This may be inappropriate to some, but is heartfelt..

[Mary Ann]

Nothing gets the DUmmies' day off to a good start like some good ol' fashioned white guilt.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027398460

This may be inappropriate to some, but is heartfelt..


I appreciate other cultures more than my own - white American.

This is how I was raised - to value all equally. But it has accelerated in my adulthood, and especially recently.

I hate to sound pandering, or like a wannabe. But be it African-American, Native American, Afghan, or whatever: I believe we will be better off if white America - or more precisely, white imperialist western culture - takes a breather and lets other perspectives, viewpoints, value systems, take the lead. We have not succeeded in our mindset, and in fact, on many levels, have brought destruction.

Whether in leadership, organization, philosophy, values, artistic priorities - it's time for a different "dominant/mainstream culture" to emerge. I welcome it, and look forward to it.

Not everyone is buying what Cilla is selling:

mythology (3,777 posts)
3. I think you underestimate the capacity of other cultures to suck

The west is hardly alone in committing atrocities. For as much as say Japan values certain positive ideas, they also don't welcome outsiders and committed massive war crimes that they still honor the criminals who committed them.

But, the consensus seems to be that the world would be better off without us white folks.

Aristus (35,965 posts)
4. Not pandering at all. I'm a 47 year-old white Christian male American.

And the squalid, anti-intellectual 'culture' that has grown around the dubious goal of protecting people who fit that description is utterly repellant to me.

I was raised from a very early age by unreconstructed Kennedy liberals to seek out and learn about different cultures, and to be open to ways of doing things that are different from my own.

A broad world view has enriched my life more than the power to describe. So I can't get in the gutter with people who insist they are trying to preserve 'our' way of life.

The sooner Western white capitalist imperialism is swept away on a flood-tide of human rights and global liberty, the better.

[Carl]

Dear DUmbass.

[FiddyBeowulf]

Aristus (35,965 posts)
4. Not pandering at all. I'm a 47 year-old white Christian male American.

And the squalid, anti-intellectual 'culture' that has grown around the dubious goal of protecting people who fit that description is utterly repellant to me.

I was raised from a very early age by unreconstructed Kennedy liberals to seek out and learn about different cultures, and to be open to ways of doing things that are different from my own.

A broad world view has enriched my life more than the power to describe. So I can't get in the gutter with people who insist they are trying to preserve 'our' way of life.

The sooner Western white capitalist imperialism is swept away on a flood-tide of human rights and global liberty, the better.

Until you see a massive wave of migration heading to a non-western country it is safe to assume that our way of life is what everyone else in the world wants to have and not the one where they live now.

[Skul]

Carl, that's a perfect graphic that should be added to our list.  issued.

[SVPete]

I hate to sound pandering, or like a wannabe. But be it African-American, Native American, Afghan, or whatever: I believe we will be better off if white America - or more precisely, white imperialist western culture - takes a breather and lets other perspectives, viewpoints, value systems, take the lead. We have not succeeded in our mindset, and in fact, on many levels, have brought destruction.

Native American? Like the Aztecs who ripped captives' beating hearts out of their chests in sacrifices to their gods? By the THOUSANDS!? Like the Mayans and Incas who also practiced human sacrifice? Like the Waorani who almost wiped each other out through revenge killings? Like the various North American tribes who frequently drove other tribes off "their" lands, long before Europeans came to North America? Like the several tribes who practiced cannibalism?

Africans? Like the tribes who have been slaughtering each other for centuries (Rwanda and Darfur being but the most recent examples)? And have made regions like West Africa hell-holes of warfare, slaughter and rapine? Like the tribes and bands who captured other Africans and sold them to Arab and European slave traders? And have taken and owned slaves? Heard of "necklacing", a "charming" black-on-black practice in South Africa?

East Asia? Ever heard of "comfort women"? The Japanese didn't enslave those Korean women for lack of Japanese women! Know anything at all of Japan's brutal 40-year occupation of the Korean Peninsula? Heard of the Bataan Death March or Unit 731? Heard much (anything?) of the Ainu? Heard much of NoKo's decades-long starvation of its people? Or prison camps? Heard much of Mao's Cultural Revolution? And decade or two of starving the Chinese people in trade for Russian weapons? Know much of China's decades-long efforts to wipe out Tibetan culture? Heard much of Vietnam's "reeducation" camps? Cambodia's "Killing Fields"? Burma/Myanmar driving ethnic-non-Burmese and non-Buddhist people out of the country?

South and SW Asia? Heard of Bangladeshi and Pakistani Muslims' slaughter, enslavement, and violence against Hindus and Christians? Heard of Indian Hindus' slaughter, enslavement, and violence against Muslims and Christians? Heard of Muslims' slaughter and oppression of Christians, Baha'i. and other minority faiths? Heard of Muslims' slaughter, rape, and oppression of women, including Muslim women?

c4p needs to live a few years in the cultures (s)he seems to romanticize and idealize. Experience and savor the everyday realities of those cultures.

[Big Dog]

Dear DUmbass.

What Carl said.

[wasp69]

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:16 PM

cilla4progress (4,727 posts)

This may be inappropriate to some, but is heartfelt..
I appreciate other cultures more than my own - white American.

This is how I was raised - to value all equally. But it has accelerated in my adulthood, and especially recently.

I hate to sound pandering, or like a wannabe. But be it African-American, Native American, Afghan, or whatever: I believe we will be better off if white America - or more precisely, white imperialist western culture - takes a breather and lets other perspectives, viewpoints, value systems, take the lead. We have not succeeded in our mindset, and in fact, on many levels, have brought destruction.

Cilla, you ignorant ****, "white American" culture is the only ****ing thing standing between you (and the rest of the wastrels as $kinner's gulag) and annihilation at the hands of the very same "cultures" you so admire.  The day that thin line breaks is the day you liberal trash will die in droves at the hands of those you claim to support and love.

****in' idiot... 

[SVPete]

Aristus (35,965 posts)
4. Not pandering at all. I'm a 47 year-old white Christian male American.

And the squalid, anti-intellectual 'culture' that has grown around the dubious goal of protecting people who fit that description is utterly repellant to me.

I was raised from a very early age by unreconstructed Kennedy liberals to seek out and learn about different cultures, and to be open to ways of doing things that are different from my own.

A broad world view has enriched my life more than the power to describe. So I can't get in the gutter with people who insist they are trying to preserve 'our' way of life.

The sooner Western white capitalist imperialism is swept away on a flood-tide of human rights and global liberty, the better.

Good God! What a willfully ignorant fool!

... the squalid, anti-intellectual 'culture' that has grown around the dubious goal of protecting people who fit that description ...

What in Hades is (s)he talking about? Does this fool know that most early colleges and universities were private, Christian institutions? That those Christian institutions were leaders in accepting blacks as students?

... unreconstructed Kennedy liberals to seek out and learn about different cultures ...

Does this ignorant fool know that the Kennedys resisted and harassed US civil rights leaders, including MLK Jr.? That JFK began US involvement in the Vietnam War? There are too many JFK-RFK sins to be covered by JFK's Peace Corps!

The sooner Western white capitalist imperialism is swept away on a flood-tide of human rights and global liberty, the better.

Does this fool know that the effort to end slavery worldwide originated those Western societies (s)he so detests? And was strongest in numbers and influence among Christians? That EEEE-vile imperialist Britain used its navy to interdict the slave trade?

Does this fool realize that, for all its often real faults, those EEEE-vile British imperialists ended during their rule, inter-tribal warfare, slaughter, and enslavement in Sub-Saharan Africa? And to India (whose strife may have been somewhat less bloody)? Does this ignorant fool know who tried to end the caste system in India? Or the practice of suttee?

Want to see what happened when,"Western white capitalist imperialism is swept away"? Easy enough! Look at the hell-holes of Western Africa! The Muslim-on-Christian violence in Nigeria. The 3 or 4 decades of genocides committed by the Arab-led government of Sudan. The hell-hole called Zimbabwe. South Africa's ongoing descent into hell-hole-hood. If (s)he can, take an honest look at SE Asia (formerly French Indochina): Vietnam's "reeducation" camps and oppression of ethnic minorities; Cambodia's "Killing Fields"; Laos' oppression of Christians; the oppression of ethnic and religious minorities in Burma/Myanmar.

Most of Central and South America "swept away" Spanish and Portuguese "imperialists". How's that working out for them? Including the 70 or 80 years before the US had significant involvement there (other than, obviously, Mexico, against whom the US fought a war, some 25 years after Mexico gained independence from Spain)?

As Professor Digory Kirke fictionally inquired, "What are they teaching in these schools?"

[njpines]

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[Maverick1987]

I am anxiously awaiting the self-loathing randys1's take on this.

[DumbAss Tanker]

This may be inappropriate to some, but is heartfelt..


I appreciate other cultures more than my own - white American.

This is how I was raised - to value all equally.

OK, so you were raised to value all equally.  But you value all others above the one in which you were raised.



That doesn't make any f&@#ing sense.

[SVPete]

OK, so you were raised to value all equally.  But you value all others above the one in which you were raised.
...
That doesn't make any f&@#ing sense.

Thought about, even slightly, it's pretty sick and perverse. Who wants to "value" Hitler, Mussolini, and Hideki Tojo? Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim I, II, and III? Idi Amin and Robert Mugabe? To name just a few!

Multi-culturalism sounds so nice ... until you realize what some of the cultures were/are that would have to be accepted as OK.

[Skul]

What a disgusting OP. This "cillanumber" poster is so guilty, she needs end herself.
The rest are also pearl clutching, butt hurt, sand in the vejayjay whiners.
Good grief, DUmmies, end it now. Remember, it's down the road, not across the street.

[RayRaytheSBS]

What a disgusting OP. This "cillanumber" poster is so guilty, she needs end herself.
The rest are also pearl clutching, butt hurt, sand in the vejayjay whiners.
Good grief, DUmmies, end it now. Remember, it's down the road, not across the street.

Agreed, the DUches need to go @#$% themselves with a pineapple grenade sans pin... sideways.

[obumazombie]

I saw a phase that America went through during the 80's and 90' most aptly personified by Eminem...the Wigger.
I don't see much of them today, and I wonder what has become of some of the OW's...Original Wiggers !
They certainly seemed to value the ghetto culture more than their own.

[Ptarmigan]

This may be inappropriate to some, but is heartfelt..


I appreciate other cultures more than my own - white American.

This is how I was raised - to value all equally. But it has accelerated in my adulthood, and especially recently.

I hate to sound pandering, or like a wannabe. But be it African-American, Native American, Afghan, or whatever: I believe we will be better off if white America - or more precisely, white imperialist western culture - takes a breather and lets other perspectives, viewpoints, value systems, take the lead. We have not succeeded in our mindset, and in fact, on many levels, have brought destruction.

Whether in leadership, organization, philosophy, values, artistic priorities - it's time for a different "dominant/mainstream culture" to emerge. I welcome it, and look forward to it.

Sucks to be a libtard. Always have to be bitter and angry. 

[RayRaytheSBS]

Sucks to be a libtard. Always have to be bitter and angry. 

It does seem like they are always complaining about something. They can never be happy with what they have. They are Frazier Crane if he'd gotten a doctorate in philosophy instead of psychology.