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I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« on: October 26, 2015, 10:01:11 AM »
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I made a racially insensitive remark at work


As soon as the words came out of my mouth, I realized what a complete idiot I am. How I could possibly have thought such a remark would not be perceived for exactly what it was: insulting. The person about whom I was speaking was understandably deeply offended and angry. I immediately apologized, verbally and in writing. She was having none of it. That is clearly her prerogative.

Naturally I was called into the CEO's office and presented with a written warning which will never, ever go away. Apparently I am lucky to still have a job, and it's only because the CEO chose not to comply with the offended person's demand that I be fired.

The fact that I have been with the company for almost two decades and am a "key player" makes not one bit of difference, nor should it. The fact that I've never said or done anything remotely like this before matters not at all. The fact that other offensive speech (of which there's quite a bit) in our office goes unchallenged, is of no consequence. I said it; I own it; and I will pay for it for the rest of my life. I have never wished more for a "rewind" button to pull those words back into my mouth. I'm not "that person" (even if for a moment I was). I've tried very hard to educate myself from a racist upbringing not to be "that person."

My question to DUers is: how, over time, can I demonstrate my goodwill and atone for my error? Is there anything at all that can be done, now or in the future, to make amends to this person (without seeming like a disgusting suck-up)? Obviously, "think before you open your big mouth" is at the top of that list. You can be sure I'll be hiding under a rock for the next million years, so my mere presence doesn't give offense.

If DU thinks I deserve further excoriation, then bring it. This is not about my comfort level, and never will be. I want to fix my behavior in demonstrable ways. I also want to improve the general tenor of the company so that sexist or or gay "jokes" will not go unchallenged in the future.

We're a smallish company without an HR director, so I'm kind of on my own here. How does, or should, the punishment fit the crime?

Someone? Anyone?

Signed, ashamed.

Oh the drama. You never said what the remark was in the first place.

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2015, 10:06:53 AM »
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If DU thinks I deserve further excoriation, then bring it.
You can print out the thread and show it to the CEO as proof of atonement for your sins.  I'm sure that will make everything better. :rofl:
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2015, 10:10:50 AM »
I can only imagine what the "offensive" word was.
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2015, 10:12:29 AM »
Poor DUmmy.  Probably something so insignificant, but technically a micro aggression.
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2015, 10:21:24 AM »
What a *****.

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2015, 10:45:49 AM »
What did he say?
Choose 1:

a) "Bless you" (after she sneezed)
b) "All lives matter"
c) "We're in the black for this quarter."
d) "Obama might not be right about X."
e) "I disagree."
f) Saying anything at all
g) Looking in her general direction
h) Existing

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2015, 11:01:30 AM »
What did he say?
Choose 1:

a) "Bless you" (after she sneezed)
b) "All lives matter"
c) "We're in the black for this quarter."
d) "Obama might not be right about X."
e) "I disagree."
f) Saying anything at all
g) Looking in her general direction
h) Existing

I'm gonna say that the above mentioned DUmmie was in the break room trying to decide between the blueberry muffin and the cheese danish and went "Eeenie...meenie...miney...moe" and that's all it took for the aggrieved party to yell "RACIST!!!!"
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2015, 11:17:10 AM »
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8. It was intended to be a jokey compliment

But--I'd appropriated it from African American context, which is a clear no-no.
  :whatever:

Which is worse, the cultural appropriation or the use of the word itself?
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2015, 11:19:09 AM »
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17. Sounds like you are being

Railroaded to me. Sticks and stones and all that. Not saying a reprimand was wrong but it is only human nature to pick up on others speech and accents. If a large portion get away with saying things then it stands to reason those things will get picked up by others. Of course I believe people are waaaay to easily offended.
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23. Who appointed you arbiter of what people should or shouldn't be offended by?

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2015, 11:28:20 AM »
Ya know, maybe if more Progs got the vast over-reaction treatment society might lurch a little toward sanity. Or, at the least, those progs would be too afraid to say anything, a welcome silence.

Offend the perpetually and professionally aggrieved, and you're "branded":

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2015, 12:26:37 PM »
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8. It was intended to be a jokey compliment

But--I'd appropriated it from African American context, which is a clear no-no.

I have $5 on "nigga, please" with that  brushoff hand-wave thing.
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2015, 12:39:48 PM »
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8. It was intended to be a jokey compliment

But--I'd appropriated it from African American context, which is a clear no-no.
Probably said "that was mighty white of you" to the wrong person.
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2015, 01:11:01 PM »
This is like a Catholic confessional. This person wants a "Do two our father's, three hail Mary's,..." type of answer. Good luck with that, nutso.

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2015, 01:12:16 PM »
I have $5 on "nigga, please" with that  brushoff hand-wave thing.
Yes ....  :cheersmate:

... and ...

Probably said "that was mighty white of you" to the wrong person.

Yes ...   :cheersmate:

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2015, 01:34:57 PM »
I have $5 on "nigga, please" with that  brushoff hand-wave thing.


While I would have preferred that one ( :lmao:) it appears "****** rigged" was the offending remark.  http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027288843#post66


What did he say?
Choose 1:

a) "Bless you" (after she sneezed)
b) "All lives matter"
c) "We're in the black for this quarter."
d) "Obama might not be right about X."
e) "I disagree."
f) Saying anything at all
g) Looking in her general direction
h) Existing

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2015, 01:39:53 PM »
Upon being asked if she said "nigga":

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66. That is not what I said.
 
I have never used "nigga" or any of its variations in my life, and I don't expect to start.

I said an asshole thing for a white person to say, even though it's been said about Morgan Freeman and the President, and by people like Spike Lee and Key and Peele, for whom it is presumably OK. I said it because she fixed the printer when nobody else could.

I think you get the idea.

She used the term "afro-engineered"? Really, I got no clue.

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2015, 01:42:16 PM »
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58. I'm taking that you said something like "Nigga Please"

? Correct

Yeah, that was a pretty asshole thing to do.
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66. That is not what I said.

I have never used "nigga" or any of its variations in my life, and I don't expect to start.

I said an asshole thing for a white person to say, even though it's been said about Morgan Freeman and the President, and by people like Spike Lee and Key and Peele, for whom it is presumably OK. I said it because she fixed the printer when nobody else could.

I think you get the idea.

Hmmmmmm. S/h/it keeps hinting but I still have no idea, which says something about me as a conservative. I don't know these things because it would never, ever occur to me to say anything racial, regardless of context.

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
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I said an asshole thing for a white person to say, even though it's been said about ... the President, and by people like Spike Lee...

I said it because she fixed the printer when nobody else could.

Maybe she called her co-worker who fixed the printer the "black Jesus."

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2015, 02:22:01 PM »

While I would have preferred that one ( :lmao:) it appears "****** rigged" was the offending remark.  http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027288843#post66


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Hmm..That was my 2nd choice just before ****** rich.
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2015, 03:27:44 PM »
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21. You could

see if there's an organization in your area that does anti-racisim training, and then take their training, and give a copy of the certificate of completion to your employer to put in your file.
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2015, 03:28:51 PM »
Self-flagellation in the 21st century.

These people are ridiculous.
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2015, 03:34:37 PM »
Somebody gets it . . .
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75. "...for whom it is presumably OK..."

Your claims of contrition are consistently counterbalanced by these snide justifications.

You called somebody a "REDACTED" because they REDACTED. It's not even a correct use of the phrase, which is a literary phrase referring to a stock character in the white imagination. When it is used about Morgan Freeman and President Obama, it's generally being used critically, as a critique of the function of their characters or actions in the white imagination. Ditto the way Spike Lee and Key and Peele use it. They are critiquing a particular representation of blackness in white literary and filmic works.

Your usage of it was just ignorant, and, yes, ridiculously offensive.

Now, I don't know if you should get fired for something like that (probably not, in my view), but you are continuing to justify yourself throughout this thread, including in the OP.

Reasons for redactions: I don't want this coming up on some search and getting you in yet more trouble. You'd be wise to nix this whole thread.
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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2015, 03:35:42 PM »
Hmmm... the plot, like NJCher's puke stew, thickens.

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2015, 04:15:17 PM »
I'm tellin' ya it went something like this:

"Girlfriend, you be miraculously fixin' the printer. You is the black Jesus."

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Re: I made a racially insensitive remark at work
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2015, 04:26:26 PM »
I'm a little late to this party.  Was going to suggest "******-rigged".
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