This will be a hard one at the DUmp. Anti-gun freaks swear a gun has never stopped a crime if it has been used by a private citizen. Anti-gunners run the only pro-gun forum at DU so I see this one being flushed to the Dungeon quickly.
sarisataka (5,618 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141212972
Customer shoots bank robber in Warren
Source: Local 4 - ClickOnDetroit
WARREN, Mich. -
A man who was robbing a Citizens Bank near 9 Mile and Van Dyke roads on Monday was shot by a customer at the bank.
Police found two guns at the scene. The bank is at the corner of Van Dyke Road and Timken Avenue, which is a few blocks north of 9 Mile Road.
The robber initially fled the bank on foot but was found lying on the ground bleeding. He was taken to the hospital with a gunshot wound.
No other injuries have been reported.
Local 4 has learned the robber walked into the bank and announced a hold-up. He received money from a teller and then pointed the gun at the customer, who shot him. He shot him in both arms and the leg
Read more: http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/customer-shoots-bank-robber-in-warren/35398190
Star Member onehandle (45,611 posts)
2. Probably would have just taken the money and left.
The customer should be cited for public endangerment.
Meanwhile guns kill 15,000+ teens a year in the U.S...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141212977
Yup.
GGJohn (5,661 posts)
18. Lolololol!!!!
You're funny.
You just can't stand the thought that a law abiding citizen used their legally carried weapon to stop what could have been a deadly situation.
also, yup.
Hoyt (21,244 posts)
37. +1. Not long ago a cowboy shot a store clerk trying to save his own ass during a robbery that probably would have ended with no one injured. In this bank case, lucky robber didn't kill someone when the ignorant cowboy started shooting.
Star Member Hoyt (21,244 posts)
46. So, he didn't shoot. Stupid cowboy did, endangering others.
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Fact robber didn't shoot at any time, shows he had no intention to. Probably bought his gun off some law-abiding collector - with more guns than he could fondle - with no background check.
Hoyt spams the pro-gun forum with anti-gun shit every day. Pro-gunners are banned from the Anti-gun forum on DU, btw.
GGJohn (5,662 posts)
137. So, now, self defense is a republican thing?
Hell, I thought it was a human thing.
Guess I was wrong according to rockfordfile
Hoyt (21,244 posts)
106. You strap a gun on to go to Chuck E Cheese, thinking you probably won't shoot an innocent kid,
no... there isn't anything else. that's all he posted.
Hoyt (21,244 posts)
107. Yeah I have know gun fanciers who consider it a defensive use to flash their gun at a Black
kid approaching on the sidewalk. No real threat other than the fear most gun toters have.
yeah, sure...
BarstowCowboy (110 posts)
4. Here's a question
If this average citizen was able to shoot this alleged robber in the arms and the legs, why can't A well trained police officer accomplish the same task?
A: Because we don't shoot to wound.
nichomachus (11,443 posts)
12. Oh goody. A wild west shootout in a bank
Filled with other customers and employees. Why what could go wrong? Could have turned into a bloodbath with others killed and wounded. It didn't this time, but it could have.
It's only money. Let them take it.
jmowreader (30,825 posts)
24. They let guns in banks in Michigan?
sofa king (9,323 posts)
51. Yeah, where is it legal to take a gun into a bank?
Shouldn't this really be a story about two law-breakers cancelling themselves out and both winding up in the clink for STARTING A ****ING GUNFIGHT IN PUBLIC?
Star Member marble falls (7,699 posts)
49. Armed customers breaking up bank robberies is a bad, bad idea and an NRA wet dream.
Oh, well if it makes the NRA look good we must do something to stop it!
mac2766 (29 posts)
69. I understand <---- No you don't.
You support the action taken by what could easily be an untrained gunman in the situation. An action that could easily have been disastrous.
There is no argument that can be made by me or anyone else against a person who defends themselves in a life-threatening situation. What really needs to be considered is not the outcome, but the implication of the action taken by the shooter. If discharging a weapon in a building endangers the lives of innocent people, should the gun have been discharged? My position is no. Should one individual endanger the lives of one or more individuals to protect himself? My position is no. If I am threatened, I will protect myself, but I will not endanger the lives of others in doing so.
And as for the nit... vigilante / not a vigilante. We can agree to disagree. My opinion is that this was an act of vigilante justice carried out by a very reckless individual.
I strongly support the 2nd amendment. The right to keep and bear arms should remain a right... but... on the same note, we as American citizens should also have the right to protect ourselves against those who shouldn't posses a gun. There needs to be a balance between insanity and freedom. I live between two very different types of people. On one side of me is a highly trained ex-navy weapons expert. On the other side, a mentally unbalanced red-neck. Both have guns, as is their right. Which would I feel more comfortable being around when they are brandishing their weapons? Take a guess. There needs to be regulation. If you brandish a weapon, it should be a requirement that you have the mental capacity to understand the consequences of actions taken by you with that weapon. I was trained as a young man by the Indiana Hunters Association, by a friends father who happened to be a Deputy Sheriff, and by the US Military. I have yet to brandish a weapon in a public place, and would never carry one in a public place. That act alone could get a person shot.
what an idiot.
YabaDabaNoDinoNo (191 posts)
56. In one of the next robberies all the customers will be shot by the robbers, thanks NRA!
Watch and see
also an idiot.
Hoyt (21,244 posts)
77. Good point. My belief is that the more fools that carry guns, the more robbers will shoot first and not risk some gun toting fool playing cowboy.
leftyladyfrommo (8,352 posts)
89. It's against the law to carry any weapon
Into a bank. I think it's a felony. If a teller spotted a weapon she would hit the silent alarm and you would walk out of the bank into a swat team.
Teller'S get guns pointed at them. They are trained on exactly what to do.
Most bNk robbers come in wearing a baseball cap, dark glasses and are carrying a bag. Tellers hit the cameras the minute they see anyone looking suspicious .
They have bait money they give out. After so many minutes it exploads. They are full of dye that won't wash off.
People need to let the bank employees do what they are trained to do.
Hoyt (21,244 posts)
93. +1. Unfortunately, too many gunners aren't going to pass up an "opportunity" to play cowboy and shoot someone.
Hoyt (21,244 posts)
97. I hear you. zimmerman was well trained too, especially on what lies to tell police.
Being trained to shoot, and what to say, is not what they need to be trained in. Leaving their guns at home is the message they need to understand.
onehandle (45,611 posts)
109. So he was leaving and the brave, brave gun 'hero' went for it.
I'm convinced. Everyone should be armed to the teeth 24/7!
Anyone who thinks this helps the gun fetishist's argument doesn't get that no news is good news when it comes to guns.
Tick tock, gun nuts. The tipping point approacheth.
LisaL (26,126 posts)
146. And the robber already had a second degree murder conviction on the record. So if he was pointing a gun at someone, I presume he meant business.
As always the truth doesn't really matter to leftists.
Hoyt (21,244 posts)
84. I don't think it takes "guts" to carry a gun on city streets, just the opposite. Besides, it is my experience that the majority of gun toters are callous, right wing racists, and many are militia types.
GGJohn (5,662 posts)
152. Just more nonsense from you.
BTW, are you aware that this POS already had a conviction for 2nd degree Murder?
So it's entirely conceivable that the ARMED robber was going to shoot the customer, but you don't care, because, GUNS!!!
Hoyt (21,244 posts)
162. Some of us don't need a gun, sorry you feel you do.
BUT- you, Hoyt, want to take everyone's guns away from them because you don't like them.
Hoyt (21,244 posts)
172. Are you going to vote for a Republican because of your love if gunz?
In my experience, anyone who would vote for greedy, racist, warmongering Republicans to protect their guns, is not likely a Democrat
Maedhros (7,481 posts)
126. Not self defense - the robber was fleeing. Nobody needed to get shot.
rockfordfile (45 posts)
124. Something's odd about this story
Star Member Kennah (7,762 posts)
190. I'm told that's the most painful place to be shot n/t
Where? In teh bank?
