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Flint’s Water Crisis Is No Accident. It’s the Result of Years of Devastating Free-Market Reforms.
   
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The spectacle of a community knowingly poisoned has rightly captured the attention of the national media. But Flint’s water emergency also speaks to a much larger crisis. Flint has spent the last two generations battling hostile suburbs for a rational distribution of regional taxes, as Daniel Hertz recently explained in these pages. The competition between municipalities has pitted Flint against its suburbs, producing a race to the bottom in taxation as local officials strive to produce a “better business environment” at the expense of schools, health and public safety.

The city has been blindsided by GM’s strategy of profit maximization, as the company shifted tens of thousands of jobs to the South, West, and beyond, in order to avoid unionized workers. Of the 80,000 GM jobs once located in Flint, some 8,000 remain, while unemployment is double the national average and poverty hovers at 40 percent of the population.

At the same time, the city has seen state interest wane as its demographics have shifted as a result of white flight and regional impoverishment. And while state officials have now recognized the city’s water problem, little has been said about its shuttered schools, lack of safety or grim poverty statistics.

The few public funds that do exist for Flint demonstrate the narrow vision of contemporary urban and social policy. The state government has earmarked federal “Hardest Hit” funds, meant to keep underwater homeowners in their houses, for demolishing vacant structures instead. Likewise, local officials and elites advocate for “shrinking city” strategies in Flint and Detroit.

These policies offer no solutions to struggling residents, instead assuming that poor and high vacancy neighborhoods will eventually revert to urban green space following a period of government inaction. What happens to the poor and working-class people who used to live in those new green spaces? No one seems to care.

To recap:

Proglodyte unions priced themselves out of the labor market.

Proglodyte government taxed business and citizens out of the community.

So the company shipped jobs elsewhere while citizens fled to less burdensome climes.

Tax receipts crater.

Services become neglected, including the water.

Instead of restructuring and prioritizing services...

...blame GM for trying to remain competitive

...but we should bail-out GM

...and prosecute the first Republican to walk into the mess left by the Proglodytes.


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1. Absolutely

But the state needs to restructure the state tax allowing under funded cities to get money from other cities. It is not the fault of flint and detroit that they don't get enough property taxes to run the city. More needs to be give from wealthier areas.

They're not under-funded, they're over-spending, you thief.

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4. They let New Orleans drown.

When people tried to walk out, they were shot.

The conservative spirit in action is inaction with violence toward the oppressed when necessary for control.

^ People who spew this idiocy should not be argued with; they should be encouraged to drown in their own bile.

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5. The Constitution guarantees a republican form of government in all the states

and what Flint got was an appointed dictator. Flint should sue to have the "emergency manager" (dictator) law declared unconstitutional.

Just one, small technical detail if I may:

Flint is not a state.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027557916
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All this time, and I thought Flint was one of the  58.   :whistling:   :-)
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There should be a new definition of the word delusion to explain how these shit for brains mutts can look at the results of decades of their own policies at work and still somehow blame the opposite for what happened.

Capital is mobile DUmbasses,that is unless imprisoned by point of sword (see Berlin wall).
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It is basic economics,basic human nature and eternal reality.

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Its never their fault. Detroit is a paradise. Michael Moore is a fitness instructor. The West Wing was a documentary. 

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They know exactly who is to blame.

You're asking them to admit it?

You might as well be asking them to pay for their own food, housing, education, medicine, children, vacation and retirement.

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To recap:

Proglodyte unions priced themselves out of the labor market.

Proglodyte government taxed business and citizens out of the community.

Proglodyte city government crashes and burns the City of Flint, forcing the State of Michigan to take over management of Flint.

Proglodyte government imposed long delays on the water pipeline that was being relied on to bring water other than from the Flint River to the City of Flint.


So the company shipped jobs elsewhere while citizens fled to less burdensome climes.

Tax receipts crater.

Services become neglected, including the water.

Obama's EPA and Michigan's EnviroAgency failed to warn Flint's manager against using Flint River water.

Obama's EPA and Michigan's EnviroAgency dallied and delayed warning Flint's city government and Michigan's governor's office that Flint's water had become unsafe.


Instead of restructuring and prioritizing services...

...blame GM for trying to remain competitive

...but we should bail-out GM

...ignore the party affiliation of the Democrat manager appointed by Michigan's Governor

...and prosecute the first Republican to try to fix the messes created and left by the Proglodytes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027557916

Just adding some important details to your list of the facts Libs & Progs are studiously ignoring. ...
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Just adding some important details to your list of the facts Libs & Progs are studiously ignoring. ...

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The spectacle of a community knowingly poisoned has rightly captured the attention of the national media. But Flint’s water emergency also speaks to a much larger crisis. Flint has spent the last two generations battling hostile suburbs for a rational distribution of regional taxes,

This stood out to me, the translation is Flint has been trying to TAX the suburbs, and was defeated (the suburbs are only hostile because they fought back).
Flint would not be trying this if they had not driven business out of Flint.
But democrats never look back or accept blame.

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This stood out to me, the translation is Flint has been trying to TAX the suburbs, and was defeated (the suburbs are only hostile because they fought back).
Flint would not be trying this if they had not driven business out of Flint.
But democrats never look back or accept blame.

Exactly right. DemocRATS create problems, year after year, decade after decade, then when the sh*t hits the fan, they blame the first republican they can.

In the case of taxes, DemocRATS screwed up and fully expected "reparations" from the suburbs. When they didn't get it, it's "blame the suburbs", not "blame the dems that got us here".
Liberals disgust me. (Now I don't have to remember to put it on each post).

Because only the left goes searching for that which is not there in a desperate attempt to be offended about something.

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