Trump will be the Republican nominee

[dutch508]

The Republican establishment is sad because they really want Jeb. 

The DUmp Monkies are sad because they really want Jeb. 

yardwork (39,058 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027306673

Trump will be the Republican nominee

The assumption that his appeal will fade is wishful thinking on the part of the Republican establishment. He will be the nominee. Trump will win the delegates needed to win the nomination at the Republican Convention.

Trump appeals to a lot of people for reasons that the Republican Party itself created. Now they're going to have to deal with them.

[he's talking about the TEA Party people...]

cantbeserious (8,629 posts)
1. If HRC Is The DNC Nominee - Trump Will Become President

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Hillary is the DNC.

B Calm (24,450 posts)
14. LOL, he will be toast. I wonder who she'll pick for her running mate.

cantbeserious (8,629 posts)
22. Not The Big Picture - Trump And he Republicans Will Generate Unlimited Fear - Fear Will Sink HRC

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Reter (1,412 posts)
52. Yes but a lot of others will never vote for her

She does poor on indies and many of us here simply won't vote for another Clinton. I'm not saying Trump will beat her, I'm saying it's not set in the bag. It's gonna be tough.

bowens43 (15,452 posts)
30. I agree, hell I'd have a hard time choosing between the two.....

that's why I and many, mnay other progressives and liberals will stay home. The only politician that republicans and independents despise more then Obama is hillary. She will never be president.

ecstatic (19,965 posts)
41. Let's be clear, true progressives and liberals would not stay home

Nor do they share your outlandish opinions of Clinton and Obama. Nice try though.

Cosmocat (6,889 posts)
72. jesus christ

you do know Barrack Hussein Obama was elected POTUS twice, right?

And, if all these people hate him more than Hill, that means that, you know, Hillary can win, too?

MineralMan (77,117 posts)
49. That may well be the silliest claim I have

seen on DU for a very long time. It is simply not true. If Trump is the candidate, any Democrat would beat him in a landslide.

yeoman6987 (9,255 posts)
2. If trump is the nominee, who would be our best candidate to beat him?

That is something we need to think about.

BlueJazz (24,152 posts)
5. I think trump is going to be a LOT harder to beat than people here on DU think.

His appeal crosses a lot of lines and He'll have the money, the Media and a lot of the older generation.

Fred Sanders (18,632 posts)
8. The only line Trump crosses is the line between sanity and insanity.

If Sanders and Trump compete for the RW vote, how do you think that will work out?

The mythical "crossover" appeal of Sanders to insane RW voters fails to take into account the greater "cross out" of the sane liberal vote!

Appealing to the insane voters of the GOP as if that does no harm with the liberal sane vote is a gross out of logic for me.

Reter (1,412 posts)
53. You do know that the Republican establishment controls "machine vote fraud" right?

Guess who the Republican establishment hates? Trump. They would rather have Clinton.

 

Cosmocat (6,889 posts)
62. He's now joke for sure

I thought this was going to be like the last two presidentials where pretty much everyone in the R clown car had their day in the sun, but it was clear by August that Trump was different.

I still think the biggest threat is Rubio, if any of the actual politicians in the freak show can break through it will be him, and if he is their candidate he is the strongest on the primary.

But, Trump absolutely can win the nomination and also the general.

This country is THAT stupid.

Timmy5835 (349 posts)
10. Now that's just plain stupid

If Trump becomes the Republican nominee that would be a God send for ANY Democratic nominee. He's been successful with his base, which are basically uninformed people and he's been able to control that process. Once he get to the General he loses all control. The media and public focuses on policy rather then style. Once that process begins, he's toast.

saltpoint (47,600 posts)
12. Possibly. It would put Republican Party establishment types in an impossible situation, which would be kind of entertaining to watch.

On the other hand, Trump is a bigoted jerk, and most of us couldn't stomach him for longer than ten minutes in any venue.

As nuts as Trump is, I don't think he's as far off the rails as Carson. Carson is eerie when he makes those constant Hitler references and insists on multiple re-tellings of his "I stabbed a guy when I was a kid" tale.

If Trump and Carson stumble, the guy who could walk into the convention with a lot of delegates is Ted Cruz.

Marrah_G (27,421 posts)
13. Good news then

My conservative friend who has never voted democrat said he would pick Sanders over Trump due to our conversations and suggestions that he look into bernie's views.

 

EL34x4 (448 posts)
26. If a brokered convention shuts out Trump

And saddles the GOP with an establishment candidate like Jeb, I think there will be millions of pissed-off Republican voters who stay home on election day.

The message they're sending loud and clear is that they don't want an establishment candidate. This message is scaring the hell out of the GOP donor class.

Let's take a look at this:

If a brokered convention Super delegates shuts out Trump Bernie

And saddles the GOP Democrat Party with an establishment candidate like Jeb Hillary, I think there will be millions of pissed-off Republican Democrat voters who stay home on election day.

The message they're sending loud and clear is that they don't want an establishment candidate. This message is scaring the hell out of the GOP DNC donor class.

Ah, yes... much better.

emulatorloo (25,964 posts)
31. I think the big money and establishment have settled on Rubio as the Trump killer. I have no idea what will happen. But seems like big donors are going his way now. Last I heard, Koch Bros were considering purchasing Rubio. Agreed that Trump is not going to fade away. Much talk about how he was terrible at the debate, but the last post-debate poll I saw showed him out ahead of Carson.

CanonRay (6,518 posts)
33. He'll never get above 30% of the Repugs. And he'll never be an acceptable compromise candidate. Of course, I said the country would never elect a has-been actor as President

tularetom (21,830 posts)
39. As Thom Hartmann always says The difference in American politics is no longer between Democrats and republicans. It isn't between "liberals" and "conservatives". Rather it is between insiders and outsiders. Trump is the ultimate outsider. Bernie Sanders is an outsider. Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are stereotypical insiders. Voters are sick and tired of the same old shit. Many potential Sanders voters will vote for Trump or sit out the election if the choice is between two more tweedledee and tweedledum candidates.

HassleCat (2,509 posts)
65. Chickens coming home to roost and all that

It is true that Trump would be the ideal leader for a government where Congress is well stocked with members who spend all their time trying to out-crazy each other to get noticed by Fox News. He has enormous appeal to all the old, retired people who believe they deserve a free ride in their golden years. His cranky outbursts and blustery pronouncements fit perfectly with the Zeitgeist of every senior trailer park in the country.

ileus (13,056 posts)
74. Trump is going to hand the oval office to HRC, he's just playing them for the fools they are.

[thundley4]

B Calm (24,450 posts)
14. LOL, he will be toast. I wonder who she'll pick for her running mate.

I can guarantee that Hillary will pick a minority as he VP. The Democrat Party of old white people needs some color for their campaign.  It won't be a black man, though.

Obama has pretty much ruined the hopes of any black winning a national office for decades.

[USA4ME]

B Calm

14. LOL, he will be toast.

I wonder who she'll pick for her running mate.

This primitive is a bern-out kook. Why is this dolt claiming Billary will be the nominee?

Fred Sanders

8. ... the liberal sane vote ...

No such animal.

tularetom

39. (snip)

Rather it is between insiders and outsiders. Trump is the ultimate outsider. Bernie Sanders is an outsider. Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton are stereotypical insiders....

Correction: Bush, Clinton, and Sanders are insiders. Trump is not.

How anyone could believe that Sanders, who's been in Congress since 1991, isn't an insider needs to be beaten severely with a baseball bat.

.

[I_B_Perky]

    Marrah_G (27,421 posts)
    13. Good news then
    My conservative friend who has never voted democrat said he would pick Sanders over Trump due to our conversations and suggestions that he look into bernie's views.

Here is the actual conversation:

Dummie: What do you think about Bernie?
Conservative Friend: Who?
Dummie: Bernie Sanders
CF: Who is that? Is he the guy in the KFC commercial that replaced Col Sanders?
Dummie: NO!!!! BERNIE SANDERS!!! Running for prez!!! Gonna right this nation!!! Gonna bring us socialist paradise!!! <spittle flying>
CF: <WTF is this guy on?>
Dummie: You seriously cannot be voting for Trump? He is a Teabagger, a nazi, grandma will get thrown off the cliff!!!
CF: <gotta be careful here...best not push this guy over the edge>
Dummie: Are you gonna vote for Trump?!?!?! Or any other rethuglicon?!?!?!
CF: Ummm No... I am gonna vote for Barney Sanders.
Dummie: Bernie!!
CF: Yes, yes, Bernie Sanders. I misspoke. Sorry.  Look... I got to be going. See ya later.
Dummie: Remember it is BERNIE SANDERS!!!
CF: See ya!

[DumbAss Tanker]

B Calm (24,450 posts)
14. LOL, he will be toast. I wonder who she'll pick for her running mate.

Well, it won't be Bernie or anybody with deep ties to Obama.  More likely to be someone like Bill Richardson (Though he may be somewhat on the outs with the Clinton Crime Family right at the moment) - A male, with some minority connection (Preferably Hispanic, or who at least looks kind of Hispanic), and a loyal Clintonista.

[BlueStateSaint]

Well, it won't be Bernie or anybody with deep ties to Obama.  More likely to be someone like Bill Richardson (Though he may be somewhat on the outs with the Clinton Crime Family right at the moment) - A male, with some minority connection (Preferably Hispanic, or who at least looks kind of Hispanic), and a loyal Clintonista.

It'll be Julian Castro, the former mayor of San Antonio.

[DumbAss Tanker]

It'll be Julian Castro, the former mayor of San Antonio.

That's a pretty good guess, you may very well be proved correct.

[FiddyBeowulf]

It'll be Julian Castro, the former mayor of San Antonio.

My thoughts as well.

Reter (1,412 posts)
53. You do know that the Republican establishment controls "machine vote fraud" right?

Guess who the Republican establishment hates? Trump. They would rather have Clinton.

This is the main reason I hate the GOP establishment so much, they used their ability to control machine vote fraud to have Obama win the presidency not just once but twice. 

[Maverick1987]

Reter (1,412 posts)
52. Yes but a lot of others will never vote for her

She does poor on indies and many of us here simply won't vote for another Clinton. I'm not saying Trump will beat her, I'm saying it's not set in the bag. It's gonna be tough.

Nadin, is that you?

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Nadin, is that you?

Perhaps but I don't think she's able to write so clearly.