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Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« on: December 08, 2015, 06:26:03 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027429576

This knuckleheaded a*shole is bemoaning the fact the socialists lost. Pay attention to a lot of the replies SLAMMING the socialist gov't which just got toppled. MANY of them are Bernie supporters yet fail to see the comparison to what Bernies policies would do to the U.S. Oh, right, I forgot, WE know how to do socialism right.

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In Venezuela, the 1% won yesterday-there's nothing else you can say.
With the "opposition" controlling the legislature, Venezuela will no longer be an independent country, but once again an American colony.

Social services will be cut to nothing. The oil will be privatized(meaning the people of Venezuela will no longer benefit at all from their country even having oil) and the rich and the Americans will swagger around again as if they are the natural, eternal rulers.

Hopefully, the people's movement will learn and recover.

But for the next few years, there can be nothing but misery.

Everything humane and democratic and empowering for the people, for the time being, will stop. The economy will be "diversified"(i.e., once again subordinated to Wall Street). The community councils(the only voice the poor and the workers of Venezuela ever had, since the poor and the workers can never have a real say under "representative democracy"

The people voted...but they voted under crushing pressure from outside.

And the anti-chavistas here, all of whom have lived lives of nothing but privilege and comfort, will tell us we should be celebrating this. As if "Scandinavian social democracy" can ever be built out of a fire sale of a nation's resources and dignity.

Sickeningly, the "Socialist International"(which is clearly no longer socialist in any sense now)was happy about the victory of the Venezuelan Thatcherites and their leader, Henry "the Marco Rubio of Venezuela" Capriles.

Maybe someday, Venezuela will be free again.

55 replies or so. Have fun. Oh, our favorite pro-gun GGJohn is in the middle of it. Guess what side he/she is on?
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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2015, 07:24:42 PM »
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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 07:26:54 PM »
The people of Venezuela rejected socialism.

The people of Venezuela rejected socialism because it failed.

The people of Venezuela rejected Maduro.

The people of Venezuela spit on Chavez grave.

The people of Venezuela WON!
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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2015, 07:41:05 PM »
Irony, if it had a website it would be the DUmp.

Populated by barely functional illiterates incapable of recognizing it.

To wit:

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3. The PSUV has had almost 20 years to get it's shit together

and demonstrate that it can run the country competently. Lots of people are fed up with the constant excuses. They've failed so miserably in so many ways that it almost defies imagination.

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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 07:50:43 PM »
The people of Venezuela rejected socialism.

The people of Venezuela rejected socialism because it failed.

The people of Venezuela rejected Maduro.

The people of Venezuela spit on Chavez grave.

The people of Venezuela WON!

Oh, wrong... wrong.... wrong.  The people lost because Democracy died eLeBiNinTy!!!!!because the CIA controlled the elections stealing all their toilet paper and Reagan fired all their unions....

...and shit.  alternet said so. 

[/(D)erp]

https://youtu.be/6locfXcsQQ8
              

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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 07:59:21 PM »
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snooper2 (25,738 posts)    Response to Ken Burch (Reply #5)
25. you really have weird views of what is actually happening there...where do you get your info?

Where do you think?   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Good find, thanks!

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Jim Beard (464 posts)   Response to GGJohn
11. You are a "strange Democrat".

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Response to Jim Beard (Reply #11)Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:35 PM
GGJohn (8,215 posts)
13. Why?  Because I don't walk in lockstep with what YOU consider a Democrat?

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Response to GGJohn (Reply #13)Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:02 PM
daleanime (13,763 posts)
28. No, because you walk 'lockstep'....

at all. Although I'm told that will soon be required.

 :rotf:  Yet, you post and agree with the Ant Farm.   :whatever:

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Response to daleanime (Reply #28)Tue Dec 8, 2015, 03:03 PM
GGJohn (8,215 posts)
39. I actually consider myself more of an independent with a liberal bent.

...and it gets better:

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EX500rider (2,777 posts)
46. "The Obama Administration's restrictions on currency exchanges did massive damage."  Actually it was the Venz governments restrictions on currency exchange that did the massive damage. On top of rigid price controls during out of sight inflation.


I know ..... I know   :hyper:


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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #5)Tue Dec 8, 2015, 07:12 PM
shadowrider (4,657 posts)
53. When was the last time you had to waste a day to stand in line to buy rationed toilet paper?

Don't slam their vote unless you've walked in their shoes
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Response to shadowrider (Reply #53)Tue Dec 8, 2015, 08:05 PM
Star Member Ken Burch (38,048 posts)
58. The toilet paper shortage was caused by the rich hoarding the stuff.

Their class did the same kind of thing when Allende was in.
   :thatsright:

And I'm not slamming anyone's vote...just expressing sadness.

More profits for the rich won't solve anything. They never have.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:  It wasn't the CIA?

Priceless.
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Liberal thinking is a two-legged stool and magical thinking is one of the legs, the other is a combination of self-loating and misanthropy.  To understand it, you would have to be able to sit on that stool while juggling two elephants, an anvil and a fragmentation grenade, sans pin.

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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 08:23:50 PM »
Such a shame the Doug's stupid Ex left the island. Her commentary would be priceless.


lol.

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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2015, 10:01:37 AM »
KB and OS (who is dying, but keeps forgetting  it), should team up and
produce a movie/musical. They could name it ... Venezuela, I Weep for Thee.
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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2015, 10:05:29 AM »
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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #45)

Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:50 PM

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66. The pillaging of Venezuela has been finished for a very long time

This election outcome was about halting Venezuela's plunge into communism and starvation.

I don't equate being "progressive" with wearing Cheâ„¢ logowear and making heros out of inept third-world socialists and worse.

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Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:07 PM

Star Member Ken Burch (38,059 posts)
67. It can never be progressive to go from socialism to capitalism, though.

And nothing the State Department and Wall Street wants can ever be progressive, given what they've always pushed for in Latin America.

God,I hate these stupid ****ers.

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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2015, 10:06:34 AM »
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Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:34 AM

Star Member laserhaas (3,062 posts)
86. Trust me - you can fight back

Just look over yonder - where President of Country went to jail and bankers too;
and the people won the case of claims to protect their houses and mortgages.

Oh yeah - by the way - I'm about to kick Goldman Sachs's arse...

here in good ole America


 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2015, 10:28:22 AM »
KB and OS (who is dying, but keeps forgetting  it), should team up and
produce a movie/musical. They could name it ... Venezuela, I Weep for Thee.


And have a mini taco bar for snacks.     :rotf:
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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2015, 10:30:09 AM »
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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2015, 11:07:26 AM »

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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2015, 12:03:58 PM »

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Cheese Sandwich

 30. The 1% held the country hostage by hordIng toilet  paper.
Rat bastards.
File under "Make the Economy  Scream".
Do I detect a note off sarcasm, from Cheesy?

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32. Once again..."the voters are too STUPID too vote for the candidate-I- like.
...because it worked so well for the Sanders people.
The Brooklynite is dissing the burch boy.     
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Re: Socialists in Venezuela lost. Ken Burch haz a sad.
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2015, 12:14:26 PM »
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In Venezuela, the 1% won yesterday-there's nothing else you can say.

Good people of Venezuela, I present to you a spoiled, entitled, ignorant, American democrat that laments you trying to end your country's suffering.  If you ever stumble across this while searching the internet, please feel free to let him/her know your disgust.
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A community may possess all the necessary moral qualifications, in so high a degree, as to be capable of self-government under the most adverse circumstances; while, on the other hand, another may be so sunk in ignorance and vice, as to be incapable of forming a conception of liberty, or of living, even when most favored by circumstances, under any other than an absolute and despotic government.

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