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Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« on: September 19, 2015, 06:50:29 AM »
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Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock (and it might have been a bomb hoax)


Were the knee jerk reactions defending him any more correct than the actions of teachers and the police?

Reverse Engineering Ahmed Mohamed’s Clock… and Ourselves.

I found the highest resolution photograph of the clock I could. Instantly, I was disappointed. Somewhere in all of this – there has indeed been a hoax. Ahmed Mohamed didn’t invent his own alarm clock. He didn’t even build a clock. Now, before I go on and get accused of attacking a 14 year old kid who’s already been through enough, let me explain my purpose. I don’t want to just dissect the clock. I want to dissect our reaction as a society to the situation. Part of that is the knee-jerk responses we’re all so quick to make without facts. So, before you scroll down and leave me angry comments, please continue to the end (or not – prove my point, and miss the point, entirely!)

(engineer describes exactly what Ahmed Mohamed did - read full article for details)

So there you have it folks, Ahmed Mohamad did not invent, nor build a clock. He took apart an existing clock, and transplanted the guts into a pencil box, and claimed it was his own creation. It all seems really fishy to me.

I refer back again to this YouTube video interview with Ahmed. He explains that he closed up the box with a piece of cord because he didn’t want it to look suspicious. I’m curious, why would “looking suspicious” have even crossed his mind before this whole event unfolded, if he was truly showing off a hobby project, something so innocuous as an alarm clock. Why did he choose a pencil box, one that looks like a miniature briefcase no less, as an enclosure for a clock? It’s awful hard to see the clock with the case closed. On the other hand, with the case open, it’s awful dangerous to have an exposed power transformer sitting near the snooze button (unless, perhaps his invention was to stop serial-snooze-button pressers by giving them a dangerous electrical shock!)

So again, I’m pointing all this out – about the specifics of the clock – not to pick on the poor kid. I’m picking on us, our culture, and our media. I don’t even care about the clock itself at this point.

If we stop and think – was it really such a ridiculous reaction from the teacher and the police in the first place? How many school shootings and incidents of violence have we had, where we hear afterwards “this could have been prevented, if only we paid more attention to the signs!” Teachers are taught to be suspicious and vigilant. Ahmed wasn’t accused of making a bomb – he was accused of making a look-alike, a hoax. And be honest with yourself, a big red digital display with a bunch of loose wires in a brief-case looking box is awful like a Hollywood-style representation of a bomb. Everyone jumped to play the race and religion cards and try and paint the teachers and police as idiots and bigots, but in my mind, they were probably acting responsibly and erring on the side of caution to protect the rest of their students, just in case. “This wouldn’t have happened if Ahmed were white,” they say. We’re supposed to be sensitive to school violence, but apparently religious and racial sensitivity trumps that. At least we have another clue about how the sensitivity and moral outrage pecking order lies.

Because, is it possible, that maybe, just maybe, this was actually a hoax bomb? A silly prank that was taken the wrong way? That the media then ran with, and everyone else got carried away? Maybe there wasn’t even any racial or religious bias on the parts of the teachers and police.


Sometimes when we rush to judgment, even if our intentions are good, we end up being wrong.

full article: http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/

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2. Thanks for posting this.

I needed to add somebody to my ignore list.

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35. So what?

So maybe he disassembled an alarm clock and remounted it in a case? What is the point of a grown man writing a long blog to bust the bubble of a 9th grade kid? How friggin petty and low is that? What is the (anonymous) writer's point in attacking a 14 year old kid? Holy crap. What a low life.

Attack the truth when it is different than your narrative.

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5. Somebody seems to be reaching hard to blame the victim

Buying this isn't rushing to judgment?

Of course the boy is the real victim...

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8. Utter nonsense. Attributing deep logical thunking skills to a 14 year old..and reverse engineering is still engineering. And using clipped quotes....does anyone doubt the sincerity of Ahmned after seeing the press conferences? Really??

Sorry, I read all the way through and consider the opinion and speculation without evidence and is indeed utter nonsense; semi-clever victim blaming as Muskim-bashing and inexplicable fear runs rampant, double in Texas.....the unknown blogger forgot to mention that.

Imaginative speculation is just that
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there are many 14 year olds blowing themselves up in the Middle East right now, Fred.

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53. No, I suggest that as fully grown adults

we not make it our personal mission to crusade against a 14-year kid who we don't know, who was handcuffed and taken to the police station for trying to show off his hobby to his teachers at school. This is getting more repulsive to me the longer it continues.

What's your end game? You want to lead public pressure to force this kid to admit that his use of the word "invented" was a "lie"? Is that what you're after? Would that bring you satisfaction?

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9. If he made it out intentionally as a hoax bomb...

Then why wasn't the school evacuated when it was called in? Evacuating the school is a standard response to a bomb threat, so why - if the clock was intentionally made to look like a hoax bomb - didn't the school administrators or police call for the school to be evacuated?

This is the main question - If the school adminstators and police thought it was a bomb, why were they so willing to put every single child at the school at risk by not evacuating the building?

You know why they didn't call for a evacuation as is standard for bomb threats? Because they knew it wasn't. The administrators knew it wasn't a bomb. The police knew it wasn't a bomb. Both knew it wasn't a threat, which is why they didn't evacuate the school as is standard.

We don't know all the answers yet. That doesn't stop teh DUmp monkiez from flinging poo.

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12. Ya know what an essential component of a fake bomb is?

Fake explosives. Where were the fake explosives?

There were none. Even if he just disassebled a clock and remounted the components, how in the world does that constitute a fake bomb?

And yeah, I'm an engineer.

Which is no doubt why he wasn't charged with making a fake bomb.

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52. What a STEAMING ****ING PILE this post is

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56. I see the bigots have found a way to rationalize white privilege.

Funny thing, people like the dumbass school admins and cops never find themselves wrong and are always the butt of jokes for being stupid in the first place.

But you go on with this bullshit rwing stuff, I really don't care - it was a digital clock.

Whaaa....

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2015, 08:14:20 AM »
Wonder how many practice runs the 9/11 terrorist made before pulling 9/11 off?
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2015, 08:24:48 AM »
I wonder if young Ahmed will have his box searched by the Secret Service before he meets the president. Will that be shown on TV?  No, somehow I don't think it will be.

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2015, 08:29:13 AM »
I wonder if young Ahmed will have his box searched by the Secret Service before he meets the president. Will that be shown on TV?  No, somehow I don't think it will be.

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Wonder if someone will stick a finger up his ass to see if he has one of those Muslim rectal bombs. Talk about blowing some shit away.
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2015, 11:29:06 AM »
The little bastard knew exactly what he was doing.

The next little muzzie who brings a real bomb to school won't be challenged, for fear of ridicule if it's another trial run.

It's just like police officers now being afraid to shoot 0bamaite savages until it's too late.

It was predictable that the jug-eared Kenyan would invite him to the White House.

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2015, 11:48:08 AM »
The little bastard knew exactly what he was doing.

H5.  Spot on.

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2015, 12:30:39 PM »
I took the time to read the blog that the now-deleted post referred to. It seems to be correct.

This clock is simply an '80s era digital alarm clock uncased in its entirety and put into another box. I believe it was intended as a prop/hoax "bomb" without any real malice intended. As the kid said - all it is, is a clock. Which is factually correct.

The kid just didn't think his project through beforehand - as a kid his age is unlikely to do.

He got in trouble for it, as zero-tolerance policy dictates he must. - But since he is a young Muslim living in Texas, it got reworked by the media as some sort of hate-crime.

One doesn't bring a weapon - real or imagined - into a public school in our politically correct world.

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2015, 01:29:07 PM »
The little man pulled a BantheGOP trolling feat, but in reverse. Brilliantly, I might add.
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2015, 04:47:23 PM »
OBAMA’S NEW POSTERBOY FOR MUSLIM PERSECUTION Is Son Of Prominent Muslim Activist, Now Admits He Knew Briefcase Would Be Viewed As “Suspicious” [VIDEO]
http://100percentfedup.com/obamas-new-posterboy-for-muslim-persecution-is-son-of-prominent-muslim-activist-now-admits-he-knew-briefcase-would-be-viewed-as-suspicious-video/

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For anyone who cares to do the research, there is always more to Obama’s unyielding public support of a person who is held up as a victim. Every move is carefully calculated, orchestrated and implemented by the master Community Organizer In Chief…

As many people thoroughly anticipated the back-story to the 14-year-old briefcase clockmaker reflects his father is actually a rather controversial Muslim activist. This lends further credence toward a reasonable belief that his taking a briefcase clock to school was not as innocent as the media would lead everyone to believe.

Not surprised.
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2015, 07:31:53 PM »
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8. Utter nonsense. Attributing deep logical thunking skills to a 14 year old.

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2015, 07:56:26 PM »
OBAMA’S NEW POSTERBOY FOR MUSLIM PERSECUTION Is Son Of Prominent Muslim Activist, Now Admits He Knew Briefcase Would Be Viewed As “Suspicious” [VIDEO]
http://100percentfedup.com/obamas-new-posterboy-for-muslim-persecution-is-son-of-prominent-muslim-activist-now-admits-he-knew-briefcase-would-be-viewed-as-suspicious-video/

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2015, 12:49:28 AM »
He looked really upset moments after the "arrest."


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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2015, 01:35:10 PM »
The Manson family during Charlie's trial had those same bird eating grins on their faces.
Nowadays, they cry rivers in attempts to plead mercy to parole meetings.
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2015, 02:03:14 PM »
Most of the commenters are overlooking the basic fact of just how seriously most schools take anything that might be considered a potential safety risk.
When I was in middle and high school in the mid- late 90s and very early 2000s, anyone caught bringing in something to school that could even remotely be seen as possibly resembling a bomb or other weapon would be in VERY deep doo- doo. With all the recent incidents like Virginia Tech and Sandy Hook, such concerns and precautions have been rightfully amplified tenfold.

btw, I noticed in the website Ptarmigan linked to that the kid's father is apparently named Mohamed Mohamed. Radical Muslims generally aren't known for their creativity, other than in finding new ways to kill infidels.

The little bastard knew exactly what he was doing.

The next little muzzie who brings a real bomb to school won't be challenged, for fear of ridicule if it's another trial run.

It's just like police officers now being afraid to shoot 0bamaite savages until it's too late.

It was predictable that the jug-eared Kenyan would invite him to the White House.

1. That's what I'm thinking might have been the case. It's kind of like the "Flying Sheiks" on that airliner some years ago.
2. Obama actually invited him to the White House? That's both shocking and predictable at the same time. He'll probably give the little nutjob a medal.
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2015, 02:14:17 PM »
Has the little future jihadi taken to buggering goats yet or is he still banging is sister through her burka?

This debacle has setup written all over it.

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Irving mayor: Full story not out in clock incident
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2015, 11:11:23 PM »
Irving mayor: Full story not out in clock incident
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/dallas-county/2015/09/22/irving-mayor-full-story-not-out-in-clock-incident/72647922/

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IRVING – Irving Mayor Beth Van Duyne appeared with TV host Glenn Beck Tuesday to discuss whether 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed intentionally caused a scare at his school as part of a larger Islamist plot.

Jim Hanson of the conservative Center for Security Policy supported Beck's theory about why the teen brought a homemade clock to Irving MacArthur High School. Van Duyne said Ahmed's  family should let the school release all information about the incident.

"This is one side of the story," she said, "but the other side of the story is not coming out."

I knew this was one sided. Irving Mayor Beth Van Duyne has spoken out. About time she did.

Teachers and police are getting death threats. No doubt from leftists who like mob and dox people.

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The mayor said teachers and police are getting death threats. Irving ISD spokeswoman Leslie Weaver confirmed that some troubling communications have been turned over to police. A police spokesman said the department is also receiving some comments that are strong enough to document.
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2015, 12:17:26 AM »
What a pack of assholes.

You know, sometimes I wish they would get what they seem to want. Muslims everywhere in their neighborhoods, packs of racist trigger happy cops. If anything just to give them a first hand account of what they're asking for. If anything it would thin those pricks out a little.
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2015, 04:47:09 AM »
Muslim kid brings a "clock" to school that looks like a bomb and gets sent home Liberals rush to his defense and cry racism and xenophobia against those that suspended him.  He gets a free trip to the White House to meet the President.

White kid wears a shirt with a Rebel Flag on it or a kid breaks off his pop tart to look like a gun Liberals are like 'OH MY GOD!!!!  SUSPEND HIM EXPEL HIM!!! HE MuST NOT BRING SUCH VIOLENT IMAGES TO SCHOOL AND FRIGHTEN PEOPLE!!!!  TOSS HIS PARENTS IN JAIL FOR ALLOWING THIS!!!"

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Before Ahmed’s fame: fantastic inventions and a fight with authority
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2015, 11:06:12 PM »
Before Ahmed’s fame: fantastic inventions and a fight with authority
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150926-before-ahmeds-fame-fantastic-inventions-and-a-fight-with-authority.ece

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If you want to know Ahmed Mohamed — not the hoax bomb suspect or the vindicated celebrity, but the motormouth kid with a schoolbag full of inventions and a head full of questions — ask a teacher.

Ask at Sam Houston Middle School, where the boy from Sudan mastered electronics and English, once built a remote control to prank the classroom projector and bragged of reciting his First Amendment rights in the principal’s office.

It’s also the school where Ahmed racked up weeks of suspensions, became convinced an administrator had it in for him and — before he left for the high school where he turned famous — prompted Irving ISD to review claims of anti-Muslim bullying.

Ahmed Mohamed has a history of being in trouble. Sounds the narrative of him being innocent is crumbling.
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2015, 11:09:41 PM »
Florida Teen Arrested for Science Experiment Never Offered Same Support as Ahmed Mohamed
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On April 23, 2013, Kiera Wilmot conducted a volcano experiment in her Polk County high-school hallway. The 16-year-old junior, who was working on the project for her science class, watched as a lid popped off and smoke seeped out. No one was hurt and no property was damaged in the experiment.

But Wilmot's project came just eight days after the Boston Marathon bombing, and school officials sternly led her into the principal’s office. She was told she had made a bomb and was handcuffed and escorted to a juvenile detention center. She was charged with two felonies: possession of a weapon on school property and discharging a destructive device.

“I remember I was in shock and just started crying,” Wilmot recalls. “I was called a terrorist, and people tell me that I’m on the no-fly list even to this day.”

Kiera Wilmot is a Black girl and she did not get invited to the White House.
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2015, 03:14:30 AM »
Florida Teen Arrested for Science Experiment Never Offered Same Support as Ahmed Mohamed
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/florida-teen-arrested-for-science-experiment-never-offered-same-support-as-ahmed-mohamed-7931217

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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2015, 11:09:52 AM »
Again with the libs and the owebumaManiaMedia jumping to the support of our mortal enemies and putting them before the best interests of their fellow countrymen.



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That Ahmed the clock boy is such a genius!
Why, on his own he put together an intricate clock displaying a great deal of electronic knowledge.

Yet for his effort he was accused of bringing a suspicious object to school and was arrested.
Fortunately, after enlightened members of the MSM hailed the genius of young Ahmed Mohamed, he got himself an invite to the White House and Google too!

Unfortunately for the narrative of much of the media, this tale has begun falling apart upon just a bit of scrutiny.
One result is the expected "Hitler" parody you will see below.

In addition, we have a couple of videos from electronics expert Thomas Talbot telling us first why the Ahmed clock story is false as well as the likely agenda for perpetrating this fairy tale.
But first let us go deep into the Fuhrerbunker to watch the reaction to the discovery that Ahmed the clock boy is a fraud. 



The Federalist goes where most of the media dares not tread with this observation about the "creation" of the clock by Ahmed Mohamed:



From the beginning we’ve been told that Ahmed
—a supposedly creative, clever, inventive young man
—threw the clock together from parts in his bedroom in order to “impress” his teachers at school.

Ahmed told Chris Hayes he put it together himself.
He told the Dallas Morning News that he “made a clock,” elsewhere claimed “I’m the person who built a clock and got in trouble with it,” and claimed that the clock was “[his] invention.”

As it turns out, it’s almost certain he did no such thing.
All the evidence points toward the conclusion that Ahmed didn’t build his clock at all, and instead just took apart an old digital clock and put the guts inside a pencil case.

If this is true—and it almost certainly is—why did he claim he “built” such a device?




There are 3 videos to accompany this article.
One video is the inspiration for the title of the article, and is a parody video.

The last video is an explanation by Talbot of what the most likely underlying agenda is.



full article...



http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2015/09/25/hitler-finds-out-ahmed-clock-boy-fraud#sthash.88W5aCQ1.dpuf
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Re: Ahmed Mohamed did not make a clock
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2015, 04:36:24 PM »
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Ahmed’s High School Receives Bomb Threat

A bomb threat was called into MacArthur High School this morning, prompting an immediate evacuation at the same Irving, Texas, high school where freshman Ahmed Mohamed brought in a homemade clock-in-a-box on Sept. 14 that school officials deemed a “hoax bomb.”

Under the Texas Safe Schools Act of 1995 and state’s education code, Irving ISD officials acted in response to today’s bomb threat no differently than they reacted to Mohamed’s confusing-looking clock. The boy continues to espouse himself a target because of his Muslim faith, although Breitbart Texas reported that zero tolerance policies, not racism or Islamophobia, were behind his arrest.
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