Texas pyramid explains one of the reasons he's supporting Messalina Agrippina

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110766562

Oh my.

Gothmog (26,909 posts)    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:54 PM

Clinton Voters Like Obama More Than Sanders Supporters Do
 
Nate Silver's site has some good polling on this important difference between Sanders and Clinton supporter. I admit that I think that President Obama has been an outstanding POTUS and that is one reason why I am supporting Hillary Clinton http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/voters-who-like-obama-like-clinton/

The bottom half of the table shows attitudes that were measured in the wake of the 2012 election, between November 2012 and January 2013. We see, for instance, that Clinton and Sanders supporters differ little on questions about overall government spending or targeted assistance for African-Americans. Like the Iraq War, the Affordable Care Act may divide the candidates (paywalled), but it does not seem to split their supporters. Nor do immigration attitudes or measures of prejudice against blacks or Latinos.1

But notice the Obama feeling thermometer. Even back in the aftermath of Obama’s 2012 victory, those who would become Clinton supporters in 2016 rated Obama at 0.82 on the 0-1 scale, as opposed to just 0.72 for those who would become Sanders supporters. That difference remains sizable even when looking only at non-black respondents. In recent debates with Sanders, Clinton’s embrace of Obama has been striking. But more than a tactical play for black voters, that embrace may reflect deeper differences in the two candidates’ bases of support.

And it’s not just about Obama. As the table’s final line shows, Sanders voters were markedly more likely to agree that “at present, I feel very critical of our political system,” scoring 0.66 on a scale from 0 (“strongly disagree”) to 1 (“strongly agree”). Sanders backers are notably more disaffected, a fact which might explain their reluctance to back a longtime insider like Clinton.

It is always tempting to see the current campaign in light of past ones, especially when one of the same candidates is on the ballot. But the divisions between Clinton and Sanders are not simply a reflection of those between Clinton and Obama eight years ago, with Sanders stepping into the role of Obama. Voters’ orientation toward the political establishment — in this case, Clinton and Obama — is an issue that wasn’t present in 2008. And while Edwards has left the political stage, the appeal of his economic populism lives on.

Sanders supporters and Clinton supporters have very different viewpoints on President Obama. 

SunSeeker (16,578 posts)    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:59 PM

1. Yup. Pretty much works that way on DU as well.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (10,246 posts)    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:10 PM

11. Noticed that too
 
Some of the shrillest Obama critics on DU are avid Sanders supporters.

Andy823 (7,789 posts)    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 06:51 PM

13. Exactly
 
They hated Obama, they hated the Democratic party, they hated any politician that didn't meet their purity test, and they turned all that hate on to Hillary. 

yallerdawg (4,087 posts)    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:03 PM

2. Much of Sanders' campaign has been a three-for-one.
 
You get to bash all three of the most successful, prominent Democrats of the last 25 years.

Issue after issue - trade, campaign finance, guns, taxes, crime, Wall Street, healthcare, race relations - you name it, "Democrats" have failed!

Which is a constant reminder - DINO.

otohara (23,247 posts)    Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:02 PM

14. Angry Candidate Appeals
 
to angry electorate.

Isn't Sanders also a longtime insider? 

Uh huh.

[franksolich]

In case one's forgotten the massive man-mountain.

comment 3139:
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81827.3125

[USA4ME]

In case one's forgotten the massive man-mountain.

comment 3139:
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81827.3125

WOW!!  I know whole law firms that don't weigh that much. Building included.

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[franksolich]

WOW!!  I know whole law firms that don't weigh that much. Building included.

Yeah.  He is a big 'un, ain't he?

[USA4ME]

Yeah.  He is a big 'un, ain't he?

I guarantee you he doesn't ever need a napkin when eating. There's no way on the planet he's going to let a single edible atom of food get away. And just looking at him you can tell he's as dumb as they get.

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[BannedFromDU]

I guarantee you he doesn't ever need a napkin when eating. There's no way on the planet he's going to let a single edible atom of food get away. And just looking at him you can tell he's as dumb as they get.

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VOICEOVER

"Have you been unfairly turned away from a buffet? Have you ever gone into a clothing store and been told that only Cloth World has your size? Have you bought two seats for an airplane ride, only to find that they'd need to be adjacent aisle seats?"

Zoom Out (WAY out). Two men dressed in what appear to be bedsheets sit behind a table.

Lawyer 1: "We feel your pain, and now it's time for THEM to feel it. We here at Gothmog & Laserhaas have been in your shoes (and by the way, we're sorry, we'll replace them as soon as possible), and we know how you feel. We'll take your tormentors to Court, and we'll WIN."

Lawyer 2: "That's right. We here at Gothmog & Laserhaas won't rest until you get the respect you deserve, or until, well, we need a rest. There's like 8 steps at the courthouse, you know."

Lawyer 1: "No, there's like 10 steps."

Lawyer 2: "Well, there's a number of steps, which once we climb them, we'll fight for you like..."

Lawyer 1: "...like there's only one slice left."

Lawyer 2: "Oh, **** you, you'd already had more than half of it, you sweaty bastard."

Lawyer 1: "Bullshit, I went to take a dump after two slices, and when I came back..."

FADE

VOICEOVER

"Gothmog Laserhaas will take your case, and they'll win. Call for an initial consultation. Bring donuts."

[SVPete]

Interesting on a couple of levels.

Party-Line and Party Loyalty Uber Alles! Thou shalt not admit a D party leader F'ed up!

The many disappointed by Obama's failure to attempt the Change they Hoped for, particularly the ones hoping for heads rolling down Wall Street and out the doors of corporate offices, stayed quiet and loyal during most of BHO's Administration. But now they are speaking and acting out, and the D Party establishment people are having difficulty herding them into line.

Interestingly, the D and R Parties are both going through analogous establishment-constituent base divides.

[Big Dog]

VOICEOVER

"Have you been unfairly turned away from a buffet? Have you ever gone into a clothing store and been told that only Cloth World has your size? Have you bought two seats for an airplane ride, only to find that they'd need to be adjacent aisle seats?"

Zoom Out (WAY out). Two men dressed in what appear to be bedsheets sit behind a table.

Lawyer 1: "We feel your pain, and now it's time for THEM to feel it. We here at Gothmog & Laserhaas have been in your shoes (and by the way, we're sorry, we'll replace them as soon as possible), and we know how you feel. We'll take your tormentors to Court, and we'll WIN."

Lawyer 2: "That's right. We here at Gothmog & Laserhaas won't rest until you get the respect you deserve, or until, well, we need a rest. There's like 8 steps at the courthouse, you know."

Lawyer 1: "No, there's like 10 steps."

Lawyer 2: "Well, there's a number of steps, which once we climb them, we'll fight for you like..."

Lawyer 1: "...like there's only one slice left."

Lawyer 2: "Oh, **** you, you'd already had more than half of it, you sweaty bastard."

Lawyer 1: "Bullshit, I went to take a dump after two slices, and when I came back..."

FADE

VOICEOVER

"Gothmog Laserhaas will take your case, and they'll win. Call for an initial consultation. Bring donuts."

 

 

[franksolich]

.....Lawyer 1: "We feel your pain, and now it's time for THEM to feel it. We here at Gothmog & Laserhaas have been in your shoes (and by the way, we're sorry, we'll replace them as soon as possible), and we know how you feel. We'll take your tormentors to Court, and we'll WIN.".....

in case one's new here and not "getting it":

comment 3139
comment 3141
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81827.3125

But of course if one's new here, one can't go there, but whatever.  Sorry.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

in case one's new here and not "getting it":

comment 3139
comment 3141
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81827.3125

But of course if one's new here, one can't go there, but whatever.  Sorry.

RE: 3141 - gotta love the oversize sweat pants with a button down shirt. A real fashion statement there. Like black knee high socks with sandals.

[franksolich]

RE: 3141 - gotta love the oversize sweat pants with a button down shirt. A real fashion statement there. Like black knee high socks with sandals.

The guy's a professional poker player, and apparently does okay at it.

I dunno what his game is, posing as an attorney on Skins's island.

He's in the past claimed residence in Oklahoma.....and Missouri.

[Karin]

BFDU...

Those enormous sweatpants...
         

[GOBUCKS]

Atman McGrath can take heart in the knowledge that he's not the DUmp's worst dresser.

But that awful wedding suit should still clinch second place.

[BannedFromDU]

in case one's new here and not "getting it":

comment 3139
comment 3141
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81827.3125

But of course if one's new here, one can't go there, but whatever.  Sorry.

     Hostess Notes version: dudes are fat.

[SVPete]

     Hostess Notes version: dudes are fat.

They're twice the man I am, and I ain't slender.

[USA4ME]

in case one's new here and not "getting it":

comment 3139
comment 3141
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81827.3125

But of course if one's new here, one can't go there, but whatever.  Sorry.

The word "girth" immediately comes to mind.

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[SVPete]

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The word "girth" immediately comes to mind.

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IOW, they're Girthers, .

[landofconfusion80]

I guarantee you he doesn't ever need a napkin when eating. There's no way on the planet he's going to let a single edible atom of food get away. And just looking at him you can tell he's as dumb as they get.

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Well, of course not, he probably has crumbs of hostess pie pieces maintaining orbit not unlike the rings of saturn