MoHeTo wants to know if rigthtwingpreppers are nutz?

[dutch508]

This is the little DUmpmonkie child who throws a tantrum when threads don't go his way and deleats all his posts.

How long will this one last?

MohRokTah (9,251 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027197659

Preppers. Are they nuts?


For the most part, most people who call themselves "Preppers" are, in fact, nuts.

Now, preparing for natural disasters and potential epidemics is not nuts. Every home should have three days of food and water prepared for emergency. You should have an evacuation plan should a natural disaster occur. My wife and I keep pet food, pet carriers, water, and camping food prepared for such emergencies because you never know when a storm or other natural disaster will cut you off to outside supplies. Everybody should do this as it makes sense.

Preparing for the Zombie Apocalypse, massive Electromagnetic Pulses bringing down electrical infrastructure forever, or total global financial collapse resulting in global anarchy are the nutburger areas of prepping that can be wholly dismissed, but following FEMA and CDC guidelines for natural disasters and epidemics is just common sense.

I apologize to those who make a living bilking people out of cash for prepping supplies in advance. You'll notice that right now, they are mostly rightwingnuts. Should the rightwing take over government, I believe the philosophy pushed by the prepper nutter-parasites will move over to the leftwing (similar to how blackbox voting scammers moved from leftwing philosophies to rightwing philosophies after Obama was elected). The big deal for these parasites is they won't make as much cash from gun sales if the rightwing takes over as there is no pushing the "they cummin fer da gunz!" crap when the rightwing is in charge.

FEMA camp CT were think while Reagan, Bush sr. and jr. were in the White House. Same when slick Willie was there. Doubt it's gonna change when Trump sits behind the desk.

Kang Colby (135 posts)
1. What's your point? I agree that having several gallons of water and a few days worth of non perishables on hand makes sense. Having a flash light and suitable batteries is also a good idea.

right wingers bad.

MohRokTah (9,251 posts)
21. The point is, stockpiling three years worth of food...

Massive arsenals of guns and ammunition with a "bug out" plan so elaborate it looks like the pentagon planned it is just plain nuts.

Keeping a few days of emergency food and water is sane and doesn't really fall under what is currently termed "prepping".

ah... there we go.

bigwillq (66,890 posts)
5. I'm a prepper. If you think I am nuts, fine.

I have all types of supplies in my house and car in case any situation arises.
I have water, food, first aid supplies, cash, batteries, flashlights, utility knives, etc. stashed.
A friend called me MacGuyver once. He said I was always prepared for anything.

I'd rather be prepared than not.

I'm not waiting for a zombie apocalypse or anything, but we've had hurricanes, severe thunderstorms, blizzards here in CT and I've gotten some good use out of the supplies I have stashed.

Oh... if you are a leftist you can't be a prepper.

jmowreader (30,826 posts)
8. You're not a prepper. You're just a smart person.

A prepper is someone who's "preparing" for the total and irrevocable collapse of society.

 

linuxman (750 posts)
6. Why do you care to what extent people prepare for shit circumstances?

A month of food, water, batteries, etc is a good idea for everyone. If you roate stock, then all youre doing is consuming normal groceries with a more longterm replenishment interval. A reserve of cash, a gun, a generator, and some boardgames aren't a bad idea either. For me, things viewed as prepper materials are just normal items that are in use in my daily life anyway. I don't care if someone thinks zombies are coming for them, as the supplies people would have on hand for their make believe scenario are more or less the same which would be beneficial for a natural disaster. When a winter storm advisory is issued, everyone in the area becomes a prepper. The only difference is that some aren't driving through an ice storm to punch some lady in the face for Walmart's last jug of milk

lumberjack_jeff (30,701 posts)
7. If you have a "bug-out bag" (or vehicle) for "SHTF scenario"

And your long term survival plan involves hunting for food, then yes, you're nuts.

That said, I have a garden, a well, a 10kw welder/generator, lots of canned foods, tools and repair materials, and enough fuel to last for the period of a normal (think earthquake) emergency.

On the sister site, I read a post suggesting that "liberals are an unfortunate consequence of civilization" (the premise is that liberals in zombie movies don't know how to cope  )

The truth is the opposite. Civilization is a consequence of liberals. Without the civilizing influence of liberals, people would immediately descend into anarchy run by warlords. They're preppers because they can't understand why life is any other way.

jrandom421 (649 posts)
12. After living through

earthquakes, fires, floods, mud slides, blizzards, riots, being cut off from civilization in each and every one of them for various periods of up to 6-10 weeks, I would say no, they aren't nuts.

We've stockpiled shelter, food, water, medical supplies, pet supplies, and have amassed enough tents, stoves, water purification equipment, heaters (both air and water), generators, fuel to last us a year on our own, if necessary.

Having lived through a series of disasters that have left others begging us for help, I think this is just prudent contingency planning. Anything less would have left us at the mercy of the elements before any help would have reached us.

My wife knows, since she's a former Red Cross/FEMA shelter manager and retired paramedic, and knows that we can't count on help reaching us quickly.

Hoyt (21,245 posts)
16. If they are arming up, prepared to shoot others over food, they're sick.

Our favorite gun grabber Hoyt KNOWS why they are buying guns!

Lee-Lee (2,276 posts)
23. When I was a deputy the Sheriff required us to have 30 days food, water and medicine for every

Member of our household and immediate family (parents/kids) who loves lived in the county, and he provided cases of MREs for that.

His philosophy was that if there was any sort of disaster he wanted us to be able to go out and do our job for the community without worrying if our families were having basic needs met.

I'll admit, having that reserve gave me piece of mind and I have kept more or less the same kind of stick around but mostly canned goods and stuff I have canned. I also have the same at my dads house, with him in his 70's now that piece of mind that if something happens he has what he needs until I can get to him is worth it.

I also keep a basic emergency kit in my car- food, water, sleeping bag, etc and think everyone should.

I know some end of the world survivalist preppers who I think are nuts, but I also know a lot of homesteader type preppers who consider themselves preppers but are more of a "back to the land" homesteader type- one of them is going with me next month to look at the land around the house I own and plan to retire to do e can help me design a permaculture setup to raise a lot of my own food, and I will start planting it in the spring so that in 5-10 years it's mature and producing for me.

MohRokTah (9,251 posts)
25. Your Sheriff was NOT a Prepper Nutter.

He didn't force you to stockpile 3 years of food and water as well as an arsenal greater than the local National Guard Armory. He made a sensible requirement.

 

MohRokTah (9,251 posts)
26. I saw a Prepper show once where this devoutly Christian man and woman who

did not believe in drinking alcohol went to their local Sam's Club and stocked up on booze.

They kept shelf after shelf of booze stockpiled in their cellar and they didn't believe in drinking.

When the apocalypse came their plan was to use it for fuel and bartering.

Not a bad plan, really. MoStinkOh doesn't like it because they were Christians.

[USA4ME]

So there's a natural disaster and/or a potential epidemic and someone has supplies, among them an arsenal of weapons. What the worst that could happen, they shoot a bunch of liberals?

Meh.

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[hillneck]

Typical liberal/DUmmieland responses thinking a government entity is going to be there for you if something like that happens.  Self-reliance is a nasty way of thinking to these idiots.  These little moochers would be the first ones demanding your stuff if a incident happened.

[txradioguy]

DUmmies would rather loot from stores when a catastrophe happens than take the time to be prepared to rely on your own resources.

[Carl]

I think some of the most obsessed preppers on the TV show border on the loony but whatever I guess,their lives and not bothering me.

Seems like kind of an odd thread at the DUmp though given that they are the craziest of the doomsday lot when it comes to gloBULL warming.

[obumazombie]

I think some of the most obsessed preppers on the TV show border on the loony but whatever I guess,their lives and not bothering me.

Seems like kind of an odd thread at the DUmp though given that they are the craziest of the doomsday lot when it comes to gloBULL warming.

Yeah.
You're right.
I don't see any of the libs doomsday prepping for the inevitable consequences of "glow bull warming".
What I do see is the most high profile salesmen for the great glow bull warming swindle having the largest carbon footprints.
And by largest I mean 10 times or more larger than the average proletariats.

[Big Dog]

Memo to the Grasshopper DUmmies: **** you. Starve.

Memo to the (very small number of) Ant DUmmies: Don't be fooled. Your Grasshopper brothers and sisters are taking notes of who has full pantries, and they will show up on your doorstep someday. **** them. Let them starve.

[obumazombie]

Mojito(MoHeTo) is jodido.

[DumbAss Tanker]

They are actually all over the map politically.  Some are hard-over Christian, some are Pagan, some don't care about religion at all, some are small-L libertarian, some are conservative, some are hippy-dippy types.  It's a pretty mixed bunch.  The one thing they have in common is they don't think government is absolutely dependable or trustworthy where their own personal bacon is concerned, and they choose to prepare in depth for government failure of varying duration and from varying causes. 

'Zombie apocalypse' is pretty much a euphemism for the hordes of starving, desperate urbanites raiding and plundering to sustain themselves when and if government completely fails.  A small percentage of the preppers even want to BE the gang of armed thugs that takes over after that phase, while most of the rest simply want to protect themselves from the zombies and the eventual armed re-assertion of control over them. 

[GOBUCKS]

I think today's "preppers" evolved from the Y2K survival TEOTWAWKI nuts.

When you have a ton of rice and a thousand pounds of dried beans, and your apocalypse fails to arrive, whattaya gonna do?

You have to either admit you were a weirdo like the Heaven's Gate boys, or make up some new apocalypse to explain your strange behavior.

[BlueStateSaint]

I think today's "preppers" evolved from the Y2K survival TEOTWAWKI nuts.

When you have a ton of rice and a thousand pounds of dried beans, and your apocalypse fails to arrive, whattaya gonna do?

You have to either admit you were a weirdo like the Heaven's Gate boys, or make up some new apocalypse to explain your strange behavior.

Or, you can do what I suspect a lot of them did, and eat all of the food without having to buy new food.  Thus, saving some money on food later on.

[FlaGator]

On one hand some preppers are nuts but most are just cautious people who want to guarantee that their families survive in the event something terrible happens. There is nothing nutty about that. There is also nothing nutty about having guns and ammo around to protect your stuff should looting and theft become rampant in the wake of some large scale catastrophe. What is nuts is for the grasshopper to make fun of the ant. We all know how that turned out for the ant.

[67 Rover]

On one hand some preppers are nuts but most are just cautious people who want to guarantee that their families survive in the event something terrible happens. There is nothing nutty about that. There is also nothing nutty about having guns and ammo around to protect your stuff should looting and theft become rampant in the wake of some large scale catastrophe. What is nuts is for the grasshopper to make fun of the ant. We all know how that turned out for the ant.

It's cheap insurance and provides for peace of mind.

[Fourwinds]

I tend to think I'm a bit of a prepper primarily because I grew up in a hurricane zone.  So I can and preserve food, I have a stockpile of dehydrated food ,means to purify water when my gallons run out and some weapons with ammo.

It doesn't mean I'm nuts. People who prepare for the worst are rarely taken by surprise. If a disaster happens, sure I can evacuate but what if something prevents me from doing so? Should I rely on people going through their own problems and add to their situation? Guns and ammo? In a natural disaster such as Katrina we saw people willing to stay behind and raid whatever they could get their hands on. What if they are willing to take my food and water and have no problem killing me on the way out the door because they can? I should just accept my fate and die?

I know a few others in the area who prep and they aren't crazy.  They are people like me who didn't prepare the first time during an emergency and went hungry and had to hope for some means of survival from a government who sometimes couldn't help them due to the scale of the emergency. Why wait in line for something you already have due to a little foresight.

[catsmtrods]

Guilty as charged. total fruitcake. Bring it.

[Boudicca]

Wow, being prepared is nutz?  MoHeTo is probably prepared too, only he has stockpiled loads of prescription (not his though) opiates, weed, bennies and whatever else floats his boat so as to medicate his pain away come the worst day scenario.  Too bad his sober and truly prepared prepper neighbor will have spent his hard earned cash on, among other items, some weapons and ammo.  But, hey, that kind of stockpile will not excite the same sort of attention that MoHeTo's druggie stash will, and by the time they fight it out and the last asshole wins, it's overdose time and no law abiding citizens to give a rat's ass when the druggie codes out.

[Ptarmigan]

Better to be over prepared than under prepared.