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Anyone hear Bush say...cnn debate
« on: December 15, 2015, 09:35:56 PM »
Did you all hear Jeb Bush say that we need to make it easier to come into this country legally than illegally? Do you know how easy it is to come here illegally, just imagine how easy he wants to make our immigration policy...It's already too easy when we have the citizenship test done in different languages...how much easier can it be?

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Re: Anyone hear Bush say...cnn debate
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2015, 10:23:52 PM »
Did you all hear Jeb Bush say that we need to make it easier to come into this country legally than illegally? Do you know how easy it is to come here illegally, just imagine how easy he wants to make our immigration policy...It's already too easy when we have the citizenship test done in different languages...how much easier can it be?

Just be thankful he actually said it in English

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2015, 10:33:51 PM »
The establishment politicians have to go!

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2015, 07:19:35 AM »
Just be thankful he actually said it in English

Hi 5.  Exactly.  When he was governor, I got tired of  hearing him over the airwaves speaking Spanish.  After last night's debate; it was determined that he was clearly one of the LOSERS.  We don't need another Bush in the oval office.  He will be no different that Hussein.  He will continue the path of destruction that this country is on and I have absolutely no doubt that under Bush we WILL lose our sovereignty.

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2015, 09:18:29 AM »
It's hilarious listening to him talk tough on terrorism, given that he has even less military experience than Donald Trump's laughable reference to attending military school.  He has never had a government job involving defense policy or foreign relations, everything he says on the topic is just someone else's agenda with its hand up his ass making the mouth parts move.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2015, 10:00:41 AM »
I thought it was hilarious when he tried to talk tough to Trump...'I just want to say if you can't handle this kind of pressure...' He almost looked like a man

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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2015, 10:01:09 AM »
Talk about the crazy uncle in the attic.  Bush is coming unhinged in his effort to "talk tough".  He's nothing but a nuisance, or as one political wag aptly put it, his attacks on Trump were like an ungainly puppy scrabbling to get traction on a waxed floor.  Except, puppies are cute, and Bush is anything but.
It was actually a pretty substantial debate and no one did badly except, imo, Bush.  He's irrelevant and should quit sucking support from Rubio since only one of them can emerge as the establishment favorite.  Rubio has somewhat of a chance, if he survives the primary, but Bush is done, over, finished, and he was before he even entered the race.
Paul, Fiorina, Carson, all four of the kiddie table debaters, and that awful Kasich just need to bow out.  All they are doing at this point is wasting supporters' money and detracting from the main political battle.  Once Iowa happens, all the preliminary skirmishes need to be over so the main battle can commence.
I like these people, except Pataki and Graham, I really think they have some good ideas.  Hell, I have good ideas and so do you, but we can't all run for president!  It's going to have to be someone who can knock heads together, look at the big picture, and just inspire a majority of the electorate, however they do it.
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Re: Anyone hear Bush say...cnn debate
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2015, 10:07:48 AM »
Bush definitely is over...but I also think that Rubio signed his death certificate as well. His immigration plan shot him in the foot. I agree that Paul and Fiorina need to bow out but they did do fairly well and they can leave gracefully. I would like Carson to stay in a bit longer, but Kasich and Pataki need to go. I liked Kasich at first but now he brings nothing to the table. Graham I would like to see him at least one time at the grown up table. He has great ideas but think he isn't being challenged enough just yet.

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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2015, 10:34:45 AM »
Bush definitely is over...but I also think that Rubio signed his death certificate as well. His immigration plan shot him in the foot. I agree that Paul and Fiorina need to bow out but they did do fairly well and they can leave gracefully. I would like Carson to stay in a bit longer, but Kasich and Pataki need to go. I liked Kasich at first but now he brings nothing to the table. Graham I would like to see him at least one time at the grown up table. He has great ideas but think he isn't being challenged enough just yet.

Oh, I agree Rubio will not get the nomination, unless of course the R powers that be broker the convention.  In which case, it will be open revolt amongst the electorate.  Graham was better when he calmly discussed ISIS and strategies in prior debates, but he yesterday came across extremely shrill, whiny and manic in his desperation to take down Trump.  He doesn't bring any ideas to the table that haven't already been articulated by others at the grownups table.
Huckabee had an awesome point last night, about going in to mosques during worship services to listen, since it's an open forum and if it's such a peaceful religion they should be actively proselytizing worshipers of different faiths, not attempting to ban them from entering a hmm, public place given tax breaks (my point, not Huck's). 
McCain, also part of that pro illegal immigration Gang of Eight, needs to go away.  And we Arizonans are gonna get another chance to get rid of him, and not with a Democrat.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/14/state-sen-kelli-ward-launches-2016-primary-challenge-to-sen-john-mccain/
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Re: Anyone hear Bush say...cnn debate
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2015, 09:56:52 PM »
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McCain, also part of that pro illegal immigration Gang of Eight, needs to go away.
Don't ya wish!  I don't think there's a serious challenger for his re-election.

Off Topic:  In my home state, Nikki Haley, another R disappointment.   Just last month she was mouthing (not really meaning it) about security concerns...that quickly faded away.  What happened?  All of a sudden the vetting process improved?  I think not. I'm surmising its another case of follow the money.

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2015, 09:23:33 PM »
There's a good reason Jeb is at 3%.
Trump observed that Jeb is sliding off the side of the debate stage.
Before you know it Jeb will fall off the debate stage and back into obscurity.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2015, 09:27:07 PM »
There's a good reason Jeb is at 3%.
Trump observed that Jeb is sliding off the side of the debate stage.
Before you know it Jeb will fall off the debate stage and back into obscurity.
The primaries haven't started yet.  Once the voting starts, all bets are off.
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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2015, 03:35:38 PM »
The primaries haven't started yet.  Once the voting starts, all bets are off.

I doubt this race will be decided as fast as Iowa, NH and SC, but look for the press to make a big deal of Cruz beating Trump in Iowa.  And they'll probably attempt to spin Bush as the comeback kid if he garners 10% of the vote. ::)
I really do think we can say, finally, goodbye to quite a few of the bottom tier candidates, some of whom ought to be home or in their own states doing the jobs they were elected for.
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2015, 07:50:23 PM »
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I really do think we can say, finally, goodbye to quite a few of the bottom tier candidates.
  Yes! Please...the sooner, the better.

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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2015, 12:50:28 PM »
Boudicca:   Yes! Please...the sooner, the better.

From your lips to God's ears, Belle, because for some of these desperate candidates *cough* Jeb :loser: it's gonna take a miracle to make them give up dreams of the White House.  Like Hitlary, he thinks it's HIS time and he's owed by the R establishment.

Last thing the electorate needs, or wants in the case of the Republicans, is two self-adoring twin peas in the same establishment pod, that the parties scheme and succeed in foisting off on the American voter every four years.  Personally just in the interest of my  :popcorn: entertainment, I am hoping for a Trump/Sanders shout match off! :-)
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2015, 02:25:52 PM »
From your lips to God's ears, Belle, because for some of these desperate candidates *cough* Jeb :loser: it's gonna take a miracle to make them give up dreams of the White House.  Like Hitlary, he thinks it's HIS time and he's owed by the R establishment.

Last thing the electorate needs, or wants in the case of the Republicans, is two self-adoring twin peas in the same establishment pod, that the parties scheme and succeed in foisting off on the American voter every four years.  Personally just in the interest of my  :popcorn: entertainment, I am hoping for a Trump/Sanders shout match off! :-)

Careful what you wish for.  There is a study done by Western Illinois University that has predicted the presidential nominee correctly since 1975 with 100% accuracy.  They are predicting that Sanders will win.

http://firebrandleft.com/university-100-accuracy-record-predicts-bernie-sanders-will-americas-next-president/
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2015, 11:17:29 PM »
Careful what you wish for.  There is a study done by Western Illinois University that has predicted the presidential nominee correctly since 1975 with 100% accuracy.  They are predicting that Sanders will win.

http://firebrandleft.com/university-100-accuracy-record-predicts-bernie-sanders-will-americas-next-president/

These would be the same genuises who predicted:

Western Illinois University's mock election predicted a landslide victory for Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders, with running mate Martin O'Malley, in 2016. The predicted Sanders-O'Malley ticket garnered 404 electoral votes to Jeb Bush-Marco Rubio's 114 votes. In the popular vote, Sanders earned 741 votes (49 percent) to Bush's 577 (38 percent).

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Western-Illinois-University-Predicts-Bernie-Sanders-Victory-in-2016-346130992.html


And so we come to today's horse race.

Trump has continued to defy all attempts to pigeonhole him, and his reach to the general population, the one the talking class denigrates as uninformed and uneducated, well, he speaks very plainly to them in a populist conversation they can follow about issues they care deeply about.  When he says he would bomb the shit out of ISIS only the rabid foaming at the mouth libs scream about the civil rights of terrorists and their families; everyone else no matter where they fall on the social issues scale does care enough about his or her own ass and those of their families that this simple message powers through their otherwise detached feelings about the election.  The fact that Trump says things that are patently outrageous at first, is brilliant theater and once he has everyone's attention he trots out the modifiers and clarifiers without ever backing down from the initial statement. 

Some people are born with political gifts and he was so blessed, although he really never dabbled in them before except for donating to everyone.  But, since he was a builder and not a politician he can get away with it.  Because whatever else he is people truly believe he means what he says and after 8 years of Phony Baloney Obola no one in their right mind wants to vote for another term of yet another lying weasel sack of shit politician no matter which side of the aisle they are on.  I don't even think ANY politics for the masses has mattered for quite some time and it's all been theater (Exhibit A being Obola and his rope a dope on hope strategy).  This time Trump is ascendant and some of that is due to the abysmal failure of the worst administration in history.  I find it quite fascinating the way he has manipulated the MSM and rubbed their noses in it publicly.  He's channeled the pent up rage in the country and focused it like a laser; he won't quit once he gets his mitts on Hillary.

All the stuff Romney shrunk from confronting Obola with, Trump will bury Hillary in and if she plays the gender victim card he'll end up turning it around on her.   She is the Titanic of the Democrat machine, and just like Trump took down the Republican machine's Titanic candidate, she too will be toast.  I just think it'd be a helluva lot more entertaining to have Chairman Sanders up there ranting back at Trump.

NOW, there is one way Sanders would win and that would be if Hillary is taken out by an indictment during 2016 (can't really see the D powers opting for that when Bernie wants to kick over their apple cart as well as any Republican's).  No ****ing way is Jeb the nominee without one third of the R base leaving the party, with or without Trump running; the disgust level would be stratospheric even compared to today's disgruntlement.  That would indeed put Bernie in as president, because let's face it, there are tons of slackers in this country, like alot of university life illiterates who think he's just the greatest thing since Lenin and Marx. :whatever:

The only way the Republicans **** this up is if they go against the will of the primary voters and allow the electors to nominate WHOEVER the people choose.  It might not be Trump, but I don't see his lead vanishing even though Cruz is gonna win Iowa's conservative fundamental Christian vote and thus carry the caucuses.  After that, unless one bump in the road is enough to make the 40%+ of Trump primary voters like me all of a sudden think of him as a loser.  99% of us won't, that I can guarantee you.

But, it's late and who knows in eight or ten weeks I may be wishing I could delete my cheerleading posts when I have egg on my face.  But, I don't think so. :-)
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Re: Anyone hear Bush say...cnn debate
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2015, 04:44:28 PM »
These would be the same genuises who predicted:

Western Illinois University's mock election predicted a landslide victory for Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders, with running mate Martin O'Malley, in 2016. The predicted Sanders-O'Malley ticket garnered 404 electoral votes to Jeb Bush-Marco Rubio's 114 votes. In the popular vote, Sanders earned 741 votes (49 percent) to Bush's 577 (38 percent).


Far from impossible, for the following reasons:

1.  As tired of the same old mainstream party bullshit as we are, the rank-and-file Dems and Progs feel the same way about the mainstream Dem party as exemplified by Hitlery and Debbie Hosemeister-Schultz.  Talking to my various Dem/Prog friends, I can't help but get the feeling that the polls are horribly underestimating Bernie's popular support with the Dem base and even the Left-Center voters.  They love him, NONE of them actually like her or consider her to be honest or as highly-qualified as the press noise machine keeps touting.

2.  Jeb is SO well-funded that he is going to stay in far past the point where most candidates would throw in the towel, hoping to come back from nowhereville like McCain did as the more-Conservative candidates take each other out or are taken down by one off-the-wall event or another.  Which, unfortunately, could happen.

3.  If Jeb becomes the standard-bearer, Conservatives are going to stay home in droves.  While an old White male Socialist may not turn out the Dems in record numbers either, I'd bet Jeb wins the "Oh sweet baby Jesus, I just can't do that" contest.
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