I just do not understand...

[dutch508]

Aerows (35,039 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027343216

I just do not understand Paris. How can you indiscriminately take lives like that? What motivates people to be so evil against people that never did a mean thing to them?

You see, precious little snow drop, not everyone in the world believes in fairies and unicorns. Some of those people were raised on hate and murder. The only thing they can't understand is why you don't see it.

Aerows (35,039 posts)
5. I'm still broken up about it, though *HOW* can human beings sink that low? I don't even want to regard the people that did this as human beings.

It's heinous.

Destroying the lives of people they have never even met. The only word I can come up with is evil.

Yet, you got no problem with killing unborn babies and selling their body parts. A lot of people think that's evil.

HughBeaumont (21,814 posts)
33. Someone's doing the thinking for them. Fundamentalcases are small in number but loud in action and voice. It's sad for people of faith. Not that I AM one, obviously, but still.

 

Star Member whathehell (16,227 posts)
14. Nonsense. Tell me bow "all religions" of western democracies slaughter concert goers..Oh that's right, you can't. 

Faalse equivalence. It's Radical Islam. Period.

oh- we can't allow that to stand...

rainy (4,623 posts)
20. Western democracies just substitute the word patriotism for religion and kill in the name of that.

 

puzzledeagle (47 posts)
11. Certain muslims believe killing "kuffars" earns you instant passage to heaven. You're going to have a very hard time fighting people who believe killing innocent people is a religious duty. This is a very, very ugly world we live in.

Sorry little guy, all muslims are taught that.

JonathanRackham (157 posts)
27. Evil Exist. Not limited to one religious group, one political group, one group..... Evil can exist in the heart and mind of one person with cataclysmic results.

and yet- it sure seems like a lot of the evil is wrapped up in one special group, doesn't it?

mythology (3,646 posts)
34. I think that the people who do this would disagree about the innocence of those harmed. They would argue about violence against Muslims in general and probably about how Muslim immigrants are treated in France. I'm not saying they are right, but they believe themselves to be.

And plenty of little DUmp Monkiez cry out and beat their chests and declare the west guilty.

[Karin]

Response to KittyWampus (Reply #93)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:42 AM

snooper2 (25,547 posts)
95. Oh, not at all, religious brainwashing three times a day since birth

So the old fundie men can have multiple wives, **** 14 year old brides, and stone people who don't agree with them...

Snooper2 is getting pretty outspoken.  May be having pizza shortly. 

[jb2u11]

Star Member whathehell (16,227 posts)
14. Nonsense. Tell me bow "all religions" of western democracies slaughter concert goers..Oh that's right, you can't.

Faalse equivalence. It's Radical Islam. Period.

Snooper2 is getting pretty outspoken.  May be having pizza shortly. 

whathehell might be having some as well. Surprised that was allowed to stand.

[98ZJUSMC]

puzzledeagle (47 posts)
11. Certain muslims believe killing "kuffars" earns you instant passage to heaven. You're going to have a very hard time fighting people who believe killing innocent people is a religious duty. This is a very, very ugly world we live in.

Sorry little guy, all muslims are taught that.

You see, you've all been protected and coddled all of your miserable lives, precious.  By we, the ones ready to do violence on your behalf to keep you safe, in your spaces.  The ones you mock, the ones you hate, the ones you want to go away.

The ones you want to die horribly.

Sorry.



We're not going anywhere. 

So, .... shut up and stay safely ensconced in your bubble of soothing media psychogarbage, narcissistic twitter feeds and less than worthless political indoctrination.

....and stay out of our way.   

[Boudicca]

Snooper2 is getting pretty outspoken.  May be having pizza shortly.

Snooper is way too kind; these Mooslem men degraded pieces of filth are allowed to **** any girl at age 9.  Moohammed said so.  And did it her.

[tanstaafl]

Aerows primitive should just pet raccoons and other wild critters and leave the heavy lifting to men that are better trained.

And not stupid enough to pet wild animals.

[miskie]

I just do not understand Paris. How can you indiscriminately take lives like that? What motivates people to be so evil against people that never did a mean thing to them?

France is the ideal DUmmy state.

Ginormous government & social programs
A virtually disarmed populace
Open borders

Exactly what you DUmmys want here.

As a result, its people are essentially cattle - to be slaughtered and exploited by others will bad intent. You primitives (all of you, worldwide) refuse to acknowledge that there are those who will do you harm, and no amount of 'therapy' is going to change it.

[SVPete]

How can you indiscriminately take lives like that?

It wasn't "indiscriminate". It was VERY discriminate!

France's strict gun laws have disarmed much of its people. Thus, a single attack (ala Charlie Hebdo - pilot run?) is unlike;ly to be opposed, and police won't show up for a while. A multi-point assault will be more than local police can handle, resulting in even longer delay in the arrival of opposition.

The assault was on a Friday evening, Part 1: French people, like other free people in reasonably comfortable circumstances like to do recreational things - dine out, concerts, sports events. For terrorists, such gatherings mean lots of victims in a small area.

The assault was on a Friday evening, Part 2: For Muslims, Friday is a holy day. Thus, faithful Muslims would be unlikely to be out and about where the terrorists were going to be attacking. Any Muslims who were are just not sufficiently faithful and their deaths would be no great loss, a warning to other Muslims to be faithful.

France has a fairly large Muslim minority. At a minimum, those Muslims are camouflage among whom the terrorists can appear like ordinary, relatively peaceful (compared to the attacks), Muslims. And among that large minority are some who would be at least somewhat sympathetic. So detection beforehand would be very unlikely, and the effectiveness of the attacks would possibly be augmented.

The Qur'an teaches faithful Muslims to slaughter unbelievers if circumstances allow, and is very, ummmmmm, flexible about when doing so is appropriate. And for those killed in fighting for Allah, there's the 72 virgins. DU-folk and other spouters of the Islamophobia should read the Qur'an (in translation) some time. It should scare them @#$%less for a week or two at least!

So this multi-point assault was far from indiscriminate. In TV crime show terms, the Qur'an provides the motive, and France's laws and culture provided ample opportunity. And that last statement does suggest that it could happen here.

[jukin]

Aerows (35,039 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027343216

I just do not understand Paris. How can you indiscriminately take lives like that? What motivates people to be so evil against people that never did a mean thing to them?

It's called the koran.

[USA4ME]

France is the ideal DUmmy state.

Ginormous government & social programs
A virtually disarmed populace
Open borders

Exactly what you DUmmys want here.

As a result, its people are essentially cattle - to be slaughtered and exploited by others will bad intent. You primitives (all of you, worldwide) refuse to acknowledge that there are those who will do you harm, and no amount of 'therapy' is going to change it.

You got it.

I have to admit I'm having a hard time drumming up a tear for any of this. You elect a bunch of liberals whose attitudes are "Just be nice to them and they'll be nice back" actually believing that's a strategy? These Islamic militants have telling us for years what their intentions are, and what? You didn't believe them or something?

Now a handful of these libs are acting all tough, like now we have to hit back. Well, what reason do I have to believe you're not just going to punch for a short time and then go back to the way you were before this all happened? You certainly haven't displayed any consistency in the past. And you're a long way from convincing me you're going to abandon your liberal ideology and start thinking like an adult. Once I see you get to the point where you're completely denouncing liberal ideology and correctly blaming yourself for what's happening, then we'll talk.

I'm really developing a hands-off opinion of all this. I definitely don't want anymore USA involvement until we get a Commander-in-Chief who knows what they're doing, and that ain't Dear Leader or Hillary. All the Dems will do is get a bunch of soldiers killed in some half-baked scheme.

The Euros put these left-wing freaks in office, so let them deal with the consequences. We'll have to deal with our own consequences of having our own brand of libs in power, because it's coming this way. I just hope the one's who end up dying aren't conservatives, because we aren't the one's who decided they wanted their gov't to play footsies with terrorists.

.

[franksolich]

I have to admit I'm having a hard time drumming up a tear for any of this. You elect a bunch of liberals whose attitudes are "Just be nice to them and they'll be nice back" actually believing that's a strategy?

Uh huh.

These Islamic militants have telling us for years what their intentions are, and what? You didn't believe them or something?

Uh huh again; apparently the primitives equate Islamic militants with our own Democrats, liberals, and primitives, supposing they're lying all the time.....just like our own Democrats, liberals, and primitives.

Now a handful of these libs are acting all tough, like now we have to hit back. Well, what reason do I have to believe you're not just going to punch for a short time and then go back to the way you were before this all happened? You certainly haven't displayed any consistency in the past. And you're a long way from convincing me you're going to abandon your liberal ideology and start thinking like an adult. Once I see you get to the point where you're completely denouncing liberal ideology and correctly blaming yourself for what's happening, then we'll talk.

Give it up; it's never going to happen.  The primitives have a subconscious death wish.....which is usually okay, excepting they want us to die with them.

I'm really developing a hands-off opinion of all this. I definitely don't want anymore USA involvement until we get a Commander-in-Chief who knows what they're doing, and that ain't Dear Leader or Hillary. All the Dems will do is get a bunch of soldiers killed in some half-baked scheme.

Absolutely; speaking as a professional civilian, I'm totally against any sort of action on our part that puts the lives and safety of our military services on the line.....especially for someone who doesn't respect them, and all that they do for us.  I'll be damned if someone has to get even a paper-cut for 0bama or Messalina Agrippina or that old guy what'shisname.

The Euros put these left-wing freaks in office, so let them deal with the consequences. We'll have to deal with our own consequences of having our own brand of libs in power, because it's coming this way. I just hope the one's who end up dying aren't conservatives, because we aren't the one's who decided they wanted their gov't to play footsies with terrorists.

Amen.  The primitives own this, so the primitives should be first in the firing line.

[hillneck]

What part of "soft target" don't the DUmmies understand.  It's much easier to attack a unarmed concert hall than a military compound.  Just like here in the U.S. and the gun free zone attacks.   

[franksolich]

What part of "soft target" don't the DUmmies understand.  It's much easier to attack a unarmed concert hall than a military compound.  Just like here in the U.S. and the gun free zone attacks.   

The primitives don't understand a Hell of a lot of things.

Trust me; they don't.  They're clueless.

[Mr Mannn]

This fundamental failure to understand is why you can not trust a liberal to defend this country.

[franksolich]

This fundamental failure to understand is why you can not trust a liberal to defend this country.

Right; they have a death wish.

Normally one would say, "okay, fine, go off and die then."

But the problem here is that they expect us to die with them, take us down with them.

<<<would just as soon not.

[DumbAss Tanker]

You see, you've all been protected and coddled all of your miserable lives, precious.  By we, the ones ready to do violence on your behalf to keep you safe, in your spaces.  The ones you mock, the ones you hate, the ones you want to go away.

The ones you want to die horribly.

Sorry.



We're not going anywhere. 

So, .... shut up and stay safely ensconced in your bubble of soothing media psychogarbage, narcissistic twitter feeds and less than worthless political indoctrination.

....and stay out of our way.   

The protection of people like the DUmmtards, drug addicts, hippies, and 'Activists' was purely an unintended and moderately unpleasant, but necessary, side effect of my service protecting things I really did care about.

In fact their very existence is the unpleasant downside of a free, prosperous, and litigious society in which people are protected from the natural consequences of their own stupidity.

[USA4ME]

I watched 60 Minutes last night and Scott Pelley was doing a story on the Paris attacks. He interviewed a man named Alan Bowers who was the former Security Advisor for the French gov't.

Pelley went over the attacks that ISIS had pulled-off lately and then asked this guy what he thought and asked if this is over. Here was Bowers' answer:

"No, it's just the beginning. (pause) I just said it; it's just the beginning. They (the terrorists) are right. We need to listen to them, read them, understand what they say, the way they say it, and what they want. And they say it all the time."

Here's Pelley's reply:

"You take them at their word." (Mr. Bowers answered "Of course. Why not?")

Really?? Really, Scott?? "You take them at their word." They've been doing exactly what they've been saying they're going to do for years and years, and you ask if we are to take them at their word!?!

This is the level of stupidity that we're having to deal with. Liberals are too dumb to understand what's going on. Let them be the victims of their own stupidity.

.

[njpines]

Aerows:

I just do not understand Paris. How can you indiscriminately take lives like that? What motivates people to be so evil against people that never did a mean thing to them?

GODDAMMIT, you stupid rabid raccoon bitten scrunt! Where the hell was this sentiment when 3500 innocent people OF YOUR OWN DAMN COUNTRY were taken out in the worst terrorist attack ever in this country???? Worrying about what GWB was reading to 7 year olds?

You people have the absolute worst case of either stuffing your head in the sand or futilely wringing your hands and wailing "Oh woe and misery, what should be done?" Things were done and then your effing savior was voted into office and now they've been undone, bitch. And this is the result. If our military had been allowed to continue their mission without 1 and 3/4ths of their hands tied behind their backs, there would be no ISIS or if there was, they'd be a non-factor.

OK, I'm going to stop banging my head on my desk -- people are looking at me oddly.

I'll try a wall instead 

[Carl]

Aerows:

GODDAMMIT, you stupid rabid raccoon bitten scrunt! Where the hell was this sentiment when 3500 innocent people OF YOUR OWN DAMN COUNTRY were taken out in the worst terrorist attack ever in this country???? Worrying about what GWB was reading to 7 year olds?

You people have the absolute worst case of either stuffing your head in the sand or futilely wringing your hands and wailing "Oh woe and misery, what should be done?" Things were done and then your effing savior was voted into office and now they've been undone, bitch. And this is the result. If our military had been allowed to continue their mission without 1 and 3/4ths of their hands tied behind their backs, there would be no ISIS or if there was, they'd be a non-factor.

OK, I'm going to stop banging my head on my desk -- people are looking at me oddly.

I'll try a wall instead 

Next time don`t hold back Sue.   

[Crazy Horse]

Next time don`t hold back Sue.   

I think she's being coy and not saying what she thinks.

[DumbAss Tanker]

She's like that.  Real demure and shy.  Prolly learned it from Cindy.

[Ptarmigan]

Leftists and Islamists are the same things.

[98ZJUSMC]

The protection of people like the DUmmtards, drug addicts, hippies, and 'Activists' was purely an unintended and moderately unpleasant, but necessary, side effect of my service protecting things I really did care about.

In fact their very existence is the unpleasant downside of a free, prosperous, and litigious society in which people are protected from the natural consequences of their own stupidity.

Oh, completely.  They simply benefit from the work and sacrifice of others.



As usual.

[BlueStateSaint]

It wasn't "indiscriminate". It was VERY discriminate!

France's strict gun laws have disarmed much of its people. Thus, a single attack (ala Charlie Hebdo - pilot run?) is unlike;ly to be opposed, and police won't show up for a while. A multi-point assault will be more than local police can handle, resulting in even longer delay in the arrival of opposition.

The assault was on a Friday evening, Part 1: French people, like other free people in reasonably comfortable circumstances like to do recreational things - dine out, concerts, sports events. For terrorists, such gatherings mean lots of victims in a small area.

The assault was on a Friday evening, Part 2: For Muslims, Friday is a holy day. Thus, faithful Muslims would be unlikely to be out and about where the terrorists were going to be attacking. Any Muslims who were are just not sufficiently faithful and their deaths would be no great loss, a warning to other Muslims to be faithful.

France has a fairly large Muslim minority. At a minimum, those Muslims are camouflage among whom the terrorists can appear like ordinary, relatively peaceful (compared to the attacks), Muslims. And among that large minority are some who would be at least somewhat sympathetic. So detection beforehand would be very unlikely, and the effectiveness of the attacks would possibly be augmented.

The Qur'an teaches faithful Muslims to slaughter unbelievers if circumstances allow, and is very, ummmmmm, flexible about when doing so is appropriate. And for those killed in fighting for Allah, there's the 72 virgins. DU-folk and other spouters of the Islamophobia should read the Qur'an (in translation) some time. It should scare them @#$%less for a week or two at least!

So this multi-point assault was far from indiscriminate. In TV crime show terms, the Qur'an provides the motive, and France's laws and culture provided ample opportunity. And that last statement does suggest that it could happen here.

H5 and a half.  Plus, 98ZJUSMC and Dutch.  This shit will stop only when Muslims stop it--and the only way they'll stop it is to be eradicated.

I overlooked Sue . . .

Sorry, milady!

[txradioguy]

Aerows:

GODDAMMIT, you stupid rabid raccoon bitten scrunt! Where the hell was this sentiment when 3500 innocent people OF YOUR OWN DAMN COUNTRY were taken out in the worst terrorist attack ever in this country???? Worrying about what GWB was reading to 7 year olds?

You people have the absolute worst case of either stuffing your head in the sand or futilely wringing your hands and wailing "Oh woe and misery, what should be done?" Things were done and then your effing savior was voted into office and now they've been undone, bitch. And this is the result. If our military had been allowed to continue their mission without 1 and 3/4ths of their hands tied behind their backs, there would be no ISIS or if there was, they'd be a non-factor.

OK, I'm going to stop banging my head on my desk -- people are looking at me oddly.

I'll try a wall instead 

The truly indoctrinated kool aid drinkers like Aerows will never accept or admit that it's their Liberalism that causes tragedies like what transpired in Paris.

He/She thinks that if everyone was just as Liberal as she was/is the mean people of the world would be so impressed that they'd stop being mean people.

They blame the military and people that believe in borders and national security for things like the Paris attacks.  They will never fathom that had people been more vigilant...if politicians were more frank in their discussions about terrorism and it's root causes these days...Paris might not have happened.

Aerows will never get it the way you and I do.  He/she/it will still be trying to fathom why things like this happen right up to the moment a jihadi separates his/her head from his/her body and puts it on a pike outside the house.