if hypertensive Bob were an employer.....

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027690644

Oh my.

TheMastersNemesis (5,484 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:57 AM

If I Were An Employer Would Not Hire Fundamentalist Christians.
 
Because the funny nut Christians are so nasty and want to convert everyone I would not hire them if I were and employer. I would demand to know their church. They want it their way then I will do it my way.

I have not reason to be kind or considerate to them. That is because I have my freedom to NOT associate with these Christians. And I would not want them in my business either.

They won't get it until they are persecuted like they claim to be. So I feel free to persecute and shun them like they shun and persecute other non believers. 

bravenak (24,260 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:58 AM

1. What am I READING? Is this a parody?

It's retarded Bob's reaction to some law passed down there in Georgia.

Star Member Lil Missy (15,542 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:07 AM

3. Uhhm ... You mean .... discriminate against their Religion?

Turin_C3PO (84 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:10 AM

4. That's against the law.
 
Not constitutional.

JDPriestly (55,749 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:20 AM

6. If you did, you would probably get sued and there is a good chance you would lose.

whathehell (16,650 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:28 AM

7. Illegal
 
Have a cup of coffee...You'll feel better.

MohRokTah (12,753 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:30 AM

9. You would lose your business to the first applicant you asked about religion.
 
That's incredibly illegal and comes wiht extreme civil liability.

In most cases, if you were the business owner, the plaintiff would be able to pierce your corporate veil and you would spend the rest of your life being indebted to them.

All for asking what their religion is.

greymattermom (1,546 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:47 AM

20. but sometimes you can tell by dress
 
so, what then? Don't hire anyone wearing long skirts?

WillowTree (3,499 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:09 AM

10. Brilliant!! And then those very Christians would own your business instead of you.

Orrex (48,964 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:32 AM

11. Maybe you could brand them in some visible way
 
so that other employers might identify them more readily.

melm00se (2,976 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 07:59 AM

13. Time for you to
 
read Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, specifically the section entitled "Unlawful Employment Practices".

eShirl (14,107 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:08 AM

15. Not all evangelicals act nasty like that. Why not just ban anyone who acts nasty, regardless?

<<<thinks it's time for his wife to put Ol' Bob away.

[thundley4]

It's a moot point. No DUmmie is willing to work hard enough to own a business.

[Carl]

Countdown to when the crazy pogo stick self deletes as he always does when he out stupids himself.

[Big Dog]

Bob, you bitter old snail, I recommend you call your doctor inmediately. Your gangrene is flaring up and poisoning your brain again.

[BannedFromDU]

Bob, you bitter old snail, I recommend you call your doctor inmediately. Your gangrene is flaring up and poisoning your brain again.

     Bob will soon delete this. Any Banzin-ite worth his salt knows that Bob occasionally sends up trial balloons like this, and when he gets ridiculed, he takes it down.

     As for the content, I'm not bothered, because I wouldn't hire cantankerous old one-footed piss-reeking yellow-hired relics like Bob.

[fatboy]

Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:37 AM

raccoon (24,201 posts)

18. I used to work beside such a fundie Xian. This was in the 80's. He was a PITA,
 
judgemental, racist, sexist, and tried to convert everyone. And of course, thought that he was superior to
everyone else. I was living with a guy which he thought was terrible, of course.

If that happened now, I'd go to HR in a Tennessee minute.

This entire thread is theory because hop-a-long Bob isn't ever going to hire anyone and Dummy raccoon isn't headed to HR because there is no HR when your unemployed.

[SVPete]

To what GA law is TMN reacting? Something that exempts religious orgs from laws that courts might construe as requiring religious orgs to hire people whose lives violate the religious org's core values and beliefs?

Whatever. I wouldn't want to work for some one that hateful; I suspect even some atheists and agnostics wouldn't, either. Evangelical Christians are sufficiently numerous that TMN's refusal to hire talented people who happen to be Christians would, over time, enable his competitors to drive him out of business.

Looks like a good number of DU-folk are losing patience with TMN's hatefulness.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

To what GA law is TMN reacting? Something that exempts religious orgs from laws that courts might construe as requiring religious orgs to hire people whose lives violate the religious org's core values and beliefs?

Whatever. I wouldn't want to work for some one that hateful; I suspect even some atheists and agnostics wouldn't, either. Evangelical Christians are sufficiently numerous that TMN's refusal to hire talented people who happen to be Christians would, over time, enable his competitors to drive him out of business.

Looks like a good number of DU-folk are losing patience with TMN's hatefulness.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgias-religious-liberty-law-stirs-backlash-from-business/


By Aimee Picchi MoneyWatch March 16, 2016, 9:32 AM
​Georgia's "religious liberty law" stirs backlash from business

Last Updated Mar 16, 2016 12:32 PM EDT

While Georgia is known for peaches and pecans, some business leaders are warning that the state may become better known for a controversial bill that would allow discrimination against gay people.

The bill, which has passed Georgia's House and Senate, would prohibit "any adverse action" against organizations or people with "a sincerely held religious believe regarding lawful marriage between ... a man and a woman. Billed by supporters as a "religious freedom" law, the legislation has drawn concern from a number of businesses that say it will hurt the state and make it less competitive on several fronts.

One such business is telecommunications firm 373K, which was founded by engineer and developer Kelvin Williams. His company is planning to move to another state -- possibly Delaware or Nevada -- because of the bill, which he worries would make it more difficult to recruit workers.

"For the past year we've been building a global carrier network. We have to start hiring more," Williams said. "I can't always find the perfect person in Georgia. I might have to reach out across the world. Would I want to move to Georgia if someone else offered me a job after this? The answer was no."

[wasp69]

TheMastersNemesis (5,484 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:57 AM

If I Were An Employer...

But you're not, Bob.  You're nothing more than a hateful, bitter, old man who is missing a foot.

[FlaGator]

One such business is telecommunications firm 373K, which was founded by engineer and developer Kelvin Williams. His company is planning to move to another state -- possibly Delaware or Nevada -- because of the bill, which he worries would make it more difficult to recruit workers.

"For the past year we've been building a global carrier network. We have to start hiring more," Williams said. "I can't always find the perfect person in Georgia. I might have to reach out across the world. Would I want to move to Georgia if someone else offered me a job after this? The answer was no."

That really sounds like a lame excuse to me. I think the guy seems to have been planning to move and is now using this law as an excuse. All the law is saying is that if a bakery doesn't want to make a wedding cake for a homosexual couple's wedding then said couple can't sue in response. Is this really that big of an issue when there are 10 other bakeries for each christian owned bakery that is more than willing to perform the service.

Seriously here, if a black bakery owner didn't want to make me a birthday cake because I was white then fine. I'll give my money to someone who wants it. If refusing gays service gets to be enough of an economic burden on business owners then the situation will take care of itself.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

That really sounds like a lame excuse to me. I think the guy seems to have been planning to move and is now using this law as an excuse. All the law is saying is that if a bakery doesn't want to make a wedding cake for a homosexual couple's wedding then said couple can't sue in response. Is this really that big of an issue when there are 10 other bakeries for each christian owned bakery that is more than willing to perform the service.

Seriously here, if a black bakery owner didn't want to make me a birthday cake because I was white then fine. I'll give my money to someone who wants it. If refusing gays service gets to be enough of an economic burden on business owners then the situation will take care of itself.

If a town had 100 bakeries, a gay couple would actively search for the ONE that wouldn't do it, and sue, get publicity etc., even though 99 would do it with no problem.

They (the lbgqxyzabc), look for those that won't.

[I_B_Perky]

raccoon (24,201 posts)

18. I used to work beside such a fundie Xian. This was in the 80's. He was a PITA,
 
judgemental, racist, sexist, and tried to convert everyone. And of course, thought that he was superior to
everyone else. I was living with a guy which he thought was terrible, of course.

If that happened now, I'd go to HR in a Tennessee minute.

Translation: I was lazy and the guy looked down on me. He also got raises and I didn't. Then I saw him coming out of a church one day and made this whole story up.

[I_B_Perky]

If a town had 100 bakeries, a gay couple would actively search for the ONE that wouldn't do it, and sue, get publicity etc., even though 99 would do it with no problem.

They (the lbgqxyzabc), look for those that won't.

All the bakeries have to do is quote a high price and the queers will go somewhere else.  Me?  I don't care who they are.  If I am in the business of selling cakes I would sell one to ISIS if they paid for it.  As soon as I got the money I would turn them into the FBI.   

[Patriot Guard Rider]

All the bakeries have to do is quote a high price and the queers will go somewhere else.  Me?  I don't care who they are.  If I am in the business of selling cakes I would sell one to ISIS if they paid for it.  As soon as I got the money I would turn them into the FBI.   

All a bakery has to do is say they WILL bake the cake and the queers will go elsewhere. They're looking for someone to say no.

[I_B_Perky]

All a bakery has to do is say they WILL bake the cake and the queers will go elsewhere. They're looking for someone to say no.

At a high price.   

[98ZJUSMC]

TheMastersNemesis (5,484 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:57 AM

If I Were An Employer...

[98ZJUSMC]

raccoon (24,201 posts)

18. I used to work beside such a fundie Xian. This was in the 80's. He was a PITA, judgemental, racist, sexist, and tried to convert everyone. And of course, thought that he was superior to everyone else. I was living with a guy which he thought was terrible, of course. 

If that happened now, I'd go to HR in a Tennessee minute.

Translation: I was lazy and the guy looked down on me. He also got raises and I didn't. Then I saw him coming out of a church one day and made this whole story up.

[landofconfusion80]

They weren't complaining about fred phelps (D) being refused service when his tires were slashed at one of his protests.  In theory, he could've sued the tire place just as easily as a fruit wanting a wedding cake.

[SVPete]

That really sounds like a lame excuse to me. I think the guy seems to have been planning to move and is now using this law as an excuse. All the law is saying is that if a bakery doesn't want to make a wedding cake for a homosexual couple's wedding then said couple can't sue in response. Is this really that big of an issue when there are 10 other bakeries for each christian owned bakery that is more than willing to perform the service.

Seriously here, if a black bakery owner didn't want to make me a birthday cake because I was white then fine. I'll give my money to someone who wants it. If refusing gays service gets to be enough of an economic burden on business owners then the situation will take care of itself.

There's a reason the guy's comment doesn't make sense. From the CBS article:

One such business is telecommunications firm 373K, which was founded by engineer and developer Kelvin Williams. His company is planning to move to another state -- possibly Delaware or Nevada -- because of the bill, which he worries would make it more difficult to recruit workers.

"For the past year we've been building a global carrier network. We have to start hiring more," Williams said. "I can't always find the perfect person in Georgia. I might have to reach out across the world. Would I want to move to Georgia if someone else offered me a job after this? The answer was no."

Williams, who is gay, said that his staff voted in support of the decision to move the company's headquarters, although employees who want to stay in Georgia may do so. ...

It doesn't make sense because Kelvin Williams isn't moving his company based on actual issues with recruiting and hiring. He's a gay male lashing out as best he can against a government that is protecting the Constitutional rights of people he hates.

OK ... if I'm understanding 373K's LinkedIn page correctly, there's something CBS left out of its article. 373K is classified by LinkedIn as having 10 or fewer employees. 373K's employees' favorite coffee place probably has more employees! IOW, CBS gave readers the false impression that 373K is a medium-sized or larger company that is growing in market share and employees. In reality, 373K is a very small fish in a hugemongous ocean! IOW, SEEBS didn't lie, they just selected facts to deceive.

[Mr Mannn]

Countdown to when the crazy pogo stick self deletes as he always does when he out stupids himself.

TheMastersNemesis (5,484 posts)

This message was self-deleted by its author

[SVPete]

  H-5 apiece to Carl and Mr M!

I suspect there's some interesting stuff in the background of this (and similar) episode(s) of TMN's bigoted and hateful outbursts. Maybe TMN was late in taking a dose of some med? Maybe he got a PM or two along the lines of, "Bob, you're a faithful Democrat and member of DU, but your outbursts of hate and spite are too much! You make yourself look bad, and you make DU look bad. Please self-delete your post. If you don't we will, and have to give you a time-out as well. If we are forced to do that your BP will shoot through the ceiling, and you might not survive it. Please make it easy on all concerned and self-delete." My version is probably much less verbose than what Skinner would write, but I think it's otherwise quite plausible.

[FiddyBeowulf]

There's a reason the guy's comment doesn't make sense. From the CBS article:

It doesn't make sense because Kelvin Williams isn't moving his company based on actual issues with recruiting and hiring. He's a gay male lashing out as best he can against a government that is protecting the Constitutional rights of people he hates.

OK ... if I'm understanding 373K's LinkedIn page correctly, there's something CBS left out of its article. 373K is classified by LinkedIn as having 10 or fewer employees. 373K's employees' favorite coffee place probably has more employees! IOW, CBS gave readers the false impression that 373K is a medium-sized or larger company that is growing in market share and employees. In reality, 373K is a very small fish in a hugemongous ocean! IOW, SEEBS didn't lie, they just selected facts to deceive.

http://www.businessinsider.com/373k-leaving-georgia-over-anti-gay-bill-2016-3

373K is a telecom provider with about 20 employees

"One reason we decided to leave is because our employees are from around the world. You name it, we’ve got it here. What I tell people is that, under this law, if it is to become a law, I only have two employees that would be acceptable in the state of Georgia, only two heterosexuals that have only been married once," he says.

His team includes people of multiple faiths (Muslim, Buddhists, atheists), single divorced parents, and members of the LGBT community, all of whom he fears could be targets of discrimination, or worse, in Georgia's current political climate.

Sounds like he discriminates against straight people.

[franksolich]

Ol' Bob deleted it after it got alerted on.  It was allowed to stand, but probably he figured it wasn't so good from a public-relations standpoint.

stone space (4,457 posts)    Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:35 PM

34. Jury results:
 
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 Explanation: Au contraire, dear alerter: Religious bigotry is the coin of the realm at DU. It's why I don't send money anymore. I've made my (sort-of) peace with that fact, because the religious bigots here are far too numerous and far too popular to ever be dislodged or even discomfited.

   Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
 Explanation: While I am tempted to hide it for atrocious grammar, it is not "religious bigotry" as he is pretty much targeting "bigots" for a taste of the own medicine. It is poorly written, but that is what I see. He is not advocating other people do this, only stating what he personally would do in a hypothetical situation.

   Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
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<<<thinks will start screen-capturing Ol' Bob's posts from now on.

[SVPete]

What I tell people is that, under this law, if it is to become a law, I only have two employees that would be acceptable in the state of Georgia, only two heterosexuals that have only been married once," he says.

Williams has to misrepresent the proposed law - in two ways - to make his point. He'd have to search long and hard to find a business or non-profit org that would refuse to hire a divorcee or single parent for "religious reasons". Williams knows no MSM outlet will call out his deceptiveness.

Kudos to BusinessInsider for including the information that lets its readers willing to see it recognize this character's lack of significance and other MSM outlets' hype.

[SVPete]

Ol' Bob deleted it after it got alerted on.  It was allowed to stand, but probably he figured it wasn't so good from a public-relations standpoint.

<<<thinks will start screen-capturing Ol' Bob's posts from now on.

The latter idea seems appropriate, and ditto for "Jury results" pages.

This vote and comment,

Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
 Explanation: Au contraire, dear alerter: Religious bigotry is the coin of the realm at DU. It's why I don't send money anymore. I've made my (sort-of) peace with that fact, because the religious bigots here are far too numerous and far too popular to ever be dislodged or even discomfited.

captures DU reality while largely agreeing with TMN's bigotry and ignorance.

This vote and comment captures DU reality by expressing it:

Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
 Explanation: While I am tempted to hide it for atrocious grammar, it is not "religious bigotry" as he is pretty much targeting "bigots" for a taste of the own medicine. It is poorly written, but that is what I see. He is not advocating other people do this, only stating what he personally would do in a hypothetical situation.

Personally, I wish TMN were a business owner and did discriminate against Evangelical Christians. He could "watch" his competitors hire the talented people he (TMN) refused to hire. TMN could watch those talented people out-perform the less-talented people he (TMN) did hire and slowly drive him (TMN) out of business (and thereby fuel TMN's hatred and bitterness).

Some people learn the easy way, without the unpleasant experience. Some people learn after the unpleasant experience. A few people refuse to learn despite repeated unpleasant experiences. I perceive TMN to be one of the latter.