Proglodytes thrown into deep spiritual crisis

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

This is second only to aborting babies with the "gay" gene...

True Earthling (715 posts)

Eliminating GMOs would increase greenhouse gas emissions significantly and increase global warming..
according to this Purdue University study...

Study: Eliminating GMOs would take toll on environment, economies

https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2016/Q1/study-eliminating-gmos-would-take-toll-on-environment,-economies.html

"This is not an argument to keep or lose GMOs," Tyner said. "It's just a simple question: What happens if they go away?" The economists gathered data and found that 18 million farmers in 28 countries planted about 181 million hectares of GMO crops in 2014, with about 40 percent of that in the United States. They fed that data into the Purdue­-developed GTAP­BIO model, which has been used to examine economic consequences of changes to agricultural, energy, trade and environmental policies.

Eliminating all GMOs in the United States, the model shows corn yield declines of 11.2 percent on average. Soybeans lose 5.2 percent of their yields and cotton 18.6 percent. To make up for that loss, about 102,000 hectares of U.S. forest and pasture would have to be converted to cropland and 1.1 million hectares globally for the average case.

Greenhouse gas emissions increase significantly because with lower crop yields, more land is needed for agricultural production, and it must be converted from pasture and forest. "In general, the land­use change, the pasture and forest you need to convert to cropland to produce the amount of food that you need is greater than all of the land­use change that we have previously estimated for the U.S. ethanol program," Tyner said.

In other words, the increase in greenhouse gas emissions that would come from banning GMOs in the United States would be greater than the amount needed to create enough land to meet federal mandates of about 15 billion gallons of biofuels. "Some of the same groups that oppose GMOs want to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to reduce the potential for global warming," Tyner said. "The result we get is that you can't have it both ways. If you want to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in agriculture, an important tool to do that is with GMO traits."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027655246

Many fires rage as their gods have abandoned them.

[SVPete]

The whole GMO Flapdoodle is a Luddite word game. Everything we eat - plant or animal - is both "Genetically Modified" and a mutant. Mutations happen naturally, and are mostly pretty much innocuous. Every food plant and every food animal has been genetically modified by selective breeding, cross-breeding, and hybridization. The difference between what mankind has been doing for millennia and what is being done now is the method and specificity. And the ready availability of a corporate bogeyman, Monsanto.

Like all such conspiracy theories, it is contradicted by two realities. First, grand-scale conspiracies are all but impossible, because the 100s and 1000s of people in on it are 100s and 1000s of potential leaks. Second, what entity, individual or corporation, is so stupid as to kill off the customers on whose continued business the individual or corporation depends in the long term?

[Sarcasm] And now, if you all will excuse me, I need to go deposit my monthly retainer check from Monsanto. [/Sarcasm]

[FiddyBeowulf]

The whole GMO Flapdoodle is a Luddite word game. Everything we eat - plant or animal - is both "Genetically Modified" and a mutant. Mutations happen naturally, and are mostly pretty much innocuous. Every food plant and every food animal has been genetically modified by selective breeding, cross-breeding, and hybridization. The difference between what mankind has been doing for millennia and what is being done now is the method and specificity. And the ready availability of a corporate bogeyman, Monsanto.

Like all such conspiracy theories, it is contradicted by two realities. First, grand-scale conspiracies are all but impossible, because the 100s and 1000s of people in on it are 100s and 1000s of potential leaks. Second, what entity, individual or corporation, is so stupid as to kill off the customers on whose continued business the individual or corporation depends in the long term?

[Sarcasm] And now, if you all will excuse me, I need to go deposit my monthly retainer check from Monsanto. [/Sarcasm]

Speaking of GMOs and Monsanto, it looks like they struck again.   
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-chipotle-mexican-health-idUSKCN0WB22B

[USA4ME]

The result we get is that you can't have it both ways.

A succinct summary to the whole of liberalism.

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[Karin]

Very contentious thread.  Here's this asshole again:

Response to True Earthling (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:03 AM

951-Riverside (7,234 posts)

18. Less humans = Less GMOs
 
Until we start eliminating the useless consumer class by a billion or two, our globe will continue to heat up.

Humans are a disease and there needs to be a cure ASAP.

Response to Humanist_Activist (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:51 AM

brett_jv (1,057 posts)

20. I'll happily be first to NOT have the little resource-suckers known as 'kids' ...
 
I'm turning 50 this year, and have proudly and completely voluntarily ... NOT reproduced. 

 

[SVPete]

Speaking of GMOs and Monsanto, it looks like they struck again.   
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-chipotle-mexican-health-idUSKCN0WB22B

I think there was a thread several weeks ago on DU for just that angle on the Monsanto-is-the-bogey-man conspiracy-theory-complex.

A friend who is into the GMO hysteria was sharing it on FB a few days ago. I didn't want to blow my cover as a paid Monsanto-shill yet, so I didn't say anything.

[SVPete]

Maybe we could get "True Earthling", 951-R, and "brett_jv" to join the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. And act on their supposed conviction.

[Big Dog]

Maybe we could get "True Earthling", 951-R, and "brett_jv" to join the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement. And act on their supposed conviction.

The DUmmies favor depopulation, yet the oppose guns because "guns kill people".

Contradictory, they are.

[VelvetElvis]

951-Riverside (7,234 posts)

18. Less humans = Less GMOs
 
Until we start eliminating the useless consumer class by a billion or two, our globe will continue to heat up.

Does that not sound like a textbook definition of a DUmmy or what?

So 951-R is suicidal.  Who knew?

[I_B_Perky]

Response to True Earthling (Original post)

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:03 AM

951-Riverside (7,234 posts)

18. Less humans = Less GMOs
 
Until we start eliminating the useless consumer class by a billion or two, our globe will continue to heat up.

Humans are a disease and there needs to be a cure ASAP.

OK Dummie... so when is your worthless ass going to off yourself? 

<crickets>

[SVPete]

Until we start eliminating the useless consumer class by a billion or two, our globe will continue to heat up.

Did any DU-member have the temerity to ask TE to define "the useless consumer class"? His comment reminds me of something written by Charles Dickens over 150 years ago:

"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

To which the Second Ghost later retorted:

"Man," said the Ghost, "if man you be in heart, not adamant, forbear that wicked cant until you have discovered What the surplus is, and Where it is. Will you decide what men shall live, what men shall die? It may be, that in the sight of Heaven, you are more worthless and less fit to live than millions like this poor man's child."

[FlaGator]

i
I consume, ergo I am.

[98ZJUSMC]

       

The whole GMO Flapdoodle is a Luddite word game.

Exactly.

Until we start eliminating the useless consumer class by a billion or two, our globe will continue to heat up.

Where's the "Conservatives" entrance?  Or, do we just used the main gate?

[Ptarmigan]

The DUmmies favor depopulation, yet the oppose guns because "guns kill people".

Contradictory, they are.

Leftists are filled with contradictions. Their mind is so screwed up.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

"Riverside" is a hideous, sub- human ghoul who openly seeks genocide in the name of "Saving Mother Earth."
He embodies all the negative qualities people associate with environmentalists (i.e. He's not acting from a love of the environment as much as he is from a hatred of humanity), and will probably end up killing someone some day.
I am VERY glad that "brett_jv" has chosen not to poison the gene pool with his offering.

[miskie]

Leftists are filled with contradictions. Their mind is so screwed up.

Well, not really - In this case, leftists oppose guns because most of the time other leftists die because of them. Also, their desire to eliminate large swaths of humanity doesn't apply to other leftists.

[jukin]

Until we start eliminating the useless consumer class by a billion or two, our globe will continue to heat up.

Change that to "useless parasites" and I'm all in. Of course 97% of the DUmp will be sent to the showers.

[BattleHymn]

Work sets you free.  You should try it sometime, DUmmies.