http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511611041Oh my.
<<<thinks it's long past time for the Bernie bullies to shut up about the superdelegates; they're a fact of life, a creation of professional Democrats concerned about the future of the Democrat party, and best to accept them and move on.
davidn3600 (5,132 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:09 PM
So superdelegates admit they don't give a shit about the voters
At least a half-dozen Democratic superdelegates in New York State who have already decided to support Hillary Clinton said Tuesday they would maintain their allegiance to her — regardless of the results of the Empire State’s primary.
Even if Sanders were to win the April 19 New York presidential contest, when a whopping 247 delegates are at stake, every single New York superdelegate reached by the Daily News said they would never back the Vermont senator.
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In spite of Sanders winning 15 states — including some by an 80%-20% margin — over 94% of the 498 superdelegates have said they are backing Clinton.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-superdelegates-largely-back-clinton-sanders-article-1.2581729
And there are people who claim this process isn't rigged? **** you. It's more rigged than the NBA. It's obvious this thing was promised to Clinton years ago.
<<<thinks the system was designed and in operation a long time before Bill and Hill.
Tarc (4,454 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:10 PM
1. If you don't like how the Democratic Party is structured, perhaps there's a party out there
that is a better fit?
Yeah. If the Bernie bullies don't like it, they can take their toys and go to another party.
morningfog (15,064 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:15 PM
6. WHy would you equate structure with policy? That doesn't make sense.
Tarc (4,454 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:22 PM
9. Why would you join a party, then complain about its rules mid-stream?
Play by the rules or don't play at all.
But really, the superdelegate thing is moot anyways* since it is virtually impossible for Sanders to make up the pledged delegate gap.
*And it's a damned good thing, too.
morningfog (15,064 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:24 PM
10. As a member of this party, I can complain about the rules. I have been for a while,
there is nothing mid stream about it.
Super delegates should just be done away with. They are pointless.
fun n serious (1,723 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:07 PM
38. No. They serve a very important function
They are there to make sure OUR party does not get hijacked by a radical who makes promises that government officials know he can't keep. It is there to prevent inexperienced people who call the elders of the party DINO's do not attempt to run against our own DEMS in sitting seats. That is their purpose. I do not want them done away with I want them made stronger.
geek tragedy (55,204 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:14 PM
4. Clinton has a very large lead amongst elected delegates.
Unless Sanders takes the lead amongst elected delegates, this stuff about superdelegates is both moot and excuse-making.
And, let's see how well Bernie does in NY State before complaining about the superdelegates here choosing Clinton.
peacebird (13,798 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:22 PM
8. Any super delegate who goes against the voters in their state WILL be primaried!
Game ON.
MFM008 (2,401 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:47 PM
response to the peachbird primitive above
11. Threats are all you have.
You know for a while I seriously considered Sanders until the caucus on Saturday and the bitching that the Sanders people did. Theres a my way or the highway attitute Sanders voters have and their refusal to vote for the democratic nominee is sad.
Thanks for setting me back on the path.
mythology (4,709 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:53 PM
14. Does that apply to super delegates like Erin Bilbray
Alan Grayson and Raul Grijalva? They voted for Sanders but their states voted for Clinton.
^^^good point, but the Bernie bullies'll ignore it anyway.
Beacool (27,762 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:52 PM
13. Neither do Since Sanders and his staffers (Weaver and Devine).
Weren't they the one's who kept saying that they would try to convince super delegates to switch to Sanders, even if Hillary ends the primaries with more pledged delegates? Obviously they don't give a fig about the will of the people.
Uh huh.
Sheepshank (10,529 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:55 PM
15. All these rants regarding Super Delegates, merely brings home the fact that people are clueless.....
...to the role of and the responsibilities of Super Delegates.
The SD responsibility is to the DNC that created and invented and describes those positions.
how embarrassing for the perpetually outraged.
Uh huh.
MineralMan (81,960 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:09 PM
response to original post
18. Oh, they care about the voters who elected them to the offices
they hold, I assure you. They know who those voters are, too.
They care about the voters who turn out in mid-term elections. Do you know who doesn't turn out in mid-term elections? Do you know who sat at home in 2010 ad 2014? I do. They do. Maybe people should show up in mid-term elections so they'll actually have some clout in presidential election years. Maybe.
Think about it. House Members and Senators make up the majority of superdelegates. They're party-oriented people. They know who elects them. Those are the voters they are concerned with, not the new Sanders voters. They know those voters will not go to the polls in 2018.
Trust me...they know who their supporters are.
Uh huh.
Scuba (51,084 posts) Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:01 PM
35. It's their job to not give a shit about voters ...
Un-Democratic Party: DNC chair says superdelegates ensure elites don’t have to run “against grassroots activistsâ€
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/13/un_democratic_party_dnc_chair_says_superdelegates_ensure_elites
Nope, nope, nope, nope, not at all.
Superdelegates, because of their greater knowledge and concern for the long-term survival of the Democrat party, ensure that only the most balanced, the most mature, the most sane, candidates get selected. Sometimes the mob goes a little wild, a little too far, picking whacked-out far-left extremist candidates who generally manage to carry only one state.....
