Kick if you are ready for 100% increase in taxes.

[CC27]

kennetha (1,897 posts)

Kick if you are ready for 100% increase in taxes.


That's what Bernie is proposing.

In particular, BY HIS OWN ESTIMATES he needs to double Federal Revenue roughly just to pay for his healthcare plan alone.

I know. I know, this 100% increase in federal revenue is going to come from the wealthy and wall street and closing loop holes.

It's not going to effect you! You're going to get all the benefits and pay little of the freight. You bailed out Wall Street. Time for Wall street to bail out you!

But do you really think there is the political will to more than DOUBLE federal revenues (cause when you add up ALL of his programs you've got to more than double federal revenue.)

If you believe that.... well.... jeez.

Star Member Doctor_J (34,958 posts)
17. My taxes will go up by $100/year under Bernie's plan

For that I will pay about $15,000 less in healthcare costs. My grandchildren will not graduate college $100,000 in debt. We will not have 30 million americans without healthcare and another 20 million who can't afford the co-pays

And that's just the beginning.

What is your screen name at the Blaze?

cali (109,117 posts)
22. People really shouldn't be able to make blatantly false claims

That is most certainly not what he is proposing.

For shame.

And you obviously don't understand why people are supporting him. Pretty surprising. You post here, but it looks like you don't read posts here. Try reading this:


Let's clear something up. Bernie's supporters don't expect a magic wand

We know that his priorities are aspirational. We know that if he was elected, that would be the beginning, not the end. We don't expect miracles, we expect him to fight the corporate money and power that is swiftly turning this country in a very bad, very dangerous direction. We don't believe that scrambling to tinker around the edges or produce fig leaves to politely pretend you're doing something is the right approach, because at this time that really is just tantamount to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

I think a lot of Bernie's supporters feel as I do:

It's about integrity, and Bernie having consistently fought for the right things for a long time. It's about trusting his judgment, and I pretty much do. He's represented me for 25 years. So he's earned it. It's about ethics. In many ways, to me this primary is about character as much as anything else.

Sanders supporters know that when Bernie is talking about revolution, he's talking about shifting the culture and we know that doesn't happen overnight. We know that cultural shift precedes enacting single payer. We know we could fail.

We trust him to fight for people.

Who's mole? This thread is on fire. Bernie bullies are pissed.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511192429

[franksolich]

Oh my.

The Bernie bullies, the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive in the lead, like a bunch of SS or SD thugs, didn't waste any time ganging up on the original poster.  Talk about thugs, hooligans, and assholes.

And then there's this:

hifiguy (32,416 posts)   Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:23 PM

27. Why isn't this considered trolling?

arcane1 (35,518 posts)    Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:33 PM

52. Because it's in support of the candidate who employs the DU owner's wife

[Carl]

Star Member Doctor_J (34,958 posts)
17. My taxes will go up by $100/year under Bernie's plan

For that I will pay about $15,000 less in healthcare costs. My grandchildren will not graduate college $100,000 in debt. We will not have 30 million americans without healthcare and another 20 million who can't afford the co-pays

And that's just the beginning.

What is your screen name at the Blaze?

It is a special kind of retarded that can actually believe that could be possible.

[franksolich]

Bernie bullies are pissed.

Yeah.

And the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, who appears to be losing it slowly, day by day.

Not being a medical person, I dunno, but I wonder if she's got gangrene of the lady parts of her, making her into such a bitch.

[Chris_]

If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's free.

How many of these mouth breathers are the same ones that complained when they found out their new "affordable" health insurance policy came with a $6,000 deductible?

[fatboy]

Star Member Doctor_J (34,958 posts)
17. My taxes will go up by $100/year under Bernie's plan

For that I will pay about $15,000 less in healthcare costs. My grandchildren will not graduate college $100,000 in debt. We will not have 30 million americans without healthcare and another 20 million who can't afford the co-pays

And that's just the beginning.

What is your screen name at the Blaze?

A better question to ask this Dummy is What is your highest level of education? (a Doctor of the letter J?)

[CollectivismMustDie]

If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's free.

How many of these mouth breathers are the same ones that complained when they found out their new "affordable" health insurance policy came with a $6,000 deductible?

ROFL@free 

CMD

[Zathras]

It's going to be so much fun watching the DUmp when the Sanders Claus run for the Dem nomination turns into a flaming pile of wreckage thanks to HiLIARy.

[thundley4]

It's goi.g to be so much fun watching the DUmp when the Sanders Claus run for the Dem nomination turns into a flaming pile of wreckage thanks to HiLIARy.

Don't say that. Remember Paul Wellstone?


 

[Patriot Guard Rider]

It is a special kind of retarded that can actually believe that could be possible.

Other conservatives and I would argue with liberals back when jugearscare was coming in. We told them rates would skyrocket, gave them our reasons, and they poo-poo'd us. Said we just didn't like the black guy in the WH.

Well, premiums are skyrocketing, deductibles are so high the policies are worthless.

These people must absolutely believe in Unicorns who fart skittles. It's unimaginable how gullible they are.

[freedumb2003b]

Don't say that. Remember Paul Wellstone?


 :whistling:

Hey, they always need more chances to have political rallies.  Too bad for them the swimmer didn't wait until now for his liver to give up the ghost.

[98ZJUSMC]

Star Member Doctor_J (34,958 posts)
17. My taxes will go up by $100/year under Bernie's plan

For that I will pay about $15,000 less in healthcare costs. My grandchildren will not graduate college $100,000 in debt. We will not have 30 million americans without healthcare and another 20 million who can't afford the co-pays

And that's just the beginning.

What is your screen name at the Blaze?

[98ZJUSMC]

Other conservatives and I would argue with liberals back when jugearscare was coming in. We told them rates would skyrocket, gave them our reasons, and they poo-poo'd us. Said we just didn't like the black guy in the WH.

Well, premiums are skyrocketing, deductibles are so high the policies are worthless.

These people must absolutely believe in Unicorns who fart skittles. It's unimaginable how gullible they are.

But so easy, a murderer, traitor and habitual liar and a ridiculously unaccomplished Communist Septuagenarian can do it.

[franksolich]

Don't say that. Remember Paul Wellstone?

You know, if I were an insurance company, I wouldn't bother selling a life insurance policy to Methuselah; he's too big of a risk.

Number one, he's pretty ancient, and could keel over any time.

Or number two, he insists upon antagonizing a couple of people who have friends who get rid of people inimical to them.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

You know, if I were an insurance company, I wouldn't bother selling a life insurance policy to Methuselah; he's too big of a risk.

Number one, he's pretty ancient, and could keel over any time.

Or number two, he insists upon antagonizing a couple of people who have friends who get rid of people inimical to them.

Vince Foster unavailable for comment

[thundley4]

Vince Foster unavailable for comment

So is Ron Brown.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

So is Ron Brown.

Yea. Ron Brown. He of the unexplained hole in the top of his head. WHO on that plane was willing to kill themselves to kill him?

[Karin]

   I'm laughing at DoctorJ who really believes that crap he just wrote.  There's no way in hell to know such a thing. 

Most replies are just childishly ganging up on the OP, but here was a more reasonable one:

Response to kennetha (Original post)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:31 PM

Star Member packman (4,414 posts)
48. I, too, would like a clear, understandable

explanation of how Bernie would pay for all he purposes. Wall Street indeed needs many loopholes closed, off shore stuff cleaned up, and the broom of reform applied - but, how is this going to affect the middle class, the ordinary Joe Plumber (sorry for using his name)?

Seems like the 1% backed the rest of us into a street fight that we have to win With Bernie we have a candidate that may scare too many Americans into voting for him because of how it will affect their pocketbook. I can really understand how many, many families struggling to make ends meet WILL NOT vote for Bernie because of that. They will fear more taken from their meager income and will vote for the billionaire who promises not to.

Nobody ever replied to this. 

Here's something for you, Big Dog:



Someone even alerted on the entire OP, saying that she never cited her source.  Even though, she cited Sanders' own website as source, over and over again.  They really are assholes. 

Response to PatrickforO (Reply #136)

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 05:31 PM

kennetha (1,933 posts)
137. Obviously you're fine with it

as a Bernie supporter.

But you've got to be aware that what he's proposal will be a very tough sell and extraordinarily harder to actually implement than he's letting on. It's not because they are in the pocket of Wall Street that Democratic politicians are running away from him as fast as they can. The kind of proposals he is offering have a history of causing massive losses for the party. I know that's hard to believe because it seems so appealing, so easy, so magical.

[Zathras]

I guess the DUmbasses forgot what happened to the last Democrat that said he was going to raise taxes if elected President.  It didn't work too well for Walter Mondale and it won't work for Sanders Claus either.

[Big Dog]

Here's something for you, Big Dog:

 

[Rebel]

Study: Sanders's Tax Plan Would Reduce Americans' Incomes by a Sixth


 

[Karin]

^^ And the DUmp posted some "study" by an "economist" claiming that the moment Sanders is elected, everybody gets $22,000 more money!!! 

The one referenced in the post above is from a more sane source:

The nonpartisan Tax Foundation has scored Sanders's plan and has found it would cause the after-tax incomes of those in the middle of the income spectrum—those with incomes between the 40th and 60th percentiles—to drop by between 16.3 and 17 percent. In other words, Sanders's tax plan would reduce the typical American's income by a sixth.