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Offline BattleHymn

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"If an open carry or concealed carry person is shot on sight"
« on: December 04, 2015, 01:20:05 AM »
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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:23 PM
Photographer (187 posts)

If an open carry or concealed carry person is shot on sight

would the shooter be absolved by law because they felt threatened?

What should be done when guns are seen carried in areas where there's no real reason by civilians?

Sorry, I can't do the poll but...

Call the cops every time was going to be the first poll question.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:25 PM
randys1 (13,226 posts)
1. Only cops are allowed to shoot you and kill you for that excuse.

Civilians have a much higher burden of proof ...

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:26 PM
Star Member valerief (48,678 posts)
2. Interesting question. If every open carry asshole was shot because

they made the shooter feel threatened, how would that play out in court. Guess it would have to be a stand-ground shitass state.

One thing we know is if the shooter is a cop, then it's okay in any state.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:32 PM
elias49 (3,267 posts)
7. I bet the 'stand-your-ground ideologues

never considered how that could be turned around.
Heh..reap what you sow, tough guys.

Nuts!  Foiled again!   ::)

We interrupt this campfire for a sub-campfire:

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:39 PM
Star Member valerief (48,678 posts)
17. Remember that black woman in Florida(?) who tried to use

SYG when she shot a gun in the air while her husband(?) was threatening her, and the court wouldn't let her use SYG? I forget how that played out.

I guess SYG only works if you're white.

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Here it is.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/28/us/marissa-alexander-interview/
Three years in prison and she had to accept a plea bargain.

SYG is a white dude's law, for sure.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:45 PM
elias49 (3,267 posts)
22. Oh, I remember! Infuriating! nt

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:50 PM
Waldorf (264 posts)
29. The CNN story doesn't mention some facts of the case. She went out into the garage to get

the handgun and came back in. The garage door wasn't locked so she could have easily left.She didn't fire in the air, she shot at the wall behind him head high, which then deflected into the ceiling.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:09 PM
Star Member Duckhunter935 (10,533 posts)
72. why don't you tell ALL of the facts

she went out to the garage and retrieved the weapon from the car. Instead of leaving through the garage door, she went back in and fired the weapon at the mans head just missing her the child. Not to mention, I believe she was breaking a restraining order for being in the home

Staahhhp!!!  This is a no facts zone, darnit!!!  :lalala: :lalala:

Ok, back to the campfire at hand:

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:43 PM
Waldorf (264 posts)
20. If the open carry or concealed carry was brandishing their firearm in a threatening

manner, sure, its called self defense. If they are just carrying it, you get charged with murder.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:45 PM
Photographer (187 posts)
23. That could depend on...

1. What state you live in

2. Witnesses

I'd still prefer calling the cops though on every one of them.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:59 PM
Star Member Old Codger (3,077 posts)
37. OK well

If you go to some places and start calling the cops just because someone is open carrying you best have the cops on speed dial and be prepared to spend a lot of time explaining your reasoning to them and convince them that you should no be arrested..

As I stated in another post the idea behind concealed carry is in fact concealment.In fact if you really knew how many people are actually concealed carrying judging by your paranoia you would probably never go out in public...They're everywhere.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:57 PM
Photographer (187 posts)
34. Coats move, people bend over, a Glock is not all that easy to hide in the Summer.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:04 PM
TipTok (288 posts)
56. If you shoot a guy who had a holstered weapon..

... You had better have one hell of a lawyer.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:33 PM
ileus (13,348 posts)
10. Yeah I'm not sure you can just go around shooting people for your comfort.

Remember CC and OC folks are carrying for a real reason.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:37 PM
Star Member VMA131Marine (94 posts)
14. Tiny penises?

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:15 PM
Star Member cherokeeprogressive (21,263 posts)
62. I have an idea... why don't you move to an open carry state and shoot the first person you see

who's carrying a weapon, then let us know how it works out for ya. Since you're fantasizing about shooting someone, I think that's the way you should go about it. I'll send care packages.

Look for someone like this... by the way I'm pretty certain this person isn't trying to extend her penis with a gun.


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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:18 PM
Photographer (187 posts)
63. Hate to say it but if the camera there was a gun with ill intentions...

and I don't own a gun so it couldn't happen.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:19 PM
Star Member cherokeeprogressive (21,263 posts)
64. Why do you fantasize about it then? YOU'RE the person talking about shooting someone.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:22 PM
Photographer (187 posts)
68. Lame.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:29 PM
Star Member cherokeeprogressive (21,263 posts)
69. Not nearly as lame as starting threads where you fantasize about shooting people.

Seriously... what makes you think about shooting people on principle? You used the phrase "shot on sight". Is it something you've contemplated for a long time? That's kind of scary actually.

Could it be you simply started this thread in an attempt to stir up some shit?

It's got to be one or the other; you either fantasize about shooting people or seeing them get shot to satisfy some morbid curiosity, or you're stirring up shit. YOU started the thread. Which is it?

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:38 PM
Photographer (187 posts)
70. Considering YOU are the only one to make this inference

I will politely decline your supposition.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:41 PM
Star Member cherokeeprogressive (21,263 posts)
71. That's what I'd say too.

 :rotf:

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:12 PM
Star Member X_Digger (16,637 posts)
73. You do understand that 'I was afraid' is not a valid excuse, regardless of morons on TV, right?

This comes back to the 'reasonable man' standard. Would a reasonable person in similar circumstances apprehend imminent grave bodily harm or death.

Free clue: Just seeing someone with a gun on their hip or shoulder doesn't count.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2015, 01:30:05 AM by franksolich »
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Re: "If an open carry or concealed carry person is shot on sight"
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2015, 03:09:09 AM »
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Re: "If an open carry or concealed carry person is shot on sight"
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2015, 03:31:24 AM »
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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:19 PM
Star Member cherokeeprogressive (21,263 posts)
64. Why do you fantasize about it then? YOU'RE the person talking about shooting someone.


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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:22 PM
Photographer (187 posts)
68. Lame.

You scab tissue do this wherever you go.  You're confronted, you're squirming, you're making faces at the monitor and that is all you come up with.....   

Lame.   ::)

Face it.  You're a defective collection of incomplete DNA, nothing more.

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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:38 PM
Photographer (187 posts)
70. Considering YOU are the only one to make this inference

The hell does that matter?   :thatsright:

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I will politely decline your supposition.

Because you have no reply.  Busted.  Completely.  You're probably fantasizing about shooting that (D)Ummie.   :mental:
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Re: "If an open carry or concealed carry person is shot on sight"
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2015, 08:34:40 AM »
A "What if" based on ignorance of self-defense laws propounded by some one who wouldn't own a gun, but is indulging in a political wet dream. Pathetic!
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Re: "If an open carry or concealed carry person is shot on sight"
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2015, 11:04:54 AM »
sooooooo, liberals are going to carry guns to shoot people who carry guns.
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Re: "If an open carry or concealed carry person is shot on sight"
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2015, 12:38:49 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on December 04, 2015, 11:04:54 AM
sooooooo, liberals are going to carry guns to shoot people who carry guns.

I'd say the fix would be to let them thin their own numbers, but they vote even more when they're dead.
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Re: "If an open carry or concealed carry person is shot on sight"
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2015, 12:51:55 PM »
Is this one of you guys? Nobody could be this stupid. Crazy sure but not that stupid.
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Re: "If an open carry or concealed carry person is shot on sight"
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2015, 01:55:15 PM »
I don't know if I can be cynical enough to make the subject the least bit more absurd.
The example of the tree falling on a deserted island comes to mind.
Pardon me for my mixed metaphor.
If a concealed weapon becomes unconcealed on a deserted island would anyone see it ?
Presumably Photographer would know.
Possibly Phototgrapher has invented a device that can detect weapons that are concealed.
By concealed I mean passersby cannot detect it.
Or maybe Photographer wants to have the authority to shoot on sight all people whom he/she/it assumes are carrying concealed.
Photographer must have seen Schindler's list and was most impressed by the internment camp Commandant sniping scene.
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