Pakistan explosion leaves many dead at Lahore park

[dutch508]

Bomb attack targeted Christian women and children. Taliban claims responsibility.

MowCowWhoHow III (1,006 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141393101

Pakistan explosion leaves many dead at Lahore park

Democat (10,090 posts)
4. Very sad

How long until some DUer blames Bush or Obama instead of the sick people with the bombs?

forest444 (3,318 posts)
5. It was beautiful.

Well maintained and built to last.

Those good people. More victims we can thank that craven bastard Cheney for. Pakistan was always a troubled country; but nothing like it's been since Cheney and his pet idiot set up a narco state in Afghanistan.

Of course. Bush's fault.

Star Member former9thward (16,643 posts)
23. Ahh no.

Obama has been running the Afgan operation for over 7 years now. He owns it. He was the one that said Afghanistan was the "just" war.

 

Igel (23,349 posts)
6. 11 minutes.

Not only does it blame Bush or Obama (actually it reaches back to Cheney).

No mention of the home-spun quasi-Salafist Deobandi movement in Pakistan, or that its fundamentalism and conservatism made it really easy to mix with Wahhabism. That this movement produced a number of nationalist Muslim groups, some of which are terrorist by most people's definition. (That Islamism is a kind of nationalism strikes us as weird, but it pays to remember that "Jewish" may be an ethnicity but one rooted primarily a religion, and that in some parts of the world where it calls for ethnicity in passports you list or would have listed your religion, so under the Ottomans; Muslims constitute a natio, a "nation," and most fundamentalists consider an attack on Muslims to be an attack on their natio by members of another natio--whether that is "the" Christian nation, Hindu nation, or Jewish nation.)

rockfordfile (535 posts)
26. What does that suppose to mean?

These right wing extremist groups do go back to Reagan and Bushco.

Star Member Sunlei (13,013 posts)
41. Republicans whined about their (RW) Christian Superiority this year too & harassed 'OtHeRs' 2016.

Star Member NutmegYankee (11,381 posts)
36. radiacalized anybody anyfaith has been doing this across the world.

One look at the Oklahoma City Building on April 19, 1995 or a peak into Sandy Hook Elementary confirms that fact. Terrorism isn't a faith, it's an ideology. Faith is just an excuse to justify the political goal they seek.

They can not admit who the real threat is.

Star Member NutmegYankee (11,381 posts)
43. What is the point you want to make?

But before you start, I can guess that you will probably comment that it's the faith causing it, but I KNOW that is bullshit. The vast majority of Muslims do not believe in attacks like this, nor do they support or carry them out. I understand that, because just as people choose their faith by being born into it, I chose to own guns by being born into it and raised as such. And just as 99.9% of Muslims will never hurt anybody, 99.9% of gun owners in the USA will never hurt anyone. But that doesn't stop the ****sticks of society from blaming all of them for the actions of so few.

Islam is a beautiful faith and culture, but people only see the bad things that a tiny few carryout. The terrorists WANT you to hate and shun all Muslims to prove to them that Western society can't accept them. The radical few feed off of division and dream of a world at war. Don't give it to them.

MariaThinks (919 posts)
18. i guess they are not tolerant towards other people's religion

and yet we offend by even questioning the causes of the Islamic radicalization.

after 911, I was forever arguing that it was the act of a lone few. After Malala was shot in the head for daring to go to school, I started to get concerned. After the governor of Punjab in Pakistan was killed by his bodyguard to keep blasphemy on the books as a crime punishable by head - and the assassin became a hero to the masses - I really started to question my tolerance and understanding.

The patter I keep seeing is tolerance in one direction, but not for any other direction. The poor muslim merchant who posted something nice about easter was stabbed to death in ENGLAND. Then there's the attack in Iraq at a soccer game, then Belgium, now this.

too bad she's probably a mole.

[thundley4]

Star Member NutmegYankee (11,381 posts)
43. What is the point you want to make?

But before you start, I can guess that you will probably comment that it's the faith causing it, but I KNOW that is bullshit. The vast majority of Muslims do not believe in attacks like this, nor do they support or carry them out.

Bullshit! A large plurality of Mudslimes in every country polled believes that suicide bombings and the targeting of women and children are justified.

[Carl]

Muzzies that are faithful to their pig shit koran are savages and nothing changes that.

[BlueStateSaint]

The only major religion that has not had a Reformation is . . . Islam.

The fruits of that are manifest in seventh-century thinking in the twenty-first century.

[SVPete]

Star Member NutmegYankee (11,381 posts)
36. radiacalized anybody anyfaith has been doing this across the world.

One look at the Oklahoma City Building on April 19, 1995 or a peak into Sandy Hook Elementary confirms that fact.

  McVeigh was an agnostic. The Sandy Hook killer was all kinds of mentally ill, not religious.

This moral equivalency argument to obfuscate the simple fact that violent jihad is an intrinsic teaching of the Qur'an will always fail, because there is no equivalency. Just a desire to avoid the possibility that there is a Creator, who therefore has authority over his creation.

[SVPete]

The only major religion that has not had a Reformation is . . . Islam.

The fruits of that are manifest in seventh-century thinking in the twenty-first century.

BSS, the Jihadis are Islam's reformation, a return to the core of Islam.

The ironic thing is that while Islam has very few verifiable references to a historic past and mandates 7th Century Arab Raider culture, Christianity is filled with verifiable historic events and people but can adapt to and elevate any culture.

[Karin]

Anybody else tired of this 99.9% bullshit that someone (maybe Obama) made up?  1)  It's not true, and 2)  even if it was, that's a hell of a lot of dangerous people.  Just takes a handful, doesn't it?