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Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« on: January 20, 2016, 04:18:03 AM »
Last night, Sarah Palin, Donald Trump’s “very special guest,” endorsed him at Iowa State University. Of course, a lot of people are shocked that she would endorse him over Ted Cruz. She’s the Tea Party darling after all, standing for conservative values from supporting gun rights to defunding Obamacare.

Cruz communications director Rick Tyler said earlier Tuesday that the campaign would be very disappointed if Palin supported Trump because she:

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...has been a champion of the conservative cause and if she was going to endorse Donald Trump, sadly she would be endorsing someone who's held progressive views all their life on the sanctity of life, on marriage, on partial-birth abortion, he supported [the] TARP bailout — it goes on and on and on.

Palin responded with a tweet linking to an article written by her daughter in which Bristol Palin blasts the Cruz campaign for “slamming” her mom.

Cruz responded with a tweet of his own—this one much more conciliatory:

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But should Cruz and others be surprised that Palin would jump on the Trump train? Not if you’ve paid attention to what she’s been saying ever since Trump got into the race.

In August, the former Alaskan governor interviewed Trump on One America News Network, showing her enthusiasm and support for the firebrand candidate:

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I’ve said since the day he made the sacrifice to hit the campaign trail, voters crave the anti-status-quo politicians,” she said. “They want results. They need a fighter. They need someone to fire all those political correct police.

In another interview in August, this one on Fox News, Palin shows her support of Trump, saying his “common sense plans” are a “real shot in the arm to Constitutionalists and conservatives who want America to be put first by our leaders.”

Lastly, and more significantly in light of her endorsement of Trump last night, is an interview on CBN last month where she says of Trump (about 2:00 in): “I meet with him quite a bit. I’m so thankful that he’s running ... He calls it like he sees it, and to me that’s refreshing. He’s a fighter, he’s a competitor. We need a fighter for America, someone who will put our nation first.”

Palin’s enthusiasm for Trump mirrors many of his supporters from the Tea Party ranks. That zeal would be understandable if Trump were the only anti-establishment candidate in the race. But he’s not. There’s Cruz. He’s the true constitutional conservative, and it would make sense that Palin, who has always stood for conservative values, would support him.

That’s not the case. Palin’s endorsement for Trump over Cruz reveals her populist-over-principles roots. Trump represents authoritarian, nationalistic, Jacksonian populism that is not rooted in constitutional principles. It’s about the fight, taking power away from the establishment and defeating the real enemy—the politically correct Left that is hell-bent on fundamentally changing America—at all costs. Palin is choosing power over principles.

Why? It might be a simple as she has a personal relationship with Trump. She said in her December interview that she meets with him “quite a bit.” There isn’t any indication that she meets with Cruz very often if at all. If anything, Palin is loyal to with whom she builds personal connections.

Her support of Trump might also be good old-fashioned horse trading. The king of “making the deal” might have offered something to the former Alaskan governor to garner her support—a vice presidential spot (don’t rule it out!) or a cabinet position? We don’t know, but it’s not implausible in the self-interested world of politics.

Ultimately, will Palin’s endorsement mean anything? Obviously, Cruz has gotten under Trump’s skin by edging closer in the polls. As Trump’s liberal record comes out and becomes public knowledge, conservative supporters are taking a second look at him. It makes sense that Trump would fight back with a ringing endorsement from a conservative. But will Palin’s populist-motivated endorsement work when strong conservative voices like Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh are doing more to expose Trump’s record than to throw their conservative creds behind him? It’s unlikely. Conservatives questioning their support of Trump in light of his record will be more likely to listen to conservative radio than Palin, especially since they have a choice with Cruz.

She will also do little to help Trump if Cruz’s push to prove that Trump really isn’t an anti-establishment populist is effective. A case can be made that populists don’t care if Trump is a conservative. Palin is proof of that. But what if he’s not even a populist? His recent language about making deals with the other side and everyone getting along in D.C. certainly reeks of establishment squishiness and not the unflinching determination to fight for America many populists are craving.

When supporters of Trump begin to realize that, not only is he not a conservative, but he’s not even a populist, they will jump ship. Conservatives will flock to Cruz. The populists will scatter, licking their wounds, either holding on to the Trump ideal to the bitter end or finally realizing Cruz is the fighter they wanted all along. Either way, their insurgency will be broken, and the conservative resurgency will truly begin.


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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2016, 06:02:27 AM »


She will also do little to help Trump if Cruz’s push to prove that Trump really isn’t an anti-establishment populist is effective. A case can be made that populists don’t care if Trump is a conservative. Palin is proof of that. But what if he’s not even a populist? His recent language about making deals with the other side and everyone getting along in D.C. certainly reeks of establishment squishiness and not the unflinching determination to fight for America many populists are craving.

When supporters of Trump begin to realize that, not only is he not a conservative, but he’s not even a populist, they will jump ship. Conservatives will flock to Cruz. The populists will scatter, licking their wounds, either holding on to the Trump ideal to the bitter end or finally realizing Cruz is the fighter they wanted all along. Either way, their insurgency will be broken, and the conservative resurgency will truly begin.


https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/why-did-sarah-palin-endorse-donald-trump

You are dreaming! Palin understands that only an outsider can change the mess in DC. Most of Trump's supporters feel that way.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2016, 06:14:03 AM »
It would be different if this was the general election and not the primaries.

As it is she runs the risk of alienating Conservatives who supported her more than she does swaying any of them to support Trump who weren't already.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2016, 07:06:49 AM »
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"We need a fighter for America, someone who will put our nation first.”

How is this materially different from Deutschland, Deutschland über alles?

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Palin’s endorsement for Trump over Cruz reveals her populist-over-principles roots. Trump represents authoritarian, nationalistic, Jacksonian populism that is not rooted in constitutional principles.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2016, 09:00:31 AM »
It would be different if this was the general election and not the primaries.

As it is she runs the risk of alienating Conservatives who supported her more than she does swaying any of them to support Trump who weren't already.

The Iowa's Governor statement of anybody but Cruz carries more weight than an endorsement by Palin. Opposing the subsidies, which I support, will not play well in this corn state.

You can nit pick this and I can nit pick that.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2016, 09:42:52 AM »
The Iowa's Governor statement of anybody but Cruz carries more weight than an endorsement by Palin. Opposing the subsidies, which I support, will not play well in this corn state.

Gov Braindead is in the pocket of the ethanol lobby.  His son is a lobbyist for them as well.  Trump stood right there with Braindead and his son and said he wants more EPA mandated fuel blending than even Obama wants.  So much for anti establishment and anti big government.

You support the subsidies?  Congrats you support a big government boondoggle that we the taxpayers have to suffer for.  Nice to see you're all for crony capitalism.  Ethanol blended fuels suck for gas mileage, gum up engines and drive up the price of corn.

So what you say?  Well higher prices for corn means that it  costs cattle ranchers more to feed their herds.  To save money the cattle ranchers simply reduce the isize of the herds they send to market.

Smaller numbers of cattle that go to market means the price of beef goes up.  And with the shit hole economy we've got right now it makes it that much harder for people to buy groceries because of the increased costs.

If ethanol is so great...then let it survive on the free market on it's own instead of receiving government subsidies.

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You can nit pick this and I can nit pick that.

No you'll just blindly defend anything Trump says regardless of the facts.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2016, 09:45:18 AM »
Did you notice that Trump's big announcement just conveniently buried the news about the new Hillary server problems?

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2016, 09:53:15 AM »
Gov Braindead is in the pocket of the ethanol lobby.  His son is a lobbyist for them as well.  Trump stood right there with Braindead and his son and said he wants more EPA mandated fuel blending than even Obama wants.  So much for anti establishment and anti big government.

You support the subsidies?  Congrats you support a big government boondoggle that we the taxpayers have to suffer for.  Nice to see you're all for crony capitalism.  Ethanol blended fuels suck for gas mileage, gum up engines and drive up the price of corn.

So what you say?  Well higher prices for corn means that it  costs cattle ranchers more to feed their herds.  To save money the cattle ranchers simply reduce the isize of the herds they send to market.

Smaller numbers of cattle that go to market means the price of beef goes up.  And with the shit hole economy we've got right now it makes it that much harder for people to buy groceries because of the increased costs.

If ethanol is so great...then let it survive on the free market on it's own instead of receiving government subsidies.

No you'll just blindly defend anything Trump says regardless of the facts.

Not true. You are so dumb, YOU DID NOT READ WHAT I SAID ABOUT OPPOSING SUBSIDIES. Ethanol is a big scam. Making corn into energy is insane. Sounds like you do hate Trump.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2016, 09:57:51 AM »
Not true. You are so dumb, YOU DID NOT READ WHAT I SAID ABOUT OPPOSING SUBSIDIES. Ethanol is a big scam. Making corn into energy is insane.

Then why do you support a candidate who is behind using the EPA to increase ethanol subsidies and the amount of ethanol in our gasoline.



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Sounds like you do hate Trump.

Again.  That is a lie.

Why do you follow him so blindly?
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2016, 11:39:25 AM »
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  His recent language about making deals with the other side and everyone getting along in D.C. certainly reeks of establishment squishiness and not the unflinching determination to fight for America many populists are craving.
   

After Trump said THAT, I began wondering just where does he stand. 

I like Jeb's weather vane ad about Rubio but, I think it also pertains to Trump.


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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2016, 02:48:50 PM »
Well, Here I am again.  I know I am not around much anymore, but I am still a member and will now weigh in.
I left the Republican Party many many years ago, and have been an Independent since.  Still have never voted for a Democrat.   But, with that said, here's the way I see it.

The Republican Establishment hes ZERO clue what Americans want, and/or need.  We are sick to death of their tentative ways.  We try to support conservatism, and here comes the Republicans, being anything but conservative. 
We the People watched in horror, as Obozo, a mediocre candidate at best, schooled McLame.  He refused to fight.  He refused to challenge the status quo.  He lost.  We watched the Republican't Party as they threw Palin under the bus.  Then, we watched as a Republican SCOTUS appointee legislated Obozocare fine, as a tax, from the Bench.  then, we watched as Romney refused to confront Obozo.  He lost.  We were told we needed to empower the Pubbies to repeal Obozocare, so we gave them the purse strings.  Then, they said Dingy Harry was blocking their efforts, and they needed the Senate.  We gave them the Senate.  Still, zero action from  the Pubbies.
Boehner was confirmed Speaker, again, and off we go back into appeasement land.  We screamed until he left, and we got Ryan.  Now, he's the same old tired politician, Boehner was.
So, now they want us to give them the White House.  In the meantime, Trey Gowdy, supposed pitbull of the party, gets zero done on Benghazi.  Comes out in support of Rubio.  Getting the pattern, here?  So, we buck.  Not just us white over 60 angry Christians, but Dems, Libertarians, black, white, Latino, Christians and Atheists, screaming for a fighter, and someone we can see will hold Washington accountable.
Now, those who support Cruz, Rubio, Christie or Bush are still blinded by ideology.  That, or they are just in Denial.  What they fail to realize, as do some here, this election is not about policy.  It isn't about conservatism.  It isn't about party, or the economy. 

It is all about someone who'll give the finger, to Washington politicians.   It is about sticking our thumbs, in the RNC's eyes.  It is time to clean house.  Republican't politicians are just as complicit in America's Demise as Dems are. 
We are tired of the philosophy of the RNC. 
They try to coddle the Black Community, hoping to garner votes for healthcare and entitlements, of those who will never vote for them in any numbers.
They try to appease the immigrant community, with amnesty,  hoping to gain votes from people who will never vote for them in any numbers.
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So, I suggest everyone take a look.  This isn't your Grandfather's Party, any more.  Dem-Lites, is the best way to describe the party. 

So, when you say Trump isn't a Conservative, we say, "So What?"  Neither is the Republican't Party.  But he is a Pitbull.  He will fight.  And if not, are we really any worse off?   The Republicans will put on a convincing show, and then meet their Democrat counterparts for dinner and drinks.  RINOs.


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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2016, 03:47:21 PM »

So, when you say Trump isn't a Conservative, we say, "So What?"  Neither is the Republican't Party.  But he is a Pitbull.  He will fight.  And if not, are we really any worse off?   The Republicans will put on a convincing show, and then meet their Democrat counterparts for dinner and drinks.  RINOs.

Very well said. If Cruz gets the nomination and wins the Presidency, I hope he is not all talk and no show. Have been disappointed many times by these so called panty waisted conservatives.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2016, 03:51:11 PM »
Very well said. If Cruz gets the nomination and wins the Presidency, I hope he is not all talk and no show. Have been disappointed many times by these so called panty waisted conservatives.
I totally agree.  Cruz is my second choice, but the fact that he accepts money from certain people, leads me to believe that once in office, he'll do like Paul Ryan and go along to get along.  Even Trey Gowdy endorsed an establishment hack.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2016, 04:41:02 PM »
I totally agree.  Cruz is my second choice, but the fact that he accepts money from certain people, leads me to believe that once in office, he'll do like Paul Ryan and go along to get along.  Even Trey Gowdy endorsed an establishment hack.
Who are these "certain people"?
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
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Who are these "certain people"?

Wall Street/Goldman Sachs (most likely, though tiny can certainly speak for himself).
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2016, 05:18:52 PM »
Wall Street/Goldman Sachs (most likely, though tiny can certainly speak for himself).

Banks, big Pharma and lest not forget lobbyist along with a swarm of blood seeking lawyers. Good luck with trying to pass legislation to reduce the power of these sue crazies.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2016, 08:47:08 PM »
I am wary of politicians period, regardless of political parties.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2016, 09:33:31 PM »
Sarah said she thought the current Representatives and Senators running should stick to doing the job they were elected to do.
Not sure why so many of them always seem to think a few years up in DC qualifies them to try ladder climbing.  Particularly when they bring only more government resume fillers as their recommendation.  Something I doubt the Founders intended.  We have moved a far way from the  Washington, Adams, and Jefferson examples of service as a temporary hiatus from private life.  Government service was viewed as the duty and privilege of otherwise independently successful private citizens who desired the welfare of the nation and their fellow citizens.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2016, 10:46:11 PM »
Then why do you support a candidate who is behind using the EPA to increase ethanol subsidies and the amount of ethanol in our gasoline.



Again.  That is a lie.

Why do you follow him so blindly?

Because I no longer trust politicians to do what they say especially Harvard lawyers.  Plus, following any politician is a figment of your imagination.

Trump qualities include being a fighter, a leader and a winner.

 

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2016, 11:56:55 PM »
There is some merit to us fighting over closely held opinions.
Something good can come of it.
I just hope it does lead to unity in the final analysis before the voting for our next president starts.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2016, 04:16:58 AM »
Banks, big Pharma and lest not forget lobbyist along with a swarm of blood seeking lawyers. Good luck with trying to pass legislation to reduce the power of these sue crazies.

And you have zero proof of any of that.  It's all tinfoil bullshit.

You're really ****ing delusional if you think Trump is going to reduce the size of government.
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2016, 04:31:28 AM »
Because I no longer trust politicians to do what they say especially Harvard lawyers.  Plus, following any politician is a figment of your imagination.

But blind hero worship of a modern day Robber Baron is perfectly fine right?

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Trump qualities include being a fighter, a leader and a winner.

How does that qualify him for President exactly?

Oh and you posed the question yesterday in relation to Trump...something about not ever having a successful businessman become PResident or something like that.

We've had one before.

Herbert Hoover.  Successful businessman self made never held elected office until he became President.

He jacked up tariffs like Trump wants to do...started a trade war with other countries to the point where France refused to import anything made in the USA.

He's the reason FDR came to power.

Those that don't learn from history....
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2016, 05:12:16 AM »
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So, when you say Trump isn't a Conservative, we say, "So What?"  Neither is the Republican't Party.  But he is a Pitbull.  He will fight.  And if not, are we really any worse off?   The Republicans will put on a convincing show, and then meet their Democrat counterparts for dinner and drinks.  RINOs.

And Donald Trump will be tending bar.

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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2016, 07:28:52 AM »
Palin decided to align herself with one of the biggest RINO's in Washington; John McCain.  Now she is aligning herself with yet another liberal; Trump.  He has promised her a place in his cabinet should he get the nomination.  The way I see it, her conservative principles can be bought.

I am glad that she didn't endorse Cruz; her popularity has diminished significantly and I think she is more of a hindrance than an asset.  I found it interesting during her endorsement speech to Trump that he stood there waiting for Palin to deliver and get the crowd excited.  The crowd was less than receptive and he noticed it too.  ...and then there is her shrieking ...
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Re: Why Did Sarah Palin Endorse Donald Trump?
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2016, 03:20:37 PM »
Palin decided to align herself with one of the biggest RINO's in Washington; John McCain.  Now she is aligning herself with yet another liberal; Trump.  He has promised her a place in his cabinet should he get the nomination.  The way I see it, her conservative principles can be bought.

I am glad that she didn't endorse Cruz; her popularity has diminished significantly and I think she is more of a hindrance than an asset.  I found it interesting during her endorsement speech to Trump that he stood there waiting for Palin to deliver and get the crowd excited.  The crowd was less than receptive and he noticed it too.  ...and then there is her shrieking ...

Trump stated that there are several Rep. candidates that he would consider including Cruz in his administration if he got the nomination. So, let not be spreading B.S.

If you think that Cruz would not have been thrilled with her endorsement, you would be crazier than Dr. Nutz. or on drugs.

I do agree her shrieking is irritating.