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Offline Vagabond

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Re: The face of an innocent girl killed by marijuana prohibition
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2008, 06:26:02 PM »
BS, Bondai because that is how it's done.

The criminals she was dealing with are guys you do not cross.  Ever.  They don't have the regular slate of judges available to them, so typically Judge Colt settles their disputes.  His decisions usually do not allow for appeals.

She was just a number to them.  Just as a fry cook at McDonald's is replaced the day after he quits, she could have walked away and they would have another druggie drug dealer working the street tomorrow. 

If she developed a history of trading drugs, the cops would eventually ship her up to state.  Getting her to snitch nabs them a bigger fish, she would have been given a chance to clean up and clear out.

The cops were offering her a better deal than hew other business relationship was, even at greater risk.
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Re: The face of an innocent girl killed by marijuana prohibition
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2008, 09:04:58 PM »
The one article said that she left the area that was under surveillance to go meet the other people. They had tried and failed to stop her. 

They couldn't have tried very hard if she was suppose to be under their control. The cops were just lazy.


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Re: The face of an innocent girl killed by marijuana prohibition
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2008, 09:05:48 PM »
Gee, it sounds kinda like she coulda saved her own life by just NOT ******* AROUND WITH DRUGS IN THE FIRST PLACE! 

I guess we will never know since since she was used as a sacrifice by lazy cops.


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Re: The face of an innocent girl killed by marijuana prohibition
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2008, 09:06:33 PM »
Gee, it sounds kinda like she coulda saved her own life by just NOT ******* AROUND WITH DRUGS IN THE FIRST PLACE! 
How dare you suggest that someone take personal responsibility for their lives!!1!1!! You sound like some kind of Rethug Freeper to me. :-)

Nice try but no cigar. :whatever:


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Re: The face of an innocent girl killed by marijuana prohibition
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2008, 09:08:07 PM »
She was a druggie that's for sure and she had some time coming but her crimes did not carry a death penalty. She should not have been placed in a situation where she could be killed. My feeling is that the police are abusing these "snitch" programs and in the process getting people killed, it's rediculous.

I know she signed the paperwork but I am sure she wasn't told she could be murdered. Cops piss me off and this war on drugs is out of control. Just because a person is doing drugs does not mean that they are expendable. The cops in this story put a girl in harms way to protect their own cowardly asses. :banghead:
Bitch slap to Bondai for sounding like a DUmmie. She knew the risks. If she wasn't willing to accept them, she should've just done her time like everybody else. The narcotics game is a dangerous business. I don't know why some people insist that law enforcement try to make it safe.

BS me all you want. The cops should not be placing people in situations where they could be killed, it's criminal. The girl could quite possibly have been helped and lived a productive life, now she is dead. She died doing a job we pay cops to do and for which she was not qualified.
We use snitches because the smarter crooks won't do business with someone they don't know. Judging from the facts of the case, this girl was in "middle management" of the local drug trade. The next highest guy in the pecking order would not sell to just anyone, that's what he had her for. Officer Smith can't just walk up to their suspect and order 20 pounds of weed and 500 hits of "X". If he did, the first words out of the crook's mouth would be "who the F$*k are you?!". Tragic as it is, it's just how the game gets played.  



So you just sacrifice "druggies" instead, their lives have no meaning, right?


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Re: The face of an innocent girl killed by marijuana prohibition
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2008, 09:09:16 PM »
BS, Bondai because that is how it's done.

The criminals she was dealing with are guys you do not cross.  Ever.  They don't have the regular slate of judges available to them, so typically Judge Colt settles their disputes.  His decisions usually do not allow for appeals.

She was just a number to them.  Just as a fry cook at McDonald's is replaced the day after he quits, she could have walked away and they would have another druggie drug dealer working the street tomorrow. 

If she developed a history of trading drugs, the cops would eventually ship her up to state.  Getting her to snitch nabs them a bigger fish, she would have been given a chance to clean up and clear out.

The cops were offering her a better deal than hew other business relationship was, even at greater risk.

Well in this case they will be shipping her in a box.... :whatever:


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Re: The face of an innocent girl killed by marijuana prohibition
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2008, 09:09:22 PM »
She was a druggie that's for sure and she had some time coming but her crimes did not carry a death penalty. She should not have been placed in a situation where she could be killed. My feeling is that the police are abusing these "snitch" programs and in the process getting people killed, it's rediculous.

I know she signed the paperwork but I am sure she wasn't told she could be murdered. Cops piss me off and this war on drugs is out of control. Just because a person is doing drugs does not mean that they are expendable. The cops in this story put a girl in harms way to protect their own cowardly asses. :banghead:

Somethings tells me folks looking to buy quanities of anything illegal ain't going to be dealing with Missionaries.  Regardless they doing it as part of a sting op or otherwise.
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Re: The face of an innocent girl killed by marijuana prohibition
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2008, 09:21:28 PM »
So you just sacrifice "druggies" instead, their lives have no meaning, right?
Druggies have made their choices.  They chose to do drugs.  This one chose not only to use drugs, she chose to sell them to other druggies.  She probably got herself into hock with dealer at some point and that is how she wound up dealing, but she still had choices.  She could have left town without leaving a forwarding address.  Instead, she then gets caught dealing.

The cops offered her a reasonable deal.  In exchange for four years of her life that they owned at they point, they told her they wanted the asshole that was distributing the drugs.  She could have done the four years.  After she agreed, she should not have done anything at all that put her outside of their protection.  She did.  Again, she made a choice. 

I've seen it more than once and my family is full of cops, and one or two druggies.

Granted they need to execute the person who made the choice to kill her as soon as legally possible.
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Re: The face of an innocent girl killed by marijuana prohibition
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2008, 09:29:57 PM »
BS, Bondai because that is how it's done.

The criminals she was dealing with are guys you do not cross.  Ever.  They don't have the regular slate of judges available to them, so typically Judge Colt settles their disputes.  His decisions usually do not allow for appeals.

She was just a number to them.  Just as a fry cook at McDonald's is replaced the day after he quits, she could have walked away and they would have another druggie drug dealer working the street tomorrow. 

If she developed a history of trading drugs, the cops would eventually ship her up to state.  Getting her to snitch nabs them a bigger fish, she would have been given a chance to clean up and clear out.

The cops were offering her a better deal than hew other business relationship was, even at greater risk.

Well in this case they will be shipping her in a box.... :whatever:
Why do you think she needed them to put her in the box she was so conveniently building for herself?  She was invloved in the illicit drug trade.  She was both using and selling.  Go ahead and ask Tantal what usually happens to that particular breed of drug dealer.

BTW, when my younger sister was aspiring to be a cop, they used her all the time on alcohol and mary jane busts.  In her words, "No sweat".  Then again my sister isn't this breed of dumb.
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Re: The face of an innocent girl killed by marijuana prohibition
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2008, 09:53:48 PM »
Speaking of "choices" what about the rat**** that shot the poor girl. If he thought she was a risk, why not, oh... I don't know, not farking sell to her??? No. The bastard killed her.

Whoever mentioned the DP for that dude before... right on!

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