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Offline Ptarmigan

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There’s a Way to Stop Mass Shootings, and You Won’t Like It.
http://mystudentapt.com/2015/10/06/theres-a-way-to-stop-mass-shootings-and-you-wont-like-it/

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Shootings, and You Won’t Like It.

That’s right. You’re not going to like it because it’s going to require you to do something personally, as opposed to shouting for the government, or anyone to “do something!”

You ready? Here it is:

“Notice those around you who seem isolated, and engage them.”

Not all rampage killers are loners.

Some of the comments are stupid.

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romantic0
 October 12, 2015 at 1:55 pm

tok tok WEAPONS

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Max Riethmuller
 October 12, 2015 at 10:00 pm

Tim, the problem is in Switzerland, you aren’t allowed to keep ammunition at home nor carry it with your weapons. So that invalidates your argument completely.

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Jelly
 October 12, 2015 at 7:55 pm

the author can start with himself – his descriptions of those who are lonely and/or isolated is not very compassionate.

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foshoflo
 October 12, 2015 at 3:23 pm

I think this is a good start to addressing the problem, aka, engaging one another, making people feel that they are a part of a community… but at the same time I feel like the U.S. has been snowballing for some time now into the trend of mass shootings and there are several complicated issues which are intertwined within that problem.
 One of those issues is, in fact, women’s reproductive rights. Now I know some people are going to roll their eyes at this but I would like to point out that in Freakonomics the economist Steven Levitt points out a correlation between the rise of violent crime in the generations following abortion bans.
 When women are subjugated by laws which restrict access to birth control and abortion, more children are born into an economic climate which cannot support them.
 Look, we as Americans have ****ed up by trying to take freedom of choice from women. If a woman does not believe she can support an infant within her own resources and wishes NOT to have that child – it should be her choice! Why is it right to tell her that she must bear a child and then force that child to live in a system that is already unsustainable? It makes NO sense. It’s like putting your finger in a crack in a dam and promising it won’t leak and THEN ordering more water to be dumped into the reservoir; you can’t hold your finger in that crack forever, it is not a sustainable solution.
 Here IS a sustainable solution: SUPPORT ABORTION/ REPRODUCTIVE SERVICES FOR WOMEN IN ALL 50 STATES!
 Stop the problem before it starts! PREVENT children and women from suffering within this broken system and being fed into the assembly line of birth > poverty > violent crime > imprisonment or death by allowing women TO MAKE THEIR OWN REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE DECISIONS!
 Gee, then maybe we would be able to stave off homelessness (because of all those extra people who are NOT being born into economic hardship) as well as diminishing our nation’s carbon footprint, eliminating the extra cost of health care, food, housing, unemployment, etc, should I go on or have I said enough?
 Basically… just make the right policy decisions and you can prevent an entire host of other problems down the line. I really hope legislators are starting to see the benefit of supporting women. When you take freedom of choice from a woman, you are punishing her AND her child. Because you cannot promise that they will have access to a proper education (because our educational policies change every time we get a new president), you cannot promise that they will have food and housing resources (because every time a president wants to reduce the deficit they will first make cuts to welfare programs that support these children and their families AND WILL NOT TAX THE WEALTHY), and the only job opportunities available to them will be at minimum wage pay with no job security or benefits.
 If you are on the fence about what I’m saying or you think I’m full of bullshit, then let me tell you one more thing, won’t take but a moment:
 Between the 1970’s through the 1990’s women’s access to abortion became highly restrictive, allowing only certain types of procedures or not allowing Medicaid to support abortion services at all. So those children born to mothers who would have gotten an abortion otherwise in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s are now a large part of our population. That group includes Generation X, Generation Y, and the Millennials.
 Adam Lanza was 20 years old when he carried out the Sandy Hook shooting.
 Chris Harper-Mercer of the Umpqua shooting was 26. He literally was quoted in his manifesto as saying he had, “No job, no success, no life,” and that he was hated, “since the moment he arrived in this world.”

My point being?
 If a woman does not want to become a mother then there is a hell of a good reason for her making that decision – BECAUSE IT IS HER DECISION. So we should respect that.
 I personally do not want to have kids because I was abused as a child and I don’t feel like I am mentally prepared to support another tiny, helpless person while I am trying to heal from the abuse laid down by my parents. Abuse is a cycle and it is carried from generation to generation. Violence pervades every aspect of American life because we do not see the connection.

Here’s a citation for the info about abortion restrictions starting in the 70’s:
http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/health-info/u-s-abortion-history/
 And a link to a People article for the Chris Harper-Mercer manifesto quote:
http://www.people.com/article/oregon-shooting-chris-harper-mercer-said-he-was-born-bad

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johnboston617
 October 12, 2015 at 4:58 pm

And how do you explain Australia’s success when they banned guns?
 And why use the example that fully automatic guns are already banned, but then say banning anything doesn’t work? Which is it? Why not let people own nukes?

The only way this is gonna change is when guns are outlawed. Everything else is just noise.
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Some of these loners and others that the author says needs to be engaged and befriended, are just the opposite. Some of us just want to be left the hell alone most of the time.