primitive gets wire-tapped by Verizon; also gets mausoleumed by Skins

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=226x6538

Oh my.

As mentioned down deeper into the bonfire, the link (it's a list of residents of Maine) posted by the punk primitive doesn't work; but then another primitive even further down deeper into the bonfire posts the link correctly, and that one works.

punkpatriot411  (18 posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:13 AM
Original message

I found out that I was illegally wiretapped... The FISA bill affects me directly
   
http://www.scribd.com/doc/220733/Verizon-Wiretapping-PU... >Here's the list of people who were illegally wiretapped.

I'm #1 on page six.

Apparently, they were recording my calls! Or at least one of them. I don't understand why, or how. I have AT&T and haven't ever called outside of the country that I can think of (it's really expensive).

Other friends of mine are also on the list.

I knew that Obama's vote was wrong before I knew I was illegally wiretapped.

But this morning, I called the ACLU to see what my legal rights were now, and because of Obama's vote (and others) for telecom immunity, I now have no legal recourse. I can't do anything about it. Nothing. They broke the law, my privacy was violated, and they're getting away with it.

Now that this affects me personally, and knowing that my right to recourse has been taken from me by Obama, I find it unconscionable to support Obama.

It strikes me as bizzare that friends of mine are saying to me, "Asher, I support your fight here, but I support Obama still. I totally agree with you though, his FISA vote was wrong."

From my perspective, I feel totally violated, and these shows of support for me mingled with shows of support for Obama totally baffle me.

How can people support him? It's like I was robbed, and people are saying, "yeah, it sucks that you were robbed, but you know, that guy who robbed you is cool, so I'm going to hang at his place for a party tonight."

People who are saying they support Obama but also support my fight against the FISA decision are liars. They've turned their backs on me, and everybody else who has had their privacy violated.

I have no faith in the Left-wing/progressive movement anymore. They're all so caught up in the Obama love-fest that they just don't realize what a terrible politician he really is.

The Left Wing is just as guilty of the same starry-eyed fervor that swept Bush into office. They will lie to themselves to fend off the truths that show how he is not what they think he is.

They believe whole heartedly in their candidate, they won't let facts get in the way.

There is no doubt in my mind that Obama is going to win this next election. We are going to see four more years of a Democratic George W Bush.

The Democratic Party is not an opposition party.

The Voters won't notice that they're being fed the same bull pie from both parties.

And for their lack of observation, they will get what they deserve.

Warpy  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:15 AM
Response to Original message

1. Bad link

Triana  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:19 AM
Response to Original message

2. Hmm 11 posts and your link doesn't work. Forgive me if I'm a bit suspicious.

DJ13  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #2

4. He really just screwed up the link, the list is real... link here
   
http://www.scribd.com/doc/220733/Verizon-Wiretapping-PU...
Verizon Wiretapping - PUC All Names

pepperbear  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:24 AM
Response to Original message

3. yep. link doesn't work for me either......but golly, you're sure going on and on about Obama...
   
Wow, punk patriot, you're right! Maybe he isn't the right guy for the job after all.

now who would benefit from my thinking that?

nice try, skippy.

emilyg  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #3

6. DJ13 posted good link

DCKit  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:29 AM
Response to Original message

5. I searched the site and can't find anything pertinent.   

But I'm still shocked. A little pissed off too. Finding out if I am on that list would be almost as good as finding a genuine copy of the TSA's "no-fly" list.

ancient_nomad  Donating Member  (334 posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:35 AM
Response to Original message

7. Bad Link!

The old itinerant primitive didn't read the rest of the bonfire.

katandmoon  (277 posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:40 AM
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8. Obama's FISA vote made me lose all respect for him
   
Not that I had a whole lot to begin with, admittedly. But the FISA vote was Obama's make or break moment for me...and he broke. Then to add insult to injury, there was his pandering to the fundie crowd on late term abortion. I now have absolutely no faith that if (I'm not as sure as you that he will) Obama gets elected, he won't be George Bush's twin.

spag68  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:45 AM
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9. This is amazing
   
You claim to be wiretapped, it is done by a rethuglican administration. Their nominee has proclaimed that he is going to do exactly the same stuff if he is elected,so your response is to not vote for his Obama. Amazing that you figured all this out by yourself. Next please work on the big bang theory, we really need your exceptional analytic skills,maybe on the side you can figure out how to make a 4 second dragster run on air.

pinto  DU Moderator Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-27-08 12:54 AM
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10. Locking.
   
Poster is no longer with us.

[USA4ME]

Must. Not. Criticize. The. lord. god. Obamassiah.

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[tuolumnejim]

Was this a TIT play on words?

spag68  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jul-27-08 12:45 AM
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9. This is amazing
 You claim to be wiretapped, it is done by a rethuglican administration. Their nominee has proclaimed that he is going to do exactly the same stuff if he is elected,so your response is to not vote for his Obama. Amazing that you figured all this out by yourself. Next please work on the big bang theory, we really need your exceptional analytic skills,maybe on the side you can figure out how to make a 4 second dragster run on air.

[delilahmused]

Let me see if I understand...it's okay to engage in vicious, hateful (bordering on insane) diatribes against Christians, wishing ill-will on your fellow citizens just because they belong to a different political party, dancing on the graves of people who died if they don't share your values, wishing the president to be impeached and executed (not necessarily in that order) are perfectly acceptable topics at DU and enjoy daily exposure to the light of day...BUT disagreeing (and hoping to engage in mere discussion with ones comrades) with a vote Obama made while serving the the US senate, especially when said person believes the vote to have directly affected him, gets one tombstoned?

Cindie

[dutch508]

Let me see if I understand...it's okay to engage in vicious, hateful (bordering on insane) diatribes against Christians, wishing ill-will on your fellow citizens just because they belong to a different political party, dancing on the graves of people who died if they don't share your values, wishing the president to be impeached and executed (not necessarily in that order) are perfectly acceptable topics at DU and enjoy daily exposure to the light of day...BUT disagreeing (and hoping to engage in mere discussion with ones comrades) with a vote Obama made while serving the the US senate, especially when said person believes the vote to have directly affected him, gets one tombstoned?

Cindie

that about sums it up nicely.