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Trump will be GOP NOM. How do we destroy him?
« on: February 23, 2016, 12:30:06 PM »
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Texas Blues (53 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027631431

Trump WILL be the GOP nominee. Suggestions to destroying him before the election?


Donald Trump will be the GOP nominee against Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders (it sucks, but it's probably Hillary.)

I know we are holding off until we know he's the nominee and nobody else can get on the general ballot. After that happens, What can we do to destroy his campaign? I'm not talking issue wise, but what legal steps can we take, potential civil sanctions against one of his many business interests, suing him from here to eternity in every court to take away his ability to run, and most importantly, to depress any GOP vote and prevent any defection from the democrats? Ideally, I'd like to see him indicted in October.

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2. before the election?

Only nominating Sanders will insure his destruction.

If his opponent is Hillary it becomes a fight between two 1%'ers, theres little leverage she could have over him on economics.

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8. Democratic candidate needs to select a Hispanic for his or her running mate. Preferably Castro!

What happens when Trump has Cruz or another Hispanic as his VP?

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10. Maybe the Republican "establishment" will do it themselves.

So far they haven't had any luck kneecapping him, but they must know that Trump will destroy the party - whether or not he actually is elected president. If it looks like he's likely to win the nomination they'll throw a ton of money and PAC support at Rubio (nobody likes Cruz, not even the GOP)

So far Trump hasn't actually done anything illegal (that we know about) or actionable, so there's nothing to be done in those respects. He's merely made use of an existing, flawed system to demagogue his way into the hearts and minds of angry low-information voters, of whom there are a lot.The GOP is in a bind because they run the risk that Trump will go third-party if he feels they are disrespecting him (which they are, but not too overtly, yet). That would be our dream scenario.

Otherwise it looks like it very well might be Trump vs. Clinton or Sanders. And that's where it gets interesting, or scary. If it's Trump vs. Clinton, that's a non-establishment candidate vs. an establishment candidate. Will enough establishment GOPers swallow their loathing for Clinton and vote for her because they think Trump will be an even bigger disaster? After all, Hillary is at least as much a friend of Wall Street as Trump. Trump is rich enough that he's never needed money from Goldman Sachs and their ilk, but those folks have already bought Hillary so they might be more inclined to vote for her. Trump is a wild card and the establishment can't count on him doing their bidding.

If it's Trump vs. Sanders, it's a contest between two non-establishment candidates. In that case the establishment GOPers might hold their noses and vote for Trump because they figure Bernie might try to derail their gravy train. However, Bernie will bring in the young people, anti-establishment independents who are smart enough to know what Trump really is, women, Latinos and other minorities. Maybe a lot of Catholics, too, since Trump started dissing the Pope.

If the GOP figures out a way to sideline Trump and nominate Rubio instead, both Dems will have to compete with a much younger candidate. Rubio's problem is that he's not a very good campaigner, but the GOP establishment will do their best to prop him up. Rubio is pretty weak sauce but he might be able to beat Hillary in a close election (if Trump doesn't compete as a third-party candidate), because she is so strongly disliked by most GOPers and a lot of independents. I think Bernie could kick his ass, though.

In any event, I think we have to wait and see how the GOP primaries play out

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11. I did NOT indicate doing anything ILLEGAL nor UNETHICAL.

Hmmm...let me rephrase it a bit. A lot of people think I'm talking about doing something that is underhanded, when it SHOULD be our policy to vet him as unacceptable before the actual election in this manner, particularly with is probability of committing actionable civil and even criminal violations in his career.

I simply want to make it so if he's still running on Election Day, he loses 50 states and DC, at least in a rational world.

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Re: Trump will be GOP NOM. How do we destroy him?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2016, 01:31:54 PM »
Supposedly, the Clinton campaign has told Julian Castro to brush up on his Spanish . . . :whistling:
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Re: Trump will be GOP NOM. How do we destroy him?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2016, 01:55:07 PM »
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10. Maybe the Republican "establishment" will do it themselves.

So far they haven't had any luck kneecapping him, but they must know that Trump will destroy the party...

If it's Trump vs. Sanders...

The Dem establishment is kneecapping Sanders in the most obvious of ways, so why are you blind to that? If you understood it, you would have never brought up the possibility of "Trump vs Sanders".

And speaking of destroying parties, Sanders would do a lot worse to the Dems than Trump would to the GOP.

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Re: Trump will be GOP NOM. How do we destroy him?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2016, 02:57:38 PM »
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but what legal steps can we take, potential civil sanctions against one of his many business interests, suing him from here to eternity in every court to take away his ability to run, and most importantly, to depress any GOP vote and prevent any defection from the democrats? Ideally, I'd like to see him indicted in October.
The only person most likely to be indicted in October will be hillary. 
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Re: Trump will be GOP NOM. How do we destroy him?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2016, 05:47:33 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on February 23, 2016, 01:55:07 PM
The Dem establishment is kneecapping Sanders in the most obvious of ways, so why are you blind to that? If you understood it, you would have never brought up the possibility of "Trump vs Sanders".

And speaking of destroying parties, Sanders would do a lot worse to the Dems than Trump would to the GOP.

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Imagine if you will, a world where DUmmies get the answer to their dreams in Sanders. Then, like an episode of Twilight Zone, their world collapses when they finally understand THEY have to pay into the pot, just like everyone else.

The gnashing of teeth would be epic.
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Re: Trump will be GOP NOM. How do we destroy him?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2016, 07:42:00 PM »
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Trump WILL be the GOP nominee. Suggestions to destroying him before the election?


Donald Trump will be the GOP nominee against Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders (it sucks, but it's probably Hillary.)

I know we are holding off until we know he's the nominee and nobody else can get on the general ballot. After that happens, What can we do to destroy his campaign? I'm not talking issue wise, but what legal steps can we take, potential civil sanctions against one of his many business interests, suing him from here to eternity in every court to take away his ability to run, and most importantly, to depress any GOP vote and prevent any defection from the democrats? Ideally, I'd like to see him indicted in October.


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Re: Trump will be GOP NOM. How do we destroy him?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2016, 07:45:09 PM »
What to do?  Keep inviting islamo scum, illegals, rapists and other vermin into the USA and sit back and votch das blinkin lights.
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Re: Trump will be GOP NOM. How do we destroy him?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2016, 11:43:23 PM »
Quote from: USA4ME on February 23, 2016, 01:55:07 PM
The Dem establishment is kneecapping Sanders in the most obvious of ways, so why are you blind to that? If you understood it, you would have never brought up the possibility of "Trump vs Sanders".

And speaking of destroying parties, Sanders would do a lot worse to the Dems than Trump would to the GOP.

^^^true, that.  Very true.
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