwed with Trump even worse than Bernie... or gotten money from hildabeast... maybe.  Too many ifs here to decide.   

An unlikely scenario is the dummie is a paid rep for Vox and is trying to drive traffic to their site.  Possible, unlikely though.