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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027621827 Recursion (45,426 posts) Seattle man tests transgender rule by undressing in women's locker roomhttp://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/02/17/transgender-rule-washington-state-man-undresses-locker-room/80501904/ Sigh Seattle Parks and Recreation is facing a first-of-a-kind challenge to gender bathroom rules. Last week, a man undressed in a women's locker room, citing a new state rule that allows people to choose a bathroom based on gender identity. Around 5:30 p.m. on Feb. 8, a man wearing board shorts entered the women's locker room at Evans Pool and took of his shirt, according to Seattle Parks and Recreation. Women alerted staff, who told the man to leave, but he said "the law has changed and I have a right to be here."
Behind the Aegis (38,692 posts) Transphobia is not a joke!
Recursion (45,426 posts) Seattle man tests transgender rule by undressing in women's locker room http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/02/17/transgender-rule-washington-state-man-undresses-locker-room/80501904/ Sigh Seattle Parks and Recreation is facing a first-of-a-kind challenge to gender bathroom rules. Last week, a man undressed in a women's locker room, citing a new state rule that allows people to choose a bathroom based on gender identity. Around 5:30 p.m. on Feb. 8, a man wearing board shorts entered the women's locker room at Evans Pool and took of his shirt, according to Seattle Parks and Recreation. Women alerted staff, who told the man to leave, but he said "the law has changed and I have a right to be here."
LisaL (26,482 posts) 23. And if he did claim he identified as a woman, they wouldn't be able to ask him to leave.That's one great law right there.
Tien1985 (831 posts) 26. Yeah, it is a good law.One asshole shouldn't get in the way of equality for thousands of people. They could easily follow up and prove that he is not transgender.
LisaL (26,482 posts) 28. How are they going to prove he isn't transgender?Per this law, all the man has to do is claim he identifies as transgender. No proof of any kind is needed except what the man says. So any perv can claim to be transgender.
Tien1985 (831 posts) 30. Transgender people have a prettyextensive background, that often includes getting letters from therapists or doctors stating they are transgender. This is a good and necessary law. Any perv who is willing to break that law to harass others, would have anyway.
Nye Bevan (23,044 posts) 6. Why are you referring to this person as "he" if ze identifies as a woman,which presumably is the case, given zir choice of locker rooms? The reactions to this person's behavior seem somewhat cisnormative.
Behind the Aegis (38,692 posts) 7. Because HE identifies as a MAN.Read the article. HE never...let me repeat that for you...never...identified HIMSELF as a woman. Your reaction appears to be disingenuous and exemplifies why HE did what he did.
Nye Bevan (23,044 posts) 8. I just reread the story from start to finish,and I don't see anything about this person "identifying as a man", as you claim. Has the story been edited subsequent to you reading it, perhaps?
underahedgerow (718 posts) 19. And throughout Europe and pretty much the rest of the world. What's the US hangup with this toilet & changing room thing? I so totally don't get it. On a July 4th holiday I made the big mistake of joining a huge crowd waiting for fireworks on the beach somewhere in LA. One restroom, 20,000 people. Women's restroom, some kid pooped on the seat in one stall leaving one stall for hundreds of women and kids. Seriously, the line was at least 30 minutes. Men's room 3 feet away, no waiting. Stalls and urinals. I HAD to go, wasn't about to use a bush. Strolled right into the men's room, grabbed a stall, did my business without batting an eyelash. The men were shocked but no one said anything. Once I exited everyone got the message and it became a gender nuetral restroom that day. People are so uptight. I really, REALLY don't get it.
You beat me to it. Maybe my thread on this insanity can be deleted.
Or merged . . .
On a July 4th holiday I made the big mistake of joining a huge crowd waiting for fireworks on the beach somewhere in LA. DUmmie was too drugged up to know where.Women's restroom, some kid pooped on the seat in one stall leaving one stall for hundreds of women and kids. Seriously, the line was at least 30 minutes.
Response to underahedgerow (Reply #19)Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:12 AMIlsa (37,049 posts) 40. Some of us who've been sexually abused or raped want privacy from strangers who are the opposite gender to feel safe and feel like we still have some control over our bodies.
Ilsa (37,049 posts) 40. Some of us who've been sexually abused or raped want privacy from strangers who are the opposite gender to feel safe and feel like we still have some control over our bodies.
Easy solution to self-identified (fe)males insisting on using women's facilities. Free lop off procedure performed very next day. I'm sure we'd find plenty of folks willing to donate to the cause.
