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Crane collapse in NYC, a couple of questions.....

Was the crane company a union company? trying to find that out and hitting a dead end. Seems this is not all that infrequent. How about the others? Were they union contractors?


The moron is asking the question on the prayer that the crane collapse was due to "scab" labor, because as well know, union labor is highly disciplined and completely safe. Doesn't go too well for this idiot, however:

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2. They are union.

And they make $500,000 a year in pay and benefits.

Crane Operators Top $500,000 in Pay, Benefits

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303936704576399563008284024

Union, check. $500,000 a year? Wow, that's a lot of money! Time to castigate the 1%er who let the crane collapse, and holler that their huge salary be used to pay for damages, right?

Er, no. This is a union monkey we're talking about. So we get...

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3. Wow, good money..... (thanks)

Highly specialized work though. This link only speaks of the pay, I assume that you know the company involved is a union company?

     The implication is that this is all well and fine, so long as union labor did it. I mean, really, DUmmies: not ONE word about A HALF A ROCK SALARY?


      Gee, I wonder why housing is so expensive in blue cities filled to the brim with scumbag union monkey labor. Wonder if it has to do with $500K to pull a few levers?
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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2016, 01:50:07 AM »
A non-union CRANE contractor in NYC?   :lmao:

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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2016, 01:51:22 AM »
Wasn't it an NYC union goon high on drugs that crashed into a building a few years ago and caused a large explosion that collapsed the structure?  Wonder whatever happened to that guy.
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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2016, 04:28:12 AM »
Union rules are stupid and only designed to line the pockets of the unions themselves. 

I work in a union shop that belongs to the IBEW and yet the company has to call in electricians just to change the frelling fluorescent and halogen light bulbs in the place.

We can't even replace a bad receptacle when needed. Even though someone has to stop our work to help the electrician find the right breakers to de-energize the lights or receptacles.

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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2016, 07:36:26 AM »
A non-union CRANE contractor in NYC?   :lmao:

 :lol:

Would never happen

That was my first thought on reading the DU-member's post! H-5 earned and issued.

And the DU-member is too ignorant of NY to realize that it was highly unlikely that the crane contractor wasn't a union shop!

 :banghead: And the DU-member who posted this a-holery :banghead: is so eagerly hoping for a pro-union talking point :banghead: that (s)he doesn't give a @#$% about the guy who died :banghead: or the people who were injured. :banghead:
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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2016, 10:52:33 AM »
Union rules are stupid and only designed to line the pockets of the unions themselves. 

I work in a union shop that belongs to the IBEW and yet the company has to call in electricians just to change the frelling fluorescent and halogen light bulbs in the place.

We can't even replace a bad receptacle when needed. Even though someone has to stop our work to help the electrician find the right breakers to de-energize the lights or receptacles.

I am not an even close to electrically correct but let me relate a true story.  Years ago a couple guys wanted a fan to cool their work area.  Now this was a government office and rather than wait for the requisite work orders, job orders, and just things in general, they choose an alternative pathway to fan installation.  An aft shift installation was accomplished into the overhead lighting circuit producing an outlet for the fan. (It was accomplished by 'person or persons unknown' I believe the trouble report eventually stated.)  When the fan was plugged in it ran fine for a day or so then burned out.  Another fan was installed.  It too ran fine then burned out.  This went on for several more fans which were blamed as being junk.  Um, no.   

It was not until the outlet was used for an expensive printer  (which went tango umbrella too) that the outlet itself waschecked with a meter by an electrician. Turns out those commercial lights didn't run on regular 110 VAC.  Fortunately it only cost a few fans and a very expensive printer not a fire. 



 
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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2016, 11:49:06 AM »

It was not until the outlet was used for an expensive printer  (which went tango umbrella too) that the outlet itself waschecked with a meter by an electrician. Turns out those commercial lights didn't run on regular 110 VAC.  Fortunately it only cost a few fans and a very expensive printer not a fire.

Generally 110-120 outlets are rated at 15 or 20 amps.  230 volt plugs are very different from 110 plugs. 230 volt plugs and outlets also vary in shape and positioning of the prongs based on their amp draw.

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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2016, 01:11:53 PM »
Yep, not a whiff of concern in the thread as to injuries or death.  Just union. 

My stepson got a NYC union job, and thought he was going to make fabulous money....until he got a check and saw the deductions.  Gad, I hate that city.  He gets all butthurt that we won't go down and visit him, but my Lord, you enter the city and might as well empty out your life savings.  Can't smoke anywhere, either. 

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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2016, 02:27:28 PM »
Generally 110-120 outlets are rated at 15 or 20 amps.  230 volt plugs are very different from 110 plugs. 230 volt plugs and outlets also vary in shape and positioning of the prongs based on their amp draw.

Yeah well, the erstwhile off-shift magicians turned electricians apparently wasn't aware of those itsy bitsy details.  After the deed had been done the folk installing the printer had no idea the 'outlet' was bogus until the smoke show began.  In truth someone should have gotten days off to contemplate the 'error of their ways' but they got off scot-free.   I won't speculate how they managed to tap into the lines in the overhead but they ran the wire down an existing 'power pole'  used for net drops which is how the printer got involved.   
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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2016, 02:46:24 PM »
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     The implication is that this is all well and fine, so long as union labor did it. I mean, really, DUmmies: not ONE word about A HALF A ROCK SALARY?

Half a rock is cool with the DUmmies, as long as it's a union member earning it. Now, the small business owner, who is Republican, employs 50 people and puts in 100 plus hours a week, he's the evil guy and must be taxed into oblivion.
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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2016, 03:42:34 PM »
Half a rock is cool with the DUmmies, as long as it's a union member earning it. Now, the small business owner, who is Republican, employs 50 people and puts in 100 plus hours a week, he's the evil guy and must be taxed into oblivion.

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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2016, 08:36:04 PM »
Holy shit.

Next time there is a mass shooting, I'm going to burn a mole pointing it out, if the shooter is a union member!

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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2016, 08:49:05 PM »
The democrat dipcraps refuse to admit that their dindus, multicultural and basic gibsmedat voters are to blame. 

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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2016, 09:24:25 PM »
Generally 110-120 outlets are rated at 15 or 20 amps.  230 volt plugs are very different from 110 plugs. 230 volt plugs and outlets also vary in shape and positioning of the prongs based on their amp draw.

Yea a lot of overhead florescent lights have 270 volts feeding into the ballasts.

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Re: DUmmies: cranes can fall and kill, as long as 1%er union monkeys do it
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2016, 09:30:13 PM »
75 milliamps can kill you.  Never trust a bad moon on the rise ...

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