Jamastiene (35,684 posts)
18. It might be another Waco, but if the government continues to not enforce
the laws, they will continue to be more and more emboldened and continue to keep the laws from being enforceable. If the feds cannot or will not help, locals will be less likely to bother following the laws. Why even have a country or laws if the feds won't enforce them. I wouldn't care if it did turn into another Waco. Koresh caused that shit to happen, not the feds. Why people see that Waco bunch as some kind of heroes or martyrs is beyond me. Koresh was a child molester of at least one child, his sister in law, and possibly more. If he hadn't stockpile so much explosive shit and had his little standoff with the feds, his whole cult would still be alive. He caused that, not the government.
Of course, the RWNJs see it different, but it is long overdue that they learn they need to follow the laws like the rest of us. What I would not give for a tough liberal administration that doesn't take shit from right wingers for fear of not being liked by them. Who ****ing cares if they like us? They need to follow the law and quit obstructing justice and causing problems. They will continue to do it as long as they know they can get away with it. Make an example of them by actually arresting and trying them for their obstruction and the rest will think twice about pulling this bullshit. Letting that woman out of jail was the first step to giving them what they want. They will continue until no one enforces civil rights for gay couples anywhere below the Mason Dixon line and the feds won't bother to step in. It was a bad move, a VERY bad move.
If the rest of us had to put up with ****ing asshole dumbass Bush for eight years because the SCOTUS said so, they can put up with gay marriage not affecting one iota of their daily lives, except for their obsessive hatred for gay people. Until homophobia is seen as the problem (it is), there is nothing we can do about them obsessing that somewhere, at some time, some gay person might have the right to exist without being harassed and stalked and murdered. As far as gay marriage goes, they can print more marriage licenses to make up for them using up multiple marriage licenses for the numerous multiple marriages they find so damn sacred.
I guess you can tell by this post, I'm fed up with them getting away with their bullshit. That is my one non-liberal quality; I wouldn't care if it did end up being another Waco. I don't give a shit if bigots like me or not. I just want them to move the **** out of the way so I can have my civil rights if the government decides to let me have more civil rights. Hint: I would like to not be fired from my job for being gay and other rights we don't have yet too.
The feds need to enforce the laws in areas where people are so routinely bigoted and have always gotten away with it and caused trouble any time civil rights are given to another group of people who should have had them to begin with. Letting these hate groups get away with obstructing justice is no way to run a country. They had better be glad I am not in charge. Waco would be a wet dream to them. They would like something as mild as Waco happening to them if they don't follow the damn laws, and I wouldn't shed a single tear for any of them. They have raped and beaten the pity and compassion out of this gay women from the south. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.
Dawson Leery (12,774 posts)
60. Does another Waco have to occur?
It might have to. These hardliners cannot be allowed to use violence to get their way.
What will stop them from harassing minorities at the voting booths? What will stop them from harassing gay couples, non Christians, Athiests, Immigrants?
The American far right thinks of the Europeans as being soft. I assure them, the French would not allow some skinheads to get way with something like this. If some far right skinheads decided to undermine the authority of the elected government, the French government would unleash much worse than Waco on their asses.
The sovereign citizens/oathkeepers must feel the heat that was felt over Dresden in 1944.
These spoiled thugs have been appeased since 1865. It MUST STOP!
Pot meet kettle, Last I checked, the democrats were the party responsible for the KKK, They were the party responsible for the Jim Crow laws, and THEY were responsible for 'seperate but equal'.
So the heat that was felt over Dresden, eh? You're talking about firebombing AMERICAN cities idiot. Something we didn't even do in the 'illegal war' you idiots keep harping on about. If it wasn't done in Iraq or Afghanistan, why should we do it against our OWN CITIZENS? Oh that's right... 'Scratch a liberal, find a fascist'.
The FRENCH wouldn't allow something like this to happen?! That is the funniest joke I've heard ALL DAY!! STOP! I'M DYING HERE!!
The French have let the Muslims riot in their cities, fool. What do you think the end result was? APPEASEMENT!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/21/paris-riots-police-identity-check-muslimAs for harrassing people at the voting booth, Black panthers ring a bell?
All in all, it's a pretty ENORMOUS pile of stupid you have here DUche. And if you honestly think the US Marshals are going to bring about your 'Nacht der langen Messer' ('Night of the Long Knives' for the Deutsch impaired), I want some of what you are smoking.