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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2016, 03:28:38 AM »
Lawyer Challenging Ted Cruz Eligibility Was Suspended From Practice of Law

We got a winner here.

Levin was reading off the list of Dems that tried to stop Obama on this same issue.

All the cases were tossed and one lawyer was sancitoned for bringing a frivilous case.
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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2016, 09:27:15 PM »
Well, I could drag in reams of the opposite opinion off the web and the tv, but then so can you.
It might be best, seriously, for Cruz and Rubio to do as McCain did, and get a Congressional letter of citizenship, or whatever it was exactly he did wherein they voted on and confirmed his eligibility to run.  If indeed it's a matter for Congress, that's a lot easier and quicker to do than attempt to get the Supreme Court to rule on it.

Two things here.  Congress hates Cruz and loves Rubio...I don't see Congress ruling in Cruz's favor.  Cruz has also been very vocal on his difference of opinion with some of the justices on the Supreme Court.  Though the Supreme Court isn't supposed to play politics ... they have recently ruled in favor of Obamacare and gay marriage ... I'm not so sure they would rule in Cruz's favor either.
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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2016, 11:59:48 AM »
Two things here.  Congress hates Cruz and loves Rubio...I don't see Congress ruling in Cruz's favor.  Cruz has also been very vocal on his difference of opinion with some of the justices on the Supreme Court.  Though the Supreme Court isn't supposed to play politics ... they have recently ruled in favor of Obamacare and gay marriage ... I'm not so sure they would rule in Cruz's favor either.

I'm gonna be nitpicky here, for just a moment.

Congress doesn't rule. They legislate. Or they're supposed to, anyway. They vote on pieces of legislation, but i wouldn't equate that with the term rule.

The Supreme Court has played politics for a couple hundred years or more, beginning with John Marshall. The surprising thing of late wasn't them playing politics, the surprising thing was seeing a Chief Justice actually rewrite the law as passed by Congress (the Dems, that is) to accommodate his vision of what the law should be.

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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2016, 12:01:52 PM »
I am a huge Cruz supporter.  However it is my understanding that the Supreme Court has never actually ruled as to the definition of a natural born citizen.

Keep in mind that what is being disputed is whether or not Cruz is a natural born citizen, NOT his citizenship.  There is absolutely no doubt that Cruz is an American citizen.  The Constitution however clearly states that one must be a 'natural born citizen' which is the issue that is being disputed.

Summarizing:

    To be "natural born" is to be born on a spot of soil somewhere, and that also makes one a citizen, of jus soli countries like the United States, if that soil is part of the dominion of that country, which in U.S. law is referred to as "incorporated" territory, as distinct from a protectorate, leasehold, or other merely "administered" territory.


"Citizen at birth" is not "natural born citizenship". Those are entirely different concepts...
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No Supreme Court opinion has "defined" natural born citizenship for purposes of presidential eligibility. The cases cited were either dictum or concerned ordinary citizenship sufficient to vote or hold office, but not to serve as president.

http://www.constitution.org/abus/pres_elig.htm

I know the quoted words are suspect but it occurred to me that using that logic, terrorist "Syed Rizwan Farook" could be president ?   :thatsright:

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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2016, 06:46:43 PM »
Newsflash,
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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2016, 08:37:54 PM »
Newsflash,
Lib Lawyers are unethical.

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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2016, 08:45:43 PM »
Levin was reading off the list of Dems that tried to stop Obama on this same issue.

All the cases were tossed and one lawyer was sancitoned for bringing a frivilous case.

I know it was the Hillary Clinton supporters who started the Barack Obama birther movement. Conservatives were late to it.

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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2016, 11:16:15 PM »
I know it was the Hillary Clinton supporters who started the Barack Obama birther movement. Conservatives were late to it.

Bombshell: ‘Washington Post’ Confirms Hillary Clinton Started the Birther Movement
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/26/washington-post-confirms-hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/

Newsflash...
Lib journalist at LA Times first to call Barak H. Obama "Magic Negro".
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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2016, 12:00:21 PM »
Newsflash...
Lib journalist at LA Times first to call Barak H. Obama "Magic Negro".

Somehow that was ignored by the media.  :stoner:
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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2016, 12:19:21 PM »
Somehow that was ignored by the media.  :stoner:

Much like they ignored the fact that the Hillary camp raised the birther issue about Obama.

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Re: Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2016, 09:50:10 AM »
Devil's advocate: I don't see how a registered voter can be denied a chance for a lawsuit based upon injury. A voter may be affected because the candidate he prefers may be in a "compromised" election based upon vote allocation, thereby affecting his actual vote, which constitutes damage. Frankly, any lawyer that doesn't argue that very real problem and introduce close federal election results (including Florida 2000 presidential) is not being very thorough, and judge that rules against the continuance of the voter's lawsuit for that reason is being selective toward his judgment.

THAT SAID: Cruz has standing based upon having a parent whom is a citizen of America. Ironically, two foreigners can hop the border, drop their kid, and immediately go back to Mexico, and that kid is legal to be president based upon current law, even if that kid spent his entire life in TJ running drugs and guns for El Chapo, while the baby of an American servicemember with a German spouse born in a German (not on-US base) hospital is not eligible, based upon the irrational argument by the lib birthers. There are only two ways to be a citizen: natural born, or naturalized. Cruz was never naturalized because he has always been natural born.
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